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To be released Core i5-12400F Offers Ryzen 5 5600X Performance for roughly 200 USD
Intel Core i5 12400F spotted in benchmarks, could offer Ryzen 5 5600X performance at that sub 200 USD marker. i5-12400F will be based on just six cores performance cores (and threads).
That means there are no energy cores. Single-core and multi-core clock rates of the processor are 4.4 and 3.4 GHz, respectively, at power levels 2 and 1 (PL2), according to the processor's specifications. In terms of power consumption, the chip has a TDP/PL1 of 65W and power consumption (PL2) of 117 W.
Comptoir Hardware posted some results and is seems the processor is able to outperform the Ryzen 5 5600X with gaming scores on a constant basis. These tests were carried out on Windows 11 with an undisclosed amount of DDR5 RAM and an AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT graphics processor.
The i5-12400F was spotted in Canada for 249 CAD (200 USD), and if accurate that makes this a really value processor considering the 279 USD price tag of the Ryzen 5 5600X. In January, the Intel Core i5-12400F processor is expected to be unveiled at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES). See below the benchmark results, courtesy of Comptoir Hardware.
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#5962591 Posted on: 11/08/2021 02:46 PM
Absolutely nothing? Such a hyperbole. By your logic 2080Ti is useless now that 3090 is out.
Sure, but we live in the here and now, and here and now AMD has absolutely nothing to offer PC gamers anymore. They're soundly beaten across the entire product line. By the time Zen4 launches, Intel will have Raptor Lake, so who knows how that will pan out.
Absolutely nothing? Such a hyperbole. By your logic 2080Ti is useless now that 3090 is out.
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#5962592 Posted on: 11/08/2021 02:51 PM
My only agenda is performance. For people upgrading today, Intel is the obvious choice. Now, even if Zen3D delivers a 20% increase across the board - something I doubt it will - that would only mean it still only catches up to ADL. Four months later. In a dead-end socket, with Zen4 and Raptor Lake looming - by then - just six months away.
Of course not. It offers roughly the same performance the 3070 does. If it can be bought cheaper than a 3070 then it's still relevant. Are the Zen3 parts cheaper and offering the same performance ADL is? Oh.
I'm talking about buying these parts now, not whether they are still good performers for people who bought them a year ago. I'm very happy with my 5900X and wouldn't consider upgrading to a 12700K or a 12900K. That would be absurd. But for new system builders, especially gamers - AMD is now largely irrelevant, unless they drastically slash prices.
My only agenda is performance. For people upgrading today, Intel is the obvious choice. Now, even if Zen3D delivers a 20% increase across the board - something I doubt it will - that would only mean it still only catches up to ADL. Four months later. In a dead-end socket, with Zen4 and Raptor Lake looming - by then - just six months away.
Absolutely nothing? Such a hyperbole. By your logic 2080Ti is useless now that 3090 is out.
Of course not. It offers roughly the same performance the 3070 does. If it can be bought cheaper than a 3070 then it's still relevant. Are the Zen3 parts cheaper and offering the same performance ADL is? Oh.
I'm talking about buying these parts now, not whether they are still good performers for people who bought them a year ago. I'm very happy with my 5900X and wouldn't consider upgrading to a 12700K or a 12900K. That would be absurd. But for new system builders, especially gamers - AMD is now largely irrelevant, unless they drastically slash prices.
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#5962605 Posted on: 11/08/2021 03:41 PM
3dcetner aggregate results are in.
Applications: 27 websites with 2990 individual tests
Gaming: 18 websites with 1250 individual tests
3dcetner aggregate results are in.
Applications: 27 websites with 2990 individual tests
Gaming: 18 websites with 1250 individual tests
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#5962629 Posted on: 11/08/2021 04:31 PM
Of course not. It offers roughly the same performance the 3070 does. If it can be bought cheaper than a 3070 then it's still relevant. Are the Zen3 parts cheaper and offering the same performance ADL is? Oh.
I'm talking about buying these parts now, not whether they are still good performers for people who bought them a year ago. I'm very happy with my 5900X and wouldn't consider upgrading to a 12700K or a 12900K. That would be absurd. But for new system builders, especially gamers - AMD is now largely irrelevant, unless they drastically slash prices.
Don't say "absolutely nothing" if you need to explain anything. Do gamers actually see those differences unless they have a really strong GPU? Most gamers don't have one, especially with the current insane prices. Even if the GPU prices were normal, most gamers would have a mainstream graphics card (which is why it's called mainstream).
Right now it's impossible to build a proper Alder Lake system, at least over here, because DDR5 is nowhere to be found. Maybe a month from now things will be different, maybe not. Even then the RAM situation can hamper's Intel's cost performance edge. The CPU alone won't help you much, and I don't see much point in building an advanced, cutting-edge system by using old parts below the par, relying on backward compatability. You are right about the prices, though, but only if you consider the whole system price. You can't just install an Alder Lake CPU on an older Intel mobo. Of course marketing wise the current situation really hurts AMD, so they need to cut prices significantly.
It's actually quite remarkable that Zen3 can still compete as much as it can despite being so old. It's actually older than Intel 11th gen. I guess the relevant question is why isn't AMD already releasing a new product? Most likely because of the chip manufacturing shortage situation, which doesn't affect Intel with its own fabs. Ironically enough Intel deciding to use TSMC for the GPU fabrication will also hurt AMD. But of course it was AMD's own fault to go fabless.
Of course not. It offers roughly the same performance the 3070 does. If it can be bought cheaper than a 3070 then it's still relevant. Are the Zen3 parts cheaper and offering the same performance ADL is? Oh.
I'm talking about buying these parts now, not whether they are still good performers for people who bought them a year ago. I'm very happy with my 5900X and wouldn't consider upgrading to a 12700K or a 12900K. That would be absurd. But for new system builders, especially gamers - AMD is now largely irrelevant, unless they drastically slash prices.
Don't say "absolutely nothing" if you need to explain anything. Do gamers actually see those differences unless they have a really strong GPU? Most gamers don't have one, especially with the current insane prices. Even if the GPU prices were normal, most gamers would have a mainstream graphics card (which is why it's called mainstream).
Right now it's impossible to build a proper Alder Lake system, at least over here, because DDR5 is nowhere to be found. Maybe a month from now things will be different, maybe not. Even then the RAM situation can hamper's Intel's cost performance edge. The CPU alone won't help you much, and I don't see much point in building an advanced, cutting-edge system by using old parts below the par, relying on backward compatability. You are right about the prices, though, but only if you consider the whole system price. You can't just install an Alder Lake CPU on an older Intel mobo. Of course marketing wise the current situation really hurts AMD, so they need to cut prices significantly.
It's actually quite remarkable that Zen3 can still compete as much as it can despite being so old. It's actually older than Intel 11th gen. I guess the relevant question is why isn't AMD already releasing a new product? Most likely because of the chip manufacturing shortage situation, which doesn't affect Intel with its own fabs. Ironically enough Intel deciding to use TSMC for the GPU fabrication will also hurt AMD. But of course it was AMD's own fault to go fabless.
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The worst thing about Alder Lake is how it's tricked us into considering CPU-Z scores and Geekbench as relevant, let alone dependable, metrics.