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TSMC will no longer accept orders from Huawei Starting September
Starting September 14 TSMC will stop accepting orders from Chinese company Huawei, leaving it without a partner to manufacture its chips.
This is due to the United States sales restrictions prevent selling all products manufactured with US patents to Huawei. TSMC currently manufactures the full range of products for HiSilicon, Huawei's subsidiary dedicated to chip design. This includes the Kirin chips used in the company's smartphones, and the new Kunpeng SOCs for desktop computers, so Huawei will be in serious trouble losing TSMC. Reuters just confirmed this information as well.
The Chinese giant will have to find who makes these SOCs, since they are a key part of its business, and according to industry sources, it would already be talking to SMIC, a semiconductor manufacturing company that uses 100% Chinese technology. However, SMIC only makes chips at 14nm, so it's not enough for the brand's top-performing products, and they will have to continue the search. The problem is that almost all the other companies in the field use US technology, so they are not enabled to sell to Huawei, leaving it in Checkmate.
It will be interesting to see what solution Huawei finds to this problem, or if it ends up reaching an agreement with the United States to get out of this complex situation.
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#5810644 Posted on: 07/20/2020 12:06 PM
How do you slow growth of someone who has magnitude more money/resources than you do? Prevent them from using resources.
But that is temporary and shortsighted. It will force them to build more of their own.
EU is smarter. It pulls cash from each country and then uses it to make some product of some country cheaper... destroying original production in other countries that paid for it.
That's pretty stupid point of view.
How do you slow growth of someone who has magnitude more money/resources than you do? Prevent them from using resources.
But that is temporary and shortsighted. It will force them to build more of their own.
EU is smarter. It pulls cash from each country and then uses it to make some product of some country cheaper... destroying original production in other countries that paid for it.
For Russia and China Cold War NEVER ended, West finally starting to wake up and realize there is no reason with these 2 regimes
That's pretty stupid point of view.
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#5810645 Posted on: 07/20/2020 12:07 PM
Maybe TSMC will build for Intel some chips on 5-7nm tech.
Maybe TSMC will build for Intel some chips on 5-7nm tech.
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#5810656 Posted on: 07/20/2020 12:38 PM
"Free world market totally unbiased and unregulated"
What a joke.
No joke at all. If anything, they should be treated with sanctions or anything else that a "normal" dictatorship is treated. We are obviously not doing enough about that yet. As for them having more cash or being more healthy economically, that is not the case, and probably won't be for a long time still. The biggest mistake of the US was electing Trump who took back the TPP, which was meant to choke China out of the Pacific.
"Free world market totally unbiased and unregulated"
What a joke.
No joke at all. If anything, they should be treated with sanctions or anything else that a "normal" dictatorship is treated. We are obviously not doing enough about that yet. As for them having more cash or being more healthy economically, that is not the case, and probably won't be for a long time still. The biggest mistake of the US was electing Trump who took back the TPP, which was meant to choke China out of the Pacific.
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#5810658 Posted on: 07/20/2020 12:43 PM
I do not think that government that can't care less about its population would be "choked" out of anything through doing direct harm to their population.
All damage dealt to China in any way is not dealt to controlling party, but to general population.
At best, China can be insulted, because for China "face" is important.
No joke at all. If anything, they should be treated with sanctions or anything else that a "normal" dictatorship is treated. We are obviously not doing enough about that yet. As for them having more cash or being more healthy economically, that is not the case, and probably won't be for a long time still. The biggest mistake of the US was electing Trump who took back the TPP, which was meant to choke China out of the Pacific.
I do not think that government that can't care less about its population would be "choked" out of anything through doing direct harm to their population.
All damage dealt to China in any way is not dealt to controlling party, but to general population.
At best, China can be insulted, because for China "face" is important.
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Guess the filthy Commie's will need to make their own chips.
Cold War still going apparently.
For Russia and China Cold War NEVER ended, West finally starting to wake up and realize there is no reason with these 2 regimes