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The Witcher 3 - GTX 780Ti Could Push 35-45 FPS At Max?
If it is up to Gametechs claims then The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt will be a harsh on the GPU title, so much that One 550 USD GTX 780 Ti already has a hard time to keep up with the game engibe, under the condition that higher levels of AA are enabled. The website mentions that the PC version runs HQ and 8xMSAA at 35-45fps on a GTX 780Ti at 1080p.
Naturally, a single 780Ti is able to hit the 60fps sweet spot in its current form provided MSAA is lowered. Moreover, it is said that the PS4 version will run at 900p/30fps while the Xbox One version will run at 720p/30fps. What's also interesting is that the console versions of the game will meet the minimum graphics settings of the PC version. Gametech claimed that The Witcher 3 on consoles will look similar to The Witcher 2.
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#4800822 Posted on: 04/14/2014 07:15 PM
But this is what amazes me is... They haven't even tried? Surely it's a matter of software? I remember when I had my Geforce 3 and tried AA for the first time BANG crippled, and since then have never used. And don't see the point adding it when most cannot use it. It's pointless hogging hardware or software on a graphics card.
While I like the idea and personally think this should happen to, it is comparing apples to oranges. Physics is a completely separate set of calculations that has nothing to do with visuals; representing physics through visuals is an entirely separate process. AA is a visual process, and PROPER AA needs to know the geometry of the objects being displayed, otherwise there isn't much difference between AA and just simply blurring the image. I figure dedicating a GPU to AA is like putting a motor in a trailer attached to your car - sure the extra power might be handy but getting to operate at the same speed as the car (and knowing when to stop) isn't that easy.
But this is what amazes me is... They haven't even tried? Surely it's a matter of software? I remember when I had my Geforce 3 and tried AA for the first time BANG crippled, and since then have never used. And don't see the point adding it when most cannot use it. It's pointless hogging hardware or software on a graphics card.
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#4800824 Posted on: 04/14/2014 07:26 PM
I agree - something should have been done about it a long time ago. They could have at the very least included some instruction set dedicated to AA. The stupid thing is by the time there is a hardware solution to AA, UHD screens will obsolete the need of AA. With enough pixel density, you don't really need to smooth the edges anymore. I get the impression that raising the screen resolution has a much lesser effect on performance than AA. In other words, enabling AA at 720p could have roughly the same visual smoothness as 1080p with no AA, but it wouldn't surprise me if AA at 720p would perform slower. At the very least, an easy fix to a higher resolution is more VRAM and better bandwidth, but I do realize it isn't quite that simple. AA, to my knowledge, doesn't really have a straight-forward hardware solution.
But this is what amazes me is... They haven't even tried? Surely it's a matter of software? I remember when I had my Geforce 3 and tried AA for the first time BANG crippled, and since then have never used. And don't see the point adding it when most cannot use it. It's pointless hogging hardware or software on a graphics card.
I agree - something should have been done about it a long time ago. They could have at the very least included some instruction set dedicated to AA. The stupid thing is by the time there is a hardware solution to AA, UHD screens will obsolete the need of AA. With enough pixel density, you don't really need to smooth the edges anymore. I get the impression that raising the screen resolution has a much lesser effect on performance than AA. In other words, enabling AA at 720p could have roughly the same visual smoothness as 1080p with no AA, but it wouldn't surprise me if AA at 720p would perform slower. At the very least, an easy fix to a higher resolution is more VRAM and better bandwidth, but I do realize it isn't quite that simple. AA, to my knowledge, doesn't really have a straight-forward hardware solution.
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#4800833 Posted on: 04/14/2014 07:51 PM
As many others have said, I also hardly ever go above 2x MSAA unless the game can easily handle higher (like CS:GO where I can go to 16xQCSAA no problem). There just doesn't seem to be much of a difference between 2x and higher settings to make the performance hit worth it.
It's pretty easy to claim a game will cripple GPUs when you turn on 8x MSAA or some form of SSAA.
As many others have said, I also hardly ever go above 2x MSAA unless the game can easily handle higher (like CS:GO where I can go to 16xQCSAA no problem). There just doesn't seem to be much of a difference between 2x and higher settings to make the performance hit worth it.
It's pretty easy to claim a game will cripple GPUs when you turn on 8x MSAA or some form of SSAA.
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#4800858 Posted on: 04/14/2014 08:42 PM
I paid 500$/780ti open box from craigslist. beat that
and oh yeah! +1 to boycott nvidia games lolol
My 780ti were cheaper than the 290x when I bought them. A big LOL boycotting an nvidia game.
I paid 500$/780ti open box from craigslist. beat that
and oh yeah! +1 to boycott nvidia games lolol
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#4800870 Posted on: 04/14/2014 09:14 PM
So ~40fps @ 1080p @ 8xmsaa, i bet it will run at 60fps+ with 2xmsaa or postAA, rest maxed.
So ~40fps @ 1080p @ 8xmsaa, i bet it will run at 60fps+ with 2xmsaa or postAA, rest maxed.
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#4800875 Posted on: 04/14/2014 09:46 PM
lol yep.
lol yep.
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#4800879 Posted on: 04/14/2014 09:54 PM
MSAA is the most basic AA there is, but not the oldest. You're probably thinking of FXAA or MLAA, those can be blurry, especially MLAA.
If you want sharp images SSAA (super sampling) is the only way to go, it's probably the oldest method and the most taxing of them all. Most systems don't have enough power to run modern games which a high level of SSAA.
Am I the only one around here who never uses AA? I hate how blurry it makes everything look. Same goes for motion blur, ugh! MSAA all the way 
MSAA is the most basic AA there is, but not the oldest. You're probably thinking of FXAA or MLAA, those can be blurry, especially MLAA.
If you want sharp images SSAA (super sampling) is the only way to go, it's probably the oldest method and the most taxing of them all. Most systems don't have enough power to run modern games which a high level of SSAA.
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#4800881 Posted on: 04/14/2014 09:58 PM
yep, in fact, TW2 maxed out runs worse than this article suggests. Bring it on, I'm ready (not a fan of TW2 if I'm honest, the original was much better imo).
Bit of a non-story really. This is just the same as when Witcher 2 was released with the uber sampling option.
yep, in fact, TW2 maxed out runs worse than this article suggests. Bring it on, I'm ready (not a fan of TW2 if I'm honest, the original was much better imo).
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#4800885 Posted on: 04/14/2014 10:14 PM
If it is up to Gametech, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is a very challenging title; a title that a sole GTX 780Ti struggles to run when higher levels of AA are enabled. The gaming website noted, the PC ver...
The Witcher 3 - GTX 780Ti Could Push 35-45 FPS At Max?
8x AA would do that to alot games.
If it is up to Gametech, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt is a very challenging title; a title that a sole GTX 780Ti struggles to run when higher levels of AA are enabled. The gaming website noted, the PC ver...
The Witcher 3 - GTX 780Ti Could Push 35-45 FPS At Max?
8x AA would do that to alot games.
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#4800886 Posted on: 04/14/2014 10:21 PM
I paid 500$/780ti open box from craigslist. beat that
and oh yeah! +1 to boycott nvidia games lolol
tbh I probably wouln`t of taken a chance from craigslist. good you got a good 1 for 500
I paid 500$/780ti open box from craigslist. beat that
and oh yeah! +1 to boycott nvidia games lolol
tbh I probably wouln`t of taken a chance from craigslist. good you got a good 1 for 500
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#4800894 Posted on: 04/14/2014 10:30 PM
No, thanks. Can't they create games instead that run with an enjoyable performance? If I want slideshows, I'll look at Google Images.
Game devs seem to miss the point of high-end hardware. It's not there in order to raise a game's performance slightly above "barely acceptable." It's there to get enough performance for your 144Hz monitor, your multi-monitor "eyefinity" or whatever setup, etc.
And why are people saying "this game has the best graphics ever?" If the graphics run like crap, guess what, they're bad. Image quality is only one aspect of good graphics. The other is fluidity. If either of those is crap, then the overall result is crap too. Image quality without fluidity is only important for static images.
Unless they actually intend to make sales 4 years from now, since that's the timeframe for the hardware to catch up to this stuff. But by then, the game won't be profitable anymore to begin with.
The Witcher and Crysis - wasting otherwise good PC firepower on unoptimized crap.
I get what you mean but youve worded it in a weird way. Hence the responses from those above.
The problems is not with the devs. Its the Hardware manufactures.
No, thanks. Can't they create games instead that run with an enjoyable performance? If I want slideshows, I'll look at Google Images.
Game devs seem to miss the point of high-end hardware. It's not there in order to raise a game's performance slightly above "barely acceptable." It's there to get enough performance for your 144Hz monitor, your multi-monitor "eyefinity" or whatever setup, etc.
And why are people saying "this game has the best graphics ever?" If the graphics run like crap, guess what, they're bad. Image quality is only one aspect of good graphics. The other is fluidity. If either of those is crap, then the overall result is crap too. Image quality without fluidity is only important for static images.
Unless they actually intend to make sales 4 years from now, since that's the timeframe for the hardware to catch up to this stuff. But by then, the game won't be profitable anymore to begin with.
The Witcher and Crysis - wasting otherwise good PC firepower on unoptimized crap.
I get what you mean but youve worded it in a weird way. Hence the responses from those above.
The problems is not with the devs. Its the Hardware manufactures.
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#4800899 Posted on: 04/14/2014 10:35 PM
MSAA is the most basic AA there is, but not the oldest. You're probably thinking of FXAA or MLAA, those can be blurry, especially MLAA.
If you want sharp images SSAA (super sampling) is the only way to go, it's probably the oldest method and the most taxing of them all. Most systems don't have enough power to run modern games which a high level of SSAA.
I remember applying Sparsegrid super sampling for the first time on far cry 2, via a post from someone on this here forum.
Id only just managed to get fc to playable fps with the so called highend gtx280. SGSS destroyed my fps but by the great talos did it look amazing. So stopped playing and didnt resume until i got my new (at the time) system.
MSAA is the most basic AA there is, but not the oldest. You're probably thinking of FXAA or MLAA, those can be blurry, especially MLAA.
If you want sharp images SSAA (super sampling) is the only way to go, it's probably the oldest method and the most taxing of them all. Most systems don't have enough power to run modern games which a high level of SSAA.
I remember applying Sparsegrid super sampling for the first time on far cry 2, via a post from someone on this here forum.
Id only just managed to get fc to playable fps with the so called highend gtx280. SGSS destroyed my fps but by the great talos did it look amazing. So stopped playing and didnt resume until i got my new (at the time) system.
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#4800907 Posted on: 04/14/2014 10:52 PM
I like how the article says 1 $550 USD gtx 780ti can't run it. You tell me where you've seen a ti for $550 usd cause I haven't seen any under $700.
I like how the article says 1 $550 USD gtx 780ti can't run it. You tell me where you've seen a ti for $550 usd cause I haven't seen any under $700.
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#4800924 Posted on: 04/14/2014 11:29 PM
I paid 500$/780ti open box from craigslist. beat that
and oh yeah! +1 to boycott nvidia games lolol
I got both my 780 Ti Classifieds for free. Beat that sucka
I paid 500$/780ti open box from craigslist. beat that
and oh yeah! +1 to boycott nvidia games lolol
I got both my 780 Ti Classifieds for free. Beat that sucka
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What's bugging me with AA is people complain about it, but yet they still haven't in my opinion allowed for two cards to deal with this?
I have a 660ti old a bit slow but games today are a joke in terms of graphical progression, and there is no need for me to upgrade to upscaled console games. But yet why can't I use my old 560 Ti to do the work of AA and let my 660Ti do everything else? Or is this to easy? You can do it with a physX card and what ever you are using why not do the same with AA?
While I like the idea and personally think this should happen to, it is comparing apples to oranges. Physics is a completely separate set of calculations that has nothing to do with visuals; representing physics through visuals is an entirely separate process. AA is a visual process, and PROPER AA needs to know the geometry of the objects being displayed, otherwise there isn't much difference between AA and just simply blurring the image. I figure dedicating a GPU to AA is like putting a motor in a trailer attached to your car - sure the extra power might be handy but getting to operate at the same speed as the car (and knowing when to stop) isn't that easy.