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Guru3D.com » News » Six Core AMD Ryzen Processors Might Still Possible

Six Core AMD Ryzen Processors Might Still Possible

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 02/02/2017 10:02 AM | source: | 21 comment(s)
Six Core AMD Ryzen Processors Might Still Possible

So we have posted a thing or two already about Ryzen being released as 4 and 8 core processors. AMD will release an 4 and 8-core model with and without hyper-threading. 

Info comes from Thai based zolkorn indicated that AMD only can release 4- and 8-core models both with and without hyper-threading. The explanations is as follows, the Ryzen processors are build out of partitions that each have 4 physical cores in one module. Traditionally they had a dual-core setup so an 8-core version had four of these which could be activated and disabled per module.

New information now has been posted at io-tech.fi from our good buddy Sampsa. He claims to have confirmed from an extremely reliable source that AMD's Ryzen CPU can be configured as 6-core model. 

We have confirmed from our sources that AMD’s upcoming Ryzen processor can be technically configured as 6-core model. It is possible to disable each CPU core separately together with dedicated L2 cache from CCX without affecting shared L3 cache.

Possible L3 cache configurations are 1/1 (8 MB), 1/2 (4 MB) or completely disabled. Basic rule is that both CCXs should have similar CPU core and L3 configuration for example both should have 3 cores and full 8 MB L3 cache enabled (6C & 16 MB L3). We believe AMD will launch 6-core model of Ryzen CPU. If they don’t, it will be due other reasons than technical limitation of CCX.

One thing is certain though, we'll see four and eight core models with SKU differences in HT, clock frequencies and TDPs at launch. Then four core mainstream and higher specced parts will get unlocked multipliers. And sure, perhaps we'll see a six-core / 12-treaded part in there as well.

At the end of this month more info should become available with a launch in early March.



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Skullviking
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#5388158 Posted on: 02/03/2017 07:07 AM
Hope these rumors are true but regardless i'm really excited to see more news about these chips, everyone has been waiting!!!!

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#5388160 Posted on: 02/03/2017 07:25 AM
This isn't Intel, and it isn't literally Hyper Threading. From what I heard, what AMD is doing is a different approach. Don't forget, even the "8-core" FX CPUs were actually 4c/8t. The only difference is the additional 4 threads were still based on physical hardware and truly worked in parallel, whereas Intel's HT basically "re-uses" the same hardware and worked in serial.

Regardless, even if this was Intel we were talking about and what you said were true, then
why does Intel have Xeon chips that are 6c/12t and 8c/8t?



Anyway, I'm not surprised about the release of 6-core chips. Just as I said in the other article, it would be an economically horrible choice to only do 4 and 8 core models, when you consider the inevitable errors in the manufacturing process.

I'd say, assuming your question is rhetorical, :) that suitability would depend upon how efficiently HT utilized. There are use examples were an 8/8 is more efficient than using 6/12HT.

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#5388177 Posted on: 02/03/2017 09:32 AM
I somehow can't see AMD disabling HT or any other processor feature.


I think that 4/4 (cheapest)-> 4/8 (still cheap, hopefully) -> 6/12 (midrange) -> 8/16 (beast) would make sense.

Personally what I'm really really looking for is for low powered APUs so that I can upgrade my aging slow as a turtle AMD E-450 :roll:
Sadly I'm probably gonna have to wait until Christmas or something like that, because I'm sure that the first APUs to come out are going to be the desktop ones, or mid to high powered laptop ones.

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#5388461 Posted on: 02/03/2017 11:19 PM
Well looks like that early chart was spot on..

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu-mainboard/amd-s-ryzen-cpu-lineup-has-been-leaked/1


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#5388512 Posted on: 02/04/2017 01:45 AM
Chart is weird, 6800k is much faster than 7700k an extra couple hundred mhz makes it comparable to 6900k?

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