Steam Top Ten Selling PC games August 16th 2016

#5321918 Posted on: 08/16/2016 04:08 PM

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You're giving the developers money for a product that is not finished yet. While this doesn't sound particularly bad at first glance, you're reinforcing a trend where hype is more important than a polished product.

Refunds help against this, yes, but it encourages big post-release patches, which again isn't a good thing. The studio sees the refunds going through and starts working on the game again. IF the refunds come through. In many cases the game isn't broken enough to receive massive amounts of refunds, but still broken when it could've been better.
When I buy a game at launch day I expect it to be complete and not download a huge patch the next day.

Examples are No Man's Sky, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5, Watch_dogs, AC:U and dozens of others especially coming from Ubisoft.

I ain't saying Square Enix in particular are scummy devs, far from it actually. They've released good and finished games but I wouldn't give them money on the 'promise' of a good game. Even if chances are that Deus Ex will be pretty damn good.

Even though I understand your point, I don't buy many games on release, but the ones I do, I tend to preorder. And as it happens pretty much every game I preordered ended up as a game that I really liked and played a lot. I have to yet ask for a refund.

I preorderd the Collector's Edition of DX:HR and I finished it like 5-6 times.

I get your way of thinking, and it applies to many games out there (from the games you listed for example, I only got those when they were on sale, 1 year after release - my rule with Ubisoft games, with Division being an exception. No Man's Sky was a fail for me from the first video I saw of it, so this release was simply a confirmation), but in the DX I simply have a good feeling based on past experience and what I've seen so far from the upcoming game.

#5321934 Posted on: 08/16/2016 04:33 PM

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Nothing wrong with preorders or day 1 patches.

#5321959 Posted on: 08/16/2016 05:10 PM

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Are you? You're painting every developer with the same brush assuming that because Warner Brothers did it with Arkham and Ubisoft does it with every game they release that it is something that ever developer does.

Pre orders are nothing I was preordering games from a game shop two and a half decades ago and I can tell you right here and right now pre ordering games today is miles better than it ever was.

In the past the game you got was the game you got, no day one patches, in fact no patches at all. If the game was trash then it was never going to get better end of on top of that most retailers would not allow you to refund the game if you had opened the box. So right off the bat you have not only the chance now that your game will get improvements (and in most cases quite quickly) you also have the chance to refund the game if it is well and truly broken. You can also add that with the internet you also have access to a soapbox from which you can tell the world just how good or bad the game is and if events of late have proven this is a soap box that a lot of developers have no choice but to listen too.

Pre order away folks, believe me you don't get much better than you do currently.

#5321997 Posted on: 08/16/2016 06:21 PM

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People, please stop preordering games.. Nothing good ever comes out of it.

I understand the temptation, I'm a huge ****ing DX fanboy but just don't.

I got Batman AK and the season pass all for under £10 after the backlash, so everybody keep pre-ordering and buying before the reviews are out, i love me a good bargain.

#5322009 Posted on: 08/16/2016 06:39 PM

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Well now that No Man's Sky works for me, holy guacamole...

It even works on my XPS laptop with only 4gb of ram lol.