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Star Citizen Employees Speak Out on Project Woes - Crash and Burn ?
The Escapist has posted an article with insider information from nine former employees of Star Citizen, alleging a hostile work environment, the company has burned through $82 Million of their $90 Million in crowdfunded revenue.
According to several former employees and industry veterans, the reason Star Citizen is so popular is because it's never been done. And, they continue, the reason it has never been done is because it can't be done - at least, not with $90 million.
"$90 million for what he's pitching, even with a competent leadership, you couldn't do," CS1 wrote. "The thing you have to remember about Chris Roberts is that, before this, he hadn't made a game in 12 years. He has no concept of what can and can't be done today with that amount of money, or for a game like this. Chris Roberts hadn't made a game in 12 years, and he was actively ignoring the input of people who have been in and a part of the industry that entire time."
To this, Roberts says: "How do you or they know this? Which employees said this and what makes them qualified to make that judgement? I know it's what Derek Smart loves to say but he couldn't make a good game with $200m so I don't think his opinion matters. Outside of that, no employee beyond me and a few other key people who are leading Star Citizen would have the appropriate information and overview to make any judgement about the cost of the total project. Secondly, the company uses additional sources of funding such as tax incentives, marketing and product partnerships, but we do not discuss these issues in public for obvious reasons. We always keep a healthy cash reserve and operate our business prudently based on the incoming revenue. It should tell you something that we are actually increasing our global headcount not decreasing it."
Over concerns that he is not responding to advice from workers, Roberts writes "I have a very strong vision for Star Citizen, which is why I believe we have been backed to the level we have. I have no doubt what we can achieve. Now that most of the base technology is in place we will be able to get with the Large World and MultiCrew milestone a game experience that will allow you to seamlessly go from foot, to boarding a fully realized spaceship with your friends, take off, fly thousands or millions of km in space, exit your ship in EVA and explore derelict space stations or wrecks, engage in FPS combat, return to your ship, engage in space combat and return to your home base to share the tales of your adventures with your other friends. All with no leading screens, all at AAA first person fidelity that you can't even get on a next gen console. This is the core of the Squadron 42 and Star Citizen experience that we will continue to iterate on and add content to, but even the first release will be more "game" than most commercially released space games. In terms of not listening to the advice of people that have worked in the industry that is not true. I have a very strong executive management and design team with huge experience in AAA titles that all contribute to the decision making of the company. I listen to everyone - from our top level all the way through to our QA testers and community giving feedback on gameplay and features. I care and want to build the best game possible. Now that doesn't mean I agree with everyone's opinions and feedback as a project director I owe it to the community to stay true to my vision and pick the things that I think will make the game better which can occasionally lead to people feeling disgruntled, which I suspect is the root of this "concern"."
The popular consensus among most of the people who reached out is that Chris Roberts is not intentionally a con man. "He doesn't set out in the morning to screw anybody over. He's just incredibly arrogant," CS2 stated.
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#5167942 Posted on: 10/04/2015 01:11 AM
Obi-Wan once said: "Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"
Obi-Wan once said: "Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"
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#5167943 Posted on: 10/04/2015 01:24 AM
Yeah that one got me too, ok I get that you aren't just buying the game or the ship that you are in fact paying to help develop the game and that the 'limited edition' ships are a reward 'of sorts' for contributing a large sum of money. The thing is didn't a crowd funded game already do this with a much better pay off for people that helped fund the game? I am talking about Project Cars, didn't that game offer set payouts dependant on how much you paid in to fund the project? In many ways that seems like a much fairer deal than some ship that is only 'limited' by the fact that some database somewhere has 1,000 as a value instead of 20,000,000?
I would defend it too and say its omfgbbq awesome if I threw away fricking 200€+ for a 45€ worth game lol
Yeah that one got me too, ok I get that you aren't just buying the game or the ship that you are in fact paying to help develop the game and that the 'limited edition' ships are a reward 'of sorts' for contributing a large sum of money. The thing is didn't a crowd funded game already do this with a much better pay off for people that helped fund the game? I am talking about Project Cars, didn't that game offer set payouts dependant on how much you paid in to fund the project? In many ways that seems like a much fairer deal than some ship that is only 'limited' by the fact that some database somewhere has 1,000 as a value instead of 20,000,000?
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#5167956 Posted on: 10/04/2015 03:09 AM
And scooby go report me then, what you gonna report me for? Go on go run to daddy you big girl. lol reporting people on a forum, you seriously need to get out more.
Also the mods will have been reading this thread anyhow so they will have been aware of contents of this thread. you think not one mod or even hilbert has not been reading this thread, think again. It's amusing to them to read just like anybody else reads, you reporting just makes you like a cry baby and a pain in the ass. Carry on go ahead.
Sweet so now you need to resort to name calling hey? Now I'm a baby and a big girl huh?
I don't need to report I guess, if you're right the mods will already see how you're acting and deal with you accordingly.
Sad that someone who has been a member of these forums for a long while and you can't even act civilized with its members. And you call me the baby.. Lol
And scooby go report me then, what you gonna report me for? Go on go run to daddy you big girl. lol reporting people on a forum, you seriously need to get out more.
Also the mods will have been reading this thread anyhow so they will have been aware of contents of this thread. you think not one mod or even hilbert has not been reading this thread, think again. It's amusing to them to read just like anybody else reads, you reporting just makes you like a cry baby and a pain in the ass. Carry on go ahead.
Sweet so now you need to resort to name calling hey? Now I'm a baby and a big girl huh?
I don't need to report I guess, if you're right the mods will already see how you're acting and deal with you accordingly.
Sad that someone who has been a member of these forums for a long while and you can't even act civilized with its members. And you call me the baby.. Lol
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#5167961 Posted on: 10/04/2015 03:31 AM
this is soooo unprofessional, if what said in this article is UNTRUE, its hurting the good people that is working on this project, it saddens me that ´´professional´´ gaming journalism is becoming more sensationalist everyday, that says a lot of the low income, that now needs click bait in order to sustain its business.
I guess the new age of journalism like the kind we see in Gregs Millers Kinda Funny Gaming, Angry Joe, and Total Buisquit (to make some examples), is the new trend to relay on.
Todays Accuracy and truth depends on these ´´free lancers´´ sometimes even them are questionable sources of information.
this is soooo unprofessional, if what said in this article is UNTRUE, its hurting the good people that is working on this project, it saddens me that ´´professional´´ gaming journalism is becoming more sensationalist everyday, that says a lot of the low income, that now needs click bait in order to sustain its business.
I guess the new age of journalism like the kind we see in Gregs Millers Kinda Funny Gaming, Angry Joe, and Total Buisquit (to make some examples), is the new trend to relay on.
Todays Accuracy and truth depends on these ´´free lancers´´ sometimes even them are questionable sources of information.
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I would defend it too and say its omfgbbq awesome if I threw away fricking 200€+ for a 45€ worth game lol, but overall its still a ripoff game dragging forever either you "fans" like it or not. Sorry it is so.
While you're at it better threw at him some extra cash so it makes him happier and you may get a new color for your 90-150€ ship