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Six Core AMD Ryzen Processors Might Still Possible

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 02/02/2017 10:02 AM | source: | 21 comment(s)
Six Core AMD Ryzen Processors Might Still Possible

So we have posted a thing or two already about Ryzen being released as 4 and 8 core processors. AMD will release an 4 and 8-core model with and without hyper-threading. 

Info comes from Thai based zolkorn indicated that AMD only can release 4- and 8-core models both with and without hyper-threading. The explanations is as follows, the Ryzen processors are build out of partitions that each have 4 physical cores in one module. Traditionally they had a dual-core setup so an 8-core version had four of these which could be activated and disabled per module.

New information now has been posted at io-tech.fi from our good buddy Sampsa. He claims to have confirmed from an extremely reliable source that AMD's Ryzen CPU can be configured as 6-core model. 

We have confirmed from our sources that AMD’s upcoming Ryzen processor can be technically configured as 6-core model. It is possible to disable each CPU core separately together with dedicated L2 cache from CCX without affecting shared L3 cache.

Possible L3 cache configurations are 1/1 (8 MB), 1/2 (4 MB) or completely disabled. Basic rule is that both CCXs should have similar CPU core and L3 configuration for example both should have 3 cores and full 8 MB L3 cache enabled (6C & 16 MB L3). We believe AMD will launch 6-core model of Ryzen CPU. If they don’t, it will be due other reasons than technical limitation of CCX.

One thing is certain though, we'll see four and eight core models with SKU differences in HT, clock frequencies and TDPs at launch. Then four core mainstream and higher specced parts will get unlocked multipliers. And sure, perhaps we'll see a six-core / 12-treaded part in there as well.

At the end of this month more info should become available with a launch in early March.



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#5387775 Posted on: 02/02/2017 12:44 PM
Maybe the 6-core can be pencil modded into an 8-core...

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#5387783 Posted on: 02/02/2017 01:10 PM
Good news, that will allow for robust product pricing.

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#5387794 Posted on: 02/02/2017 01:53 PM
6C/12T and 8C/8T will be too close with eachothers performance to make them priced differently (if they both come out). If SMT gain is under 33% 8C/8T will be faster, and if it will over 33% 6C/12T will be faster. So basicly most games will have 8C/8T faster, but other applications like blender where SMT gain is close to 50% 6C/12T will be faster.

Kinda makes it hard for pricing and marketing, which one is actually the faster one?

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#5387797 Posted on: 02/02/2017 02:02 PM
6C/12T and 8C/8T will be too close with eachothers performance to make them priced differently (if they both come out). If SMT gain is under 33% 8C/8T will be faster, and if it will over 33% 6C/12T will be faster. So basicly most games will have 8C/8T faster, but other applications like blender where SMT gain is close to 50% 6C/12T will be faster.

Kinda makes it hard for pricing and marketing, which one is actually the faster one?

Yes it will be a little bit complicate, anyway in case to case. But theres another factor it seems for the differentiation to take in account... Clock speed.

Actually other site report 3.7ghz for the 6cores, and 4ghz+ for the 8cores ( 16thread ).

The 6cores have a codename “ZD3301BBM6IF4_37/33_Y" ( 6 = cores, 37/33 = turbo / base clock )

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#5387805 Posted on: 02/02/2017 02:35 PM
6C/12T and 8C/8T will be too close with eachothers performance to make them priced differently (if they both come out). If SMT gain is under 33% 8C/8T will be faster, and if it will over 33% 6C/12T will be faster. So basicly most games will have 8C/8T faster, but other applications like blender where SMT gain is close to 50% 6C/12T will be faster.

Kinda makes it hard for pricing and marketing, which one is actually the faster one?

At first thought I was thinking the same thing, however now I actually believe the 6core part would actually make marketing easier. Having more and different modes (unlike intel with basically 3 models) makes it easier, 4c4t < 4c8t < 6c6t < 6c8t < 8c8t < 8c16t, and if they make the price of the 4c4t slightly lower than the i3s and then the price of the 8c16t slightly higher than the i7 then this would mean starting from 120$ and reaching 400$ then this would allow them to have a different product within 50$ of the next. Now add in slightly higher clocked and different binned so that you have either 2 or 3 of each of the mentioned models above and then you have a full range of CPUs from 100-400$ each within 20$. Basically you'd cover the whole market.

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