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Steam Hardware Survey Shows Impressive gains for AMD
There are some interesting movements to see in the Steam hardware survey, AMD is on the move with Ryzen, as numbers are rising in statistically significant numbers. A bit expected as recent earnings indicated already that their sales are on the rise.
The Steam hardware survey shows all relevant technical data from DX adoption to GPU but also market share of processors. The numbers are big, and for anything to move statistical, numbers need to be even bigger.
When you compare the data with a couple of months ago, AMD has risen in double numbers on the Windows platform, AMD is now touching nearly 16% market share in April, that was a 8% back in January. This new data all is pretty much excluding the new Ryzen 2000 release. It is good to see AMD take back what was once theirs.
Also interesting is the GPU side of things, here AMD gained share as well. It moved from nearly 11% upwards to 15%. Nvidia drops a bit, but that likely this all is related to GPU shortages due to the crypto mining craze in the past half year.
On that topic, the Steam numbers obviously only reflect the PC gaming side of sales and market share. How the dynamic is with cryptoming sales in effect, we do not know.
The survey also shows a strong increase in the Windows 10 64-bit adoption rate, 53% of the users has got it installed. Most people still have a four-core processor, however, that is on the decline by 8% in just one month. The majority of people have a GeForce GTX 1060 is dedicated graphics card and 61% of the Steam'ers game at a resolution of 1920x1080.
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#5543824 Posted on: 05/04/2018 02:41 PM
I worry this is just a blip, that or we have thousands of users just switch to AMD. Which would be nice, like other said it would be nice for the market to be closer together to support more competition and push technology forward. But the original Ryzen nor did the millions of discounts it went on push it this far, so im rather curious to know why the huge leap.
Ryzen+ is great mind you, maybe there is hope for AMD afterall! Now make amazing GPU's again
I worry this is just a blip, that or we have thousands of users just switch to AMD. Which would be nice, like other said it would be nice for the market to be closer together to support more competition and push technology forward. But the original Ryzen nor did the millions of discounts it went on push it this far, so im rather curious to know why the huge leap.
Ryzen+ is great mind you, maybe there is hope for AMD afterall! Now make amazing GPU's again
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#5543854 Posted on: 05/04/2018 04:17 PM
You guys gotta remember that this steam survey is pretty much BS.
They randomly survey people at completely and totally random times.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but to my knowledge, people only get the survey when they first log in. So for those who keep their PC logged in 24/7 and delay restarting Steam, they're less likely to get the survey than someone who signs in every day.
As for me, I don't sign in as often as I used to, but I haven't seen the survey in maybe 2 years. Since then, there have been times I got the survey several times in a single year.
There's no way to have accurate information on the steam hardware survey when they are not sending out a survey request to everyone at least once a year.
There's no way to know if who they surveyed were ryzen customers who increased the percentage, or they just happened to randomly survey a bunch of AMD systems, not just ryzen.
As BlackZero said, the pool size is large enough where this shouldn't be an issue, though there are definitely caveats. China has a very heavy impact on these results, and so whatever is available/affordable in their market affects the results the most. This also affects operating systems. For example, once PUBG was released, the Mac and Linux marketshares have consistently gone down, because it's a Windows-only game. So, there are definitely times where these surveys may have skewed results.
You guys gotta remember that this steam survey is pretty much BS.
They randomly survey people at completely and totally random times.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but to my knowledge, people only get the survey when they first log in. So for those who keep their PC logged in 24/7 and delay restarting Steam, they're less likely to get the survey than someone who signs in every day.
As for me, I don't sign in as often as I used to, but I haven't seen the survey in maybe 2 years. Since then, there have been times I got the survey several times in a single year.
There's no way to have accurate information on the steam hardware survey when they are not sending out a survey request to everyone at least once a year.
There's no way to know if who they surveyed were ryzen customers who increased the percentage, or they just happened to randomly survey a bunch of AMD systems, not just ryzen.
As BlackZero said, the pool size is large enough where this shouldn't be an issue, though there are definitely caveats. China has a very heavy impact on these results, and so whatever is available/affordable in their market affects the results the most. This also affects operating systems. For example, once PUBG was released, the Mac and Linux marketshares have consistently gone down, because it's a Windows-only game. So, there are definitely times where these surveys may have skewed results.
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#5543956 Posted on: 05/04/2018 08:18 PM
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but to my knowledge, people only get the survey when they first log in.
I don't keep any system logged in 24/7, they also do not get used on a daily bases (well, one of them has, and that's the one that hasn't been surveyed in 3 years).
And again, one of them has never, ever been surveyed.
As BlackZero said, the pool size is large enough where this shouldn't be an issue,
Because not knowing my computer, my wifes computer, or my wifes cousins computer has ryzen systems in it somehow means accurate information? And if that happens to me, that somehow means that doesn't happen to a ton of other people as well, regardless of what is in their system?
The only computer that steam knows what has in it on their system would be my wifes laptop, which has an older i7 dual-core/4-thread laptop CPU, and ironically, that system they already knew about, since it had the survey shortly after we got the laptop, and then again in january.
You can't accurately know what your userbase is using if you do not scan everyone, it's literally impossible, and i don't care for this nonsense of "well, the pool is big, so it doesn't matter". Instead, you only get an incorrect, majorly wrong, "estimate", based off the randomness of who gets chosen. Since you or no one else can guarantee that for some reason the steam survey just surveyed a bunch of older AMD systems that it already knew about, all of this information means squat.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but to my knowledge, people only get the survey when they first log in.
I don't keep any system logged in 24/7, they also do not get used on a daily bases (well, one of them has, and that's the one that hasn't been surveyed in 3 years).
And again, one of them has never, ever been surveyed.
As BlackZero said, the pool size is large enough where this shouldn't be an issue,
Because not knowing my computer, my wifes computer, or my wifes cousins computer has ryzen systems in it somehow means accurate information? And if that happens to me, that somehow means that doesn't happen to a ton of other people as well, regardless of what is in their system?
The only computer that steam knows what has in it on their system would be my wifes laptop, which has an older i7 dual-core/4-thread laptop CPU, and ironically, that system they already knew about, since it had the survey shortly after we got the laptop, and then again in january.
You can't accurately know what your userbase is using if you do not scan everyone, it's literally impossible, and i don't care for this nonsense of "well, the pool is big, so it doesn't matter". Instead, you only get an incorrect, majorly wrong, "estimate", based off the randomness of who gets chosen. Since you or no one else can guarantee that for some reason the steam survey just surveyed a bunch of older AMD systems that it already knew about, all of this information means squat.
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#5543957 Posted on: 05/04/2018 08:22 PM
I don't keep any system logged in 24/7, they also do not get used on a daily bases (well, one of them has, and that's the one that hasn't been surveyed in 3 years).
And again, one of them has never, ever been surveyed.
I had a feeling that was the case, I just wanted to make the clarification, since not everyone knows how the survey works. And for the record, I too am not all that happy about how the survey is done. Valve really needs to just have a checkbox to opt into the survey (where it is un-ticked by default, since people get all whiny about automatic data collection) and everyone who signs in at least once for the month (with an up-to-date version of Steam) gets contributes to the survey.
I don't keep any system logged in 24/7, they also do not get used on a daily bases (well, one of them has, and that's the one that hasn't been surveyed in 3 years).
And again, one of them has never, ever been surveyed.
I had a feeling that was the case, I just wanted to make the clarification, since not everyone knows how the survey works. And for the record, I too am not all that happy about how the survey is done. Valve really needs to just have a checkbox to opt into the survey (where it is un-ticked by default, since people get all whiny about automatic data collection) and everyone who signs in at least once for the month (with an up-to-date version of Steam) gets contributes to the survey.
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I think it's good that AMD picks up some market share, they're doing well. Even though I'm not really impressed by the Vega at all, I have to say I like Ryzen more and more, will upgrade my HTPC to a Ryzen system in a few days.
But as much as I'd like to see only this happening, I too have to spoil your fun somewhat, because steam changed the way it does the survey, they tried to block out the systems that are run in internet cafes, (crypto) farming clusters, and bot PC clusters. Not sure how they did it, but the way it looks it's hard to say what that measure by steam really did change in terms of true, home user market share in both graphics and CPUs.