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Tech preview: AMD Ryzen 3000 - Incl Ryzen 9 3950X (16-core)
Ryzen Gen 3 aka Ryzen 3000 has received new announcements. You might have watched the live-stream, well that or you were asleep as that was nighttime in the EU, but in this preview article a deeper overview of what to expect Ryzen 3000 aka Zen2 wise including architecture details.
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#5679085 Posted on: 06/11/2019 12:51 AM
I own the ryzen 1700 with a 1070 ftw I cant wait to get the 3600 as to the 8c16t which I almost never use all of it it's going to be a great buy for alot of people, even when you pair it with a b350 and up.I still wonder why Intel has yet to do this type tree line with cpus.
I own the ryzen 1700 with a 1070 ftw I cant wait to get the 3600 as to the 8c16t which I almost never use all of it it's going to be a great buy for alot of people, even when you pair it with a b350 and up.I still wonder why Intel has yet to do this type tree line with cpus.
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#5679090 Posted on: 06/11/2019 12:57 AM
1700 here too, its all down to what we use our rigs for, cuz ill be grabbing the 3950x the moment it hits shelves.
I own the ryzen 1700 with a 1070 ftw I cant wait to get the 3600 as to the 8c16t which I almost never use all of it it's going to be a great buy for alot of people, even when you pair it with a b350 and up.I still wonder why Intel has yet to do this type tree line with cpus.
1700 here too, its all down to what we use our rigs for, cuz ill be grabbing the 3950x the moment it hits shelves.
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#5679095 Posted on: 06/11/2019 01:08 AM
Hope higher quality overview pictures will go up soon.
Hope higher quality overview pictures will go up soon.
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#5679105 Posted on: 06/11/2019 01:29 AM
Regarding the 3950X... since AMD will be selling it with a cooler, that component has to figure into the guaranteed boost. Coolers can't be binned like silicon, especially since the interface quality will be uncontrolled.
Meaning that AMD will be forced to leave performance on the table, as margin.
Meaning that premium cooling could very well enable PBO / XFR to push the boost significantly higher.
I'll bet that with top air cooling most 3950X will boost at least 100 MHz higher. And on water, well, maybe 5.0GHz. Unless they lock it at 4.70GHz; that would be unfortunate and IMHO not in their best interests overall.
Personally I'd rather they omitted the cooler from the top chips, for exactly this reason. I'll hate to throw it away...
Regarding the 3950X... since AMD will be selling it with a cooler, that component has to figure into the guaranteed boost. Coolers can't be binned like silicon, especially since the interface quality will be uncontrolled.
Meaning that AMD will be forced to leave performance on the table, as margin.
Meaning that premium cooling could very well enable PBO / XFR to push the boost significantly higher.
I'll bet that with top air cooling most 3950X will boost at least 100 MHz higher. And on water, well, maybe 5.0GHz. Unless they lock it at 4.70GHz; that would be unfortunate and IMHO not in their best interests overall.
Personally I'd rather they omitted the cooler from the top chips, for exactly this reason. I'll hate to throw it away...
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#5679107 Posted on: 06/11/2019 01:33 AM
So there will be a 16 core.... really nice, although not as cheap as the leaks, wondering what will TR bring to the table.
So there will be a 16 core.... really nice, although not as cheap as the leaks, wondering what will TR bring to the table.
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#5679137 Posted on: 06/11/2019 03:12 AM
That may Windows update sounds great. It sucks that it has been this long, but I guess Microsoft could no longer ignore Ryzen owners
That may Windows update sounds great. It sucks that it has been this long, but I guess Microsoft could no longer ignore Ryzen owners
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#5679145 Posted on: 06/11/2019 03:55 AM
3950X is pricer than I had expected. Still good value though.
3950X is pricer than I had expected. Still good value though.
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#5679183 Posted on: 06/11/2019 05:27 AM
Amd are just like the sunshine after the storm. What a company, back from the dead , but no Zombies here
Amd and I go back so far
Amd are just like the sunshine after the storm. What a company, back from the dead , but no Zombies here
Amd and I go back so far
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#5679188 Posted on: 06/11/2019 05:57 AM
Wow so now PBO can also raise the maximum frequency.
Also interesting that the X570 chipset is a 14nm version of the 12nm IO die on the cpu.
Wow so now PBO can also raise the maximum frequency.
Also interesting that the X570 chipset is a 14nm version of the 12nm IO die on the cpu.
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#5679189 Posted on: 06/11/2019 05:59 AM
Need to decide on, do i get the 3700X or the 3900X, guess i have something to buy with my redundancy money. Also noticed that they have been working with Microsoft to optimise CCX utilisation. DO i need 12 cores, not really but it does have higher boost frequencies for games and sure hope 2 or more cores can hit them 1 in each CCX.
Need to decide on, do i get the 3700X or the 3900X, guess i have something to buy with my redundancy money. Also noticed that they have been working with Microsoft to optimise CCX utilisation. DO i need 12 cores, not really but it does have higher boost frequencies for games and sure hope 2 or more cores can hit them 1 in each CCX.
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#5679206 Posted on: 06/11/2019 07:41 AM
Hello @Hilbert Hagedoorn, two little typos you may want to fix... mayb not
First page, first paragraph... " It is ow the year 2019 and where AMD was close "
5th page, bottom, "depending on your looing performance can add 200".
Hello @Hilbert Hagedoorn, two little typos you may want to fix... mayb not
First page, first paragraph... " It is ow the year 2019 and where AMD was close "
5th page, bottom, "depending on your looing performance can add 200".
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#5679217 Posted on: 06/11/2019 08:14 AM
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#5679220 Posted on: 06/11/2019 08:26 AM
Threadripper 16 core 1950x is 590$ here in Norway now.
Threadripper 16 core 1950x is 590$ here in Norway now.
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#5679223 Posted on: 06/11/2019 08:31 AM
Looking forward to it.
On the tweaking front you are going to notice improved overclocking options, both windows software based as well as the BIOS, this, of course, we'll detail in-depth in our reviews.
Looking forward to it.
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everybody is in the livestream thread but im just gonna say that 3600 is a hell of a good deal & leave it at that