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Spotted: Ryzen 3 1200 CPU with Eight Active CPU Cores Enabled
It is not the first time we see hear about something like this happening. But thus far we haven't seen it happening with a Ryzen 3 1200. There is a video floating on the web of a Russia based guy who purchased a Ryzen 3 1200, a four core sub 100 USD processor. The user, however, found his PC rather fast.
As it turns out, instead of four active CPU cores, he has eight CPU cores active. SMT towards 16 threads, however, was not active. The extra cores were not unlocked by a trick or tweak in the BIOS, it ran fully activated "out of the box".
The buyer made a video on Youtube which supports his claims with proof. CPU-Z displays eight cores and threads instead of four. The benchmark gives the Ryzen 3 1200 a significantly higher performance than it would have had with four cores. In the Cinebench R15, the user reached around 900 opposed to the normally roughly 480 points in the multithreading test.
Users now call the unlocked Ryzen processors Lootboxes, in a positive manner :-) Below the video of the user, called boxserg.
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#5496219 Posted on: 11/28/2017 07:59 PM
"Users now call the unlocked Ryzen processors Lootboxes, in a positive manner
"
"Users now call the unlocked Ryzen processors Lootboxes, in a positive manner
"
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#5496233 Posted on: 11/28/2017 08:47 PM
It appears the guy in Dresden in charge of disabling cores decided to mark this batch as done and then clocked out.
It appears the guy in Dresden in charge of disabling cores decided to mark this batch as done and then clocked out.
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#5496242 Posted on: 11/28/2017 09:07 PM
I think the way that AMD creates the Zen cores makes such accidents inevitable. A simple sorting issue and you have a bunch of CPUs with more cores than you bargained for (in a good way). Must be nice for the lucky few.
I think the way that AMD creates the Zen cores makes such accidents inevitable. A simple sorting issue and you have a bunch of CPUs with more cores than you bargained for (in a good way). Must be nice for the lucky few.
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#5496275 Posted on: 11/28/2017 11:04 PM
Well that is some yuuuuge silicon lottery win
Well that is some yuuuuge silicon lottery win
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#5496283 Posted on: 11/28/2017 11:33 PM
Can't help but think AMD slips one of these CPUs by 'accident' into market every now and then...
Cost of one CPU vs. the potential purchases of new CPUs as people hope to win the silicon lottery... smart!
Can't help but think AMD slips one of these CPUs by 'accident' into market every now and then...
Cost of one CPU vs. the potential purchases of new CPUs as people hope to win the silicon lottery... smart!
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#5496309 Posted on: 11/29/2017 01:06 AM
Can't help but think AMD slips one of these CPUs by 'accident' into market every now and then... :p
Cost of one CPU vs. the potential purchases of new CPUs as people hope to win the silicon lottery... smart!
As long as people don't shift to buying the cheap models believing they will get lucky.
Can't help but think AMD slips one of these CPUs by 'accident' into market every now and then... :p
Cost of one CPU vs. the potential purchases of new CPUs as people hope to win the silicon lottery... smart!
As long as people don't shift to buying the cheap models believing they will get lucky.
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#5496328 Posted on: 11/29/2017 02:09 AM
"Users now call the unlocked Ryzen processors Lootboxes, in a positive manner"
That was a good one indeed.
"Users now call the unlocked Ryzen processors Lootboxes, in a positive manner
"That was a good one indeed.
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#5496339 Posted on: 11/29/2017 03:15 AM
@2901BitSlice
+1
seems more likely than amd slipping up...
@2901BitSlice
+1
seems more likely than amd slipping up...
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#5496340 Posted on: 11/29/2017 03:19 AM
Ok... I just hope AMD doesn't introduce gambling to CPUs with Zen 2.
But seriously how is this professional? I understand there difference with overclocking, but core count puts huge gap in equality between consumers.
Ok... I just hope AMD doesn't introduce gambling to CPUs with Zen 2.
But seriously how is this professional? I understand there difference with overclocking, but core count puts huge gap in equality between consumers.
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#5496400 Posted on: 11/29/2017 09:37 AM
Ok... I just hope AMD doesn't introduce gambling to CPUs with Zen 2.
But seriously how is this professional? I understand there difference with overclocking, but core count puts huge gap in equality between consumers.
Naw they wont, this type of thing could be as simple as a misaligned laser cut. if anything it shows amd's QA testing is lacking.
Ok... I just hope AMD doesn't introduce gambling to CPUs with Zen 2.
But seriously how is this professional? I understand there difference with overclocking, but core count puts huge gap in equality between consumers.
Naw they wont, this type of thing could be as simple as a misaligned laser cut. if anything it shows amd's QA testing is lacking.
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#5496480 Posted on: 11/29/2017 03:24 PM
It also lend some support to the early notion that when they said they had ~80% yields that they were referring to perfect dies not just useable.
Naw they wont, this type of thing could be as simple as a misaligned laser cut. if anything it shows amd's QA testing is lacking.
It also lend some support to the early notion that when they said they had ~80% yields that they were referring to perfect dies not just useable.
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#5496497 Posted on: 11/29/2017 04:46 PM
Lucky *beep*, could have been me.
Lucky *beep*, could have been me.
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#5496508 Posted on: 11/29/2017 05:26 PM
What I don't fully understand is how the CPU is still recognized as a 1200, or how the additional cores remain functional. There are no Ryzens with 8 cores and no SMT, let alone R3s with more than 4 cores. What I'm getting at is if the CPU's hardware doesn't match the microcode, how can all 8 cores function? To put it in another perspective:
Let's say you bought a car that normally comes with a V6, but for whatever reason the one you got had a V8. The ECU is only programmed to handle a V6, so the extra 2 cylinders would basically do nothing. They're still moving due to being part of the same crank and they might even still receive fuel or air, but they aren't productive.
And yes, I understand that if this were to somehow happen, the engine would fail to run since the timings of a V6 are different from a V8 - this is just hypothetical.
Yeah seriously, back in the Athlon/Phenom II days, it was considered a big win to unlock a triple core with 4 fully-functional cores, and hitting the jackpot if you unlocked a dual core into a quad. But to go from 4 to 8 cores without even trying is crazy luck
What I don't fully understand is how the CPU is still recognized as a 1200, or how the additional cores remain functional. There are no Ryzens with 8 cores and no SMT, let alone R3s with more than 4 cores. What I'm getting at is if the CPU's hardware doesn't match the microcode, how can all 8 cores function? To put it in another perspective:
Let's say you bought a car that normally comes with a V6, but for whatever reason the one you got had a V8. The ECU is only programmed to handle a V6, so the extra 2 cylinders would basically do nothing. They're still moving due to being part of the same crank and they might even still receive fuel or air, but they aren't productive.
And yes, I understand that if this were to somehow happen, the engine would fail to run since the timings of a V6 are different from a V8 - this is just hypothetical.
Well that is some yuuuuge silicon lottery win
Yeah seriously, back in the Athlon/Phenom II days, it was considered a big win to unlock a triple core with 4 fully-functional cores, and hitting the jackpot if you unlocked a dual core into a quad. But to go from 4 to 8 cores without even trying is crazy luck
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#5496530 Posted on: 11/29/2017 06:44 PM
What I don't fully understand is how the CPU is still recognized as a 1200, or how the additional cores remain functional. There are no Ryzens with 8 cores and no SMT, let alone R3s with more than 4 cores. What I'm getting at is if the CPU's hardware doesn't match the microcode, how can all 8 cores function? To put it in another perspective:
Let's say you bought a car that normally comes with a V6, but for whatever reason the one you got had a V8. The ECU is only programmed to handle a V6, so the extra 2 cylinders would basically do nothing. They're still moving due to being part of the same crank and they might even still receive fuel or air, but they aren't productive.
And yes, I understand that if this were to somehow happen, the engine would fail to run since the timings of a V6 are different from a V8 - this is just hypothetical.
Yeah seriously, back in the Athlon/Phenom II days, it was considered a big win to unlock a triple core with 4 fully-functional cores, and hitting the jackpot if you unlocked a dual core into a quad. But to go from 4 to 8 cores without even trying is crazy luck
I think there is no microcode with AMD processors just burn-in serial number with which motherboard then "recognize" processor and gives it name for instance R3 1200.I remember that AMD introduced that serial numbers after bunch of fakes flooded market, basically some guys in Taiwan were buying bunch of lover clocked processors for example Athlon XP1500+, 1600+,1700+ and then they overclocked them and slapped new label XP2600+,3000+ ... and sell them at premium price. I had bought one of those Phenom's . X2 555 if i remember correctly hoping to unlock extra cores, no luck stuck on 2 cores wouldn't move note a cm but hey at least it overclocked like a little demon
What I don't fully understand is how the CPU is still recognized as a 1200, or how the additional cores remain functional. There are no Ryzens with 8 cores and no SMT, let alone R3s with more than 4 cores. What I'm getting at is if the CPU's hardware doesn't match the microcode, how can all 8 cores function? To put it in another perspective:
Let's say you bought a car that normally comes with a V6, but for whatever reason the one you got had a V8. The ECU is only programmed to handle a V6, so the extra 2 cylinders would basically do nothing. They're still moving due to being part of the same crank and they might even still receive fuel or air, but they aren't productive.
And yes, I understand that if this were to somehow happen, the engine would fail to run since the timings of a V6 are different from a V8 - this is just hypothetical.
Yeah seriously, back in the Athlon/Phenom II days, it was considered a big win to unlock a triple core with 4 fully-functional cores, and hitting the jackpot if you unlocked a dual core into a quad. But to go from 4 to 8 cores without even trying is crazy luck
I think there is no microcode with AMD processors just burn-in serial number with which motherboard then "recognize" processor and gives it name for instance R3 1200.I remember that AMD introduced that serial numbers after bunch of fakes flooded market, basically some guys in Taiwan were buying bunch of lover clocked processors for example Athlon XP1500+, 1600+,1700+ and then they overclocked them and slapped new label XP2600+,3000+ ... and sell them at premium price. I had bought one of those Phenom's . X2 555 if i remember correctly hoping to unlock extra cores, no luck
stuck on 2 cores wouldn't move note a cm but hey at least it overclocked like a little demon
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