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Spotted: Samsungs Next-Gen PM981 NVMe SSD
If you just purchased a 960 EVO or Pro series NVMEs SSD from Samsung, well Samsung is working on a 980 series already. The new Next-Gen PM981 just appeared online.
Like the new 980 models will be an NVME product with a high layered NAND count. The 980 series have been spotted over at Toms who notes that the new NVMe SSDs appeared on the University of New Hampshire InterOperability Laboratory NVMe Integrator's list. The retail drives are labeled NVMe 97X and 98X.
Samsung would release the two products around the January time frame, using new 64-layer 3-bit per cell V-NAND memory. NVMe drives carry the label PM981 which would be TLC written and thus might become the EVO series.
The new models would make use of a new Samsung Polaris Gen 2 controller are capable of delivering 3,000 MB/s and 3,200 MB/s sequential read speeds (for the 512 GB and 1 TB versions) and 1,800 MB/s and 2,400 MB/s sequential write, respectively. Random 4KB numbers run up to 380,000 IOPS read and 440,000 IOPS write, which is pretty crazy. The photos show a green PCB, these would be the OEM versions.
| Product | PM981 512GB | PM981 1TB |
|---|---|---|
| Pricing (USD) | $233 | $439 |
| Part Number | MZVLB512HAJQ-0000 | MZVLB1T10HALR-0000 |
| Form Factor | 2280 SS | 2280 SS |
| Interface | PCIe 3.0 x4 | PCIe 3.0 x4 |
| Controller | Samsung Polaris V2 | Samsung Polaris V2 |
| Flash | Samsung 64-Layer TLC | Samsung 64-Layer TLC |
| Sequential Read | 3,000 MB/s | 3,200 MB/s |
| Sequential Write | 1,800 MB/s | 2,400 MB/s |
| Random Read | 270,000 IOPS | 380,000 IOPS |
| Random Write | 420,000 IOPS | 440,000 IOPS |
The specs are so specific as these models appeared at a Vietnamese retailer who actually already listed them at $233 and $439 .
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#5482133 Posted on: 10/16/2017 09:29 AM
This is a OEM version, the final pruduct will be better, like its was with the SM961 and 960 PRO/EVO
But the bottleneck will be always the processor now with thoses speeds.
Great disappointment I do not see a difference in speed between 981 and 960
This is a OEM version, the final pruduct will be better, like its was with the SM961 and 960 PRO/EVO
But the bottleneck will be always the processor now with thoses speeds.
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#5482160 Posted on: 10/16/2017 11:09 AM
With higher core counts on the Cpu you still do not see much of an improvement. This type of drive / storage is only useful for shifting large blocks of data fast not much use for a OS drive.
With higher core counts on the Cpu you still do not see much of an improvement. This type of drive / storage is only useful for shifting large blocks of data fast not much use for a OS drive.
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#5482164 Posted on: 10/16/2017 11:34 AM
I agree with you but with frequency OC yes, even with memory OC and tighter timings.
With higher core counts on the Cpu you still do not see much of an improvement.
I agree with you but with frequency OC yes, even with memory OC and tighter timings.
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#5482183 Posted on: 10/16/2017 12:19 PM
Does this mean new motherboards?
for 980 series
Does this mean new motherboards?
for 980 series
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#5482207 Posted on: 10/16/2017 01:19 PM
Does this mean new motherboards?
for 980 series
No, we won't need new motherboards until PICe gen 4 devices are on the market. If your motherboards supports the 960 then the 980 should be plug and play.
Does this mean new motherboards?
for 980 series
No, we won't need new motherboards until PICe gen 4 devices are on the market. If your motherboards supports the 960 then the 980 should be plug and play.
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#5482246 Posted on: 10/16/2017 03:51 PM
results are still not very good at 500GB
there is no difference between 960 and 981
I do not understand why they published such bad results for 981
you have to wait for PCIE 4.0 or PCI-E 3.0 X8
No, we won't need new motherboards until PICe gen 4 devices are on the market. If your motherboards supports the 960 then the 980 should be plug and play.
results are still not very good at 500GB
there is no difference between 960 and 981
I do not understand why they published such bad results for 981
you have to wait for PCIE 4.0 or PCI-E 3.0 X8
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#5482416 Posted on: 10/17/2017 03:31 AM
I've been waiting for news on the 970/980 ssds for ages.
I've been planning to buy a 2TB 960 but read at the start of august that the new ones might be around the corner but have heard nothing since.
The 950 and 960 were out by this time in the last 2 years so given that there is literally no news so far on the proper 970/980 pro for example...I just wonder how much longer I will have to wait.
I've been waiting for news on the 970/980 ssds for ages.
I've been planning to buy a 2TB 960 but read at the start of august that the new ones might be around the corner but have heard nothing since.
The 950 and 960 were out by this time in the last 2 years so given that there is literally no news so far on the proper 970/980 pro for example...I just wonder how much longer I will have to wait.
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#5482417 Posted on: 10/17/2017 03:44 AM
I've been waiting for news on the 970/980 ssds for ages.
I've been planning to buy a 2TB 960 but read at the start of august that the new ones might be around the corner but have heard nothing since.
The 950 and 960 were out by this time in the last 2 years so given that there is literally no news so far on the proper 970/980 pro for example...I just wonder how much longer I will have to wait.
Most likely Q1 next year.
OEM comes before 980pro by a few months.
I've been waiting for news on the 970/980 ssds for ages.
I've been planning to buy a 2TB 960 but read at the start of august that the new ones might be around the corner but have heard nothing since.
The 950 and 960 were out by this time in the last 2 years so given that there is literally no news so far on the proper 970/980 pro for example...I just wonder how much longer I will have to wait.
Most likely Q1 next year.
OEM comes before 980pro by a few months.
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#5482432 Posted on: 10/17/2017 05:36 AM
NO I think you're a publicist
1. Who needs 1GB to install a Windows system?
2. I can install RAID0 with 256GB PRO960
And will cost me 50% less and I will get 3000MB / 3000MB
do not forget that the price of 960 went down
What are you blind? Or you just trolling? I say that's a good ass price for a 1TB nvme pcie ssd. Also the rr iops is 110k more and the sw speed is 600 MB's faster.
NO I think you're a publicist
1. Who needs 1GB to install a Windows system?
2. I can install RAID0 with 256GB PRO960
And will cost me 50% less and I will get 3000MB / 3000MB
do not forget that the price of 960 went down
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#5482441 Posted on: 10/17/2017 06:04 AM
@dfsdfs1112
Someone is moving the goal posts...and someone who owns a gtx480 is going to raid 2 m.2 sata drives....yeah not happening.
Does your motherboard to match that ancient gpu even have m.2 slots? And if it does, you are going to use likely all of your motherboards m.2 slots just for the smallest capacity boot drive in raid money can buy, what a waste of money.
Drive speeds go up with drive capacity, the 256gb drive is the slowest of them all, also with the lowest rated endurance of them all, why would you raid 2 of the slowest, smallest and lowest endurance drives of the series,l which takes up 2 slots and 2x 4x pci lanes....just for a boot drive.
Gee golly gosh those boot times on that drive that will fit zero games will be mighty impressive. If you are using it for compression or video conversion you might even be able to fit a single short video on it
....oh but in record time of course.
The drives in this article compared to the 960pro 256gb are 440,000 IOPS vs the 85,000 IOPS and 2400gb/s vs 900gb/s write and 3200mb/s vs 2200mb/s
@dfsdfs1112
Someone is moving the goal posts...and someone who owns a gtx480 is going to raid 2 m.2 sata drives....yeah not happening.
Does your motherboard to match that ancient gpu even have m.2 slots? And if it does, you are going to use likely all of your motherboards m.2 slots just for the smallest capacity boot drive in raid money can buy, what a waste of money.
Drive speeds go up with drive capacity, the 256gb drive is the slowest of them all, also with the lowest rated endurance of them all, why would you raid 2 of the slowest, smallest and lowest endurance drives of the series,l which takes up 2 slots and 2x 4x pci lanes....just for a boot drive.
Gee golly gosh those boot times on that drive that will fit zero games will be mighty impressive. If you are using it for compression or video conversion you might even be able to fit a single short video on it
....oh but in record time of course.The drives in this article compared to the 960pro 256gb are 440,000 IOPS vs the 85,000 IOPS and 2400gb/s vs 900gb/s write and 3200mb/s vs 2200mb/s
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#5483246 Posted on: 10/19/2017 05:23 AM
Any improvement in thermal / heat tolerant?
Any improvement in thermal / heat tolerant?
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#5483453 Posted on: 10/19/2017 05:45 PM
@dfsdfs1112
Someone is moving the goal posts...and someone who owns a gtx480 is going to raid 2 m.2 sata drives....yeah not happening.
Does your motherboard to match that ancient gpu even have m.2 slots? And if it does, you are going to use likely all of your motherboards m.2 slots just for the smallest capacity boot drive in raid money can buy, what a waste of money.
Drive speeds go up with drive capacity, the 256gb drive is the slowest of them all, also with the lowest rated endurance of them all, why would you raid 2 of the slowest, smallest and lowest endurance drives of the series,l which takes up 2 slots and 2x 4x pci lanes....just for a boot drive.
Gee golly gosh those boot times on that drive that will fit zero games will be mighty impressive. If you are using it for compression or video conversion you might even be able to fit a single short video on it....oh but in record time of course.
The drives in this article compared to the 960pro 256gb are 440,000 IOPS vs the 85,000 IOPS and 2400gb/s vs 900gb/s write and 3200mb/s vs 2200mb/s
You write endless nonsense
1. i do not have gtx480 ! i have 480 AMD
2. I'm looking to buy a new computer
3. you Just proving me 960PRO is still more worthwhile
@dfsdfs1112
Someone is moving the goal posts...and someone who owns a gtx480 is going to raid 2 m.2 sata drives....yeah not happening.
Does your motherboard to match that ancient gpu even have m.2 slots? And if it does, you are going to use likely all of your motherboards m.2 slots just for the smallest capacity boot drive in raid money can buy, what a waste of money.
Drive speeds go up with drive capacity, the 256gb drive is the slowest of them all, also with the lowest rated endurance of them all, why would you raid 2 of the slowest, smallest and lowest endurance drives of the series,l which takes up 2 slots and 2x 4x pci lanes....just for a boot drive.
Gee golly gosh those boot times on that drive that will fit zero games will be mighty impressive. If you are using it for compression or video conversion you might even be able to fit a single short video on it
....oh but in record time of course.The drives in this article compared to the 960pro 256gb are 440,000 IOPS vs the 85,000 IOPS and 2400gb/s vs 900gb/s write and 3200mb/s vs 2200mb/s
You write endless nonsense
1. i do not have gtx480 ! i have 480 AMD
2. I'm looking to buy a new computer
3. you Just proving me 960PRO is still more worthwhile
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#5484005 Posted on: 10/21/2017 12:04 PM
Intel to launch second-gen Optane 900P SSDs very soon
Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/59462/intel-launch-second-gen-optane-900p-ssds-very-soon/index.html
Less well than 960 PRO ?
Intel to launch second-gen Optane 900P SSDs very soon
Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/59462/intel-launch-second-gen-optane-900p-ssds-very-soon/index.html
Less well than 960 PRO ?
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#5484283 Posted on: 10/22/2017 04:47 PM
Oh goodie goodie goodie *rubs hands wildly*
Can't wait for the nextgen to appear so prices on existing 960 EVO drop, or the new "980 EVO?" being faster, cooler at similar price with today's 960.
Oh goodie goodie goodie *rubs hands wildly*
Can't wait for the nextgen to appear so prices on existing 960 EVO drop, or the new "980 EVO?" being faster, cooler at similar price with today's 960.
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Great disappointment I do not see a difference in speed between 981 and 960