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System requirements for Microsoft Windows 11 remain unchanged
Microsoft has reconfirmed that users with outdated systems will not be able to upgrade to the new Windows version due to security reasons, among other things.
The AMD Ryzen 2000 series and Intel's 8000 series CPUs are supported (or newer). TMP 2.0 is also required. The high security requirements, according to Microsoft CEO David Weston, should result in a much more secure system.
“We know it sucks that some aren't going to be eligible for Windows 11, but the great thing to remember is the reason we're doing [this] is to keep devices more productive and [ensure that they have] security than ever before so they can stay protected in this new workforce,”
“Group policy will not enable you to get around the hardware enforcement for Windows 11. We will block you from upgrading your device to an unsupported state since we really want to make sure that your devices stay supported and secure,”
Microsoft announced shortly after the release of the system requirements that it is still reviewing the possibility of supporting Ryzen and Intel 7000 processors from the first generation. No new information has been provided in this area by the developer.
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#5932745 Posted on: 07/27/2021 03:19 PM
For now the Ryzen 1000 AF are eligible...
Logical as they are Ryzen 2000, but comming from M$ it could have been logical to block them too ( so you could get a crap Surface from them lol ).
I think they haven't understand why TPM and secure boot were a fail on Windows 10 for main consumer: Most of them live with below 1000 Euro by month, and just cannot get a bran new PC when M$ want it (lot of people still use 775 or AM3 machine)...
The good point is that they will think "other OS"... when you can't change your old hardware, sometime linux can save your digital life
For now the Ryzen 1000 AF are eligible...
Logical as they are Ryzen 2000, but comming from M$ it could have been logical to block them too ( so you could get a crap Surface from them lol ).
I think they haven't understand why TPM and secure boot were a fail on Windows 10 for main consumer: Most of them live with below 1000 Euro by month, and just cannot get a bran new PC when M$ want it (lot of people still use 775 or AM3 machine)...
The good point is that they will think "other OS"... when you can't change your old hardware, sometime linux can save your digital life
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#5932751 Posted on: 07/27/2021 03:26 PM
Sometimes, you have to let go of the old kit. Heck, Apple's done it and no-one barely batted an eyelid.
P.s. The post above mine is a bit insane.
Yes and No, as Apple really help the transition, when M$ doesn't care.
Since i have my M1 i am really surprised about Apple: Yes it is expensive for what you get, but the company really help user to pass from X86 to M1, i wasn't exepted that from them.
Sometimes, you have to let go of the old kit. Heck, Apple's done it and no-one barely batted an eyelid.
P.s. The post above mine is a bit insane.
Yes and No, as Apple really help the transition, when M$ doesn't care.
Since i have my M1 i am really surprised about Apple: Yes it is expensive for what you get, but the company really help user to pass from X86 to M1, i wasn't exepted that from them.
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#5932770 Posted on: 07/27/2021 04:50 PM
Also convenient for MS that upgraded systems require new licenses therefore will generate big profit gains from 11.
Also convenient for MS that upgraded systems require new licenses therefore will generate big profit gains from 11.
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#5932771 Posted on: 07/27/2021 04:53 PM
The days of people being able to do what we want on our pc's and also be part of normal society are numbered.
Wrong, but anyway, there are other OS options including one from MS.
Most of them live with below 1000 Euro by month, and just cannot get a brand new PC
So you really think that those consumers need Windows 11 to get on with their lives?
(lot of people still use 775 or AM3 machine)
Is anyone even using Windows 10 on such ancient hardware?
A lot of people are disillusioned if they think that they really need the latest OS from Microsoft to continue with what they do on their PC's.
The days of people being able to do what we want on our pc's and also be part of normal society are numbered.
Wrong, but anyway, there are other OS options including one from MS.
Most of them live with below 1000 Euro by month, and just cannot get a brand new PC
So you really think that those consumers need Windows 11 to get on with their lives?
(lot of people still use 775 or AM3 machine)
Is anyone even using Windows 10 on such ancient hardware?
A lot of people are disillusioned if they think that they really need the latest OS from Microsoft to continue with what they do on their PC's.
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So Intel 7gen and first gen ryzen are still not supported?