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Shortage Intel Processor on the Rise - Price Hike Expected
We've talked a number of times already about the fact that the demand for processors is high and that Intel does not have enough production capacity, especially on the 14nm node. This creates an unbalance in the market, driving prices up.
It seems to be happening again as shortages of Intel processors are rising again. DigiTimes mentions it in a news article. The forecast is that the new high on shortage will be in the second quarter. A side note is that the impact this round will be bigger as it is expected due to an increasing demand for Chromebooks and light laptops. So the Core i5s was the worst available last year, according to DigiTimes, there would now be a shift to cheaper chips. The Core i3.
Digitimes Research expects Intel CPUs' supply gap to shrink to 2-3% in the first quarter with Core i3 taking over Core i5 as the series hit hardest by shortages. In the first quarter of 2019, the Core i5 processors featuring Coffee Lake architecture are now having the worst supply shortfall. Some of the demand for Intel's entry-level Atom processors has turned to AMD, while some others have opted for Core i3 processors. The rising demand for Core i3 processors has also started creating tight supply in the market. With demand for Chromebooks to pick up and brand vendors to begin mass shipping their new models all using processors that are in tight supply, Intel CPUs' supply gap is expected to grow 1-2pp sequentially in the second quarter of 2019, with the overall shipments unlikely to see much growth. Intel is expected to have new 14nm capacity join production in the second half of 2019. Intel's existing 14nm fabs are mainly located in the US and Ireland and the newly expanded capacity in Arizona, the US is expected to begin volume production in July or August, to boost Intel's overall 14nm capacity by 25% and completely resolve the shortage problem. Although Intel has announced its 10nm Ice Lake will begin mass production in the second half of 2019, Digitimes Research's sources from the upstream supply chain has revealed that there are still many issues with the CPU giant's mass production schedule for 10nm process.
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#5648904 Posted on: 03/12/2019 02:03 PM
Look at Radeon VII. Because NVIDIA was expensive and they could do it, AMD did the same.
If INTEL push prices even more and they can sell it, I can see the same happening with (ry)zen2. AMD is not a philanthropic organization. They work for profit, as everyone around us.
Look at Radeon VII. Because NVIDIA was expensive and they could do it, AMD did the same.
If INTEL push prices even more and they can sell it, I can see the same happening with (ry)zen2. AMD is not a philanthropic organization. They work for profit, as everyone around us.
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#5648905 Posted on: 03/12/2019 02:07 PM
I would not worry so much. AMD is already offering great prices for existing ryzen cpus. Its crazy that 2700X can be found for a little more than i5 9600k.
I would not worry so much. AMD is already offering great prices for existing ryzen cpus. Its crazy that 2700X can be found for a little more than i5 9600k.
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#5648907 Posted on: 03/12/2019 02:15 PM
The whole fan boy argument of my cpu is faster than yours is so passe. Get your own imagination and stop regurgitating the companies sales pitches. It always sounds to me like you guys are 3 years old on a playground saying my dad is bigger than your dad. The truth is both cpu companies have products that game at a high performance level, giving you plenty of fps to shoot that bad guy. Throw in modern gpu's and the cpu argument becomes irrelevant. The only aurgument left is do you want to pay more money for Intel to game at the same fps that Amd can give you for less. And now with Intels mismanagement you are going to pay even more. The old my cpu has a faster core speed is really silly sounding nowadays. IMHO.
The whole fan boy argument of my cpu is faster than yours is so passe. Get your own imagination and stop regurgitating the companies sales pitches. It always sounds to me like you guys are 3 years old on a playground saying my dad is bigger than your dad. The truth is both cpu companies have products that game at a high performance level, giving you plenty of fps to shoot that bad guy. Throw in modern gpu's and the cpu argument becomes irrelevant. The only aurgument left is do you want to pay more money for Intel to game at the same fps that Amd can give you for less. And now with Intels mismanagement you are going to pay even more. The old my cpu has a faster core speed is really silly sounding nowadays. IMHO.
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#5648909 Posted on: 03/12/2019 02:21 PM
This is why we need more competition in the CPU and GPU market, it would be great to have 4 or more major players in the market rather than 2.
I take it VIA will provide any serious competition.
This is why we need more competition in the CPU and GPU market, it would be great to have 4 or more major players in the market rather than 2.
I take it VIA will provide any serious competition.
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#5648910 Posted on: 03/12/2019 02:27 PM
Intel should just ditch 10nm and focus on 7nm UV.
Intel should just ditch 10nm and focus on 7nm UV.
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#5648913 Posted on: 03/12/2019 02:30 PM
As someone that's already been fondling the purchase button for an 9990K, I'm not that worried. The CPU I'm actually waiting for, the Ryzen 3700 or 3800 or whatever it will be named, the only reason I would pick the 9990K up now were if it was cheaper. Even Intel should release something new soon-ish and considering Spoiler, I can wait a while longer. I'm bored enough with my 6700K already but there still isn't anything available I can sleep well having spent my money on.
But I do miss having something new to unbox and install. Newest part is the 1,5 year old 1080Ti.
Bingo , this is exactly the same situation im in too .
As someone that's already been fondling the purchase button for an 9990K, I'm not that worried. The CPU I'm actually waiting for, the Ryzen 3700 or 3800 or whatever it will be named, the only reason I would pick the 9990K up now were if it was cheaper. Even Intel should release something new soon-ish and considering Spoiler, I can wait a while longer. I'm bored enough with my 6700K already but there still isn't anything available I can sleep well having spent my money on.
But I do miss having something new to unbox and install. Newest part is the 1,5 year old 1080Ti.
Bingo , this is exactly the same situation im in too .
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#5648916 Posted on: 03/12/2019 02:43 PM
Only regret for buying a 2700x is that the 3000 series are close to release,but i had no choice. But will probably upgrade to one if it's what the rumors say. Would have went for a 9900k instead if it wasn't 200 euros more than a 2700x.
Only regret for buying a 2700x is that the 3000 series are close to release,but i had no choice. But will probably upgrade to one if it's what the rumors say. Would have went for a 9900k instead if it wasn't 200 euros more than a 2700x.
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#5648929 Posted on: 03/12/2019 03:17 PM
This is not so easy to understand for some of us, i have had trouble understanding why would anyone wanting anything but a threadripper, that way of thinking was non sence, my workflow is doing architectural communication, and i use CPU ray tracing, so for me TR is the best way to go, but lately i could see that TR is just an stupid buy for most of the people out there who need an amd64 cpu, lately i found myself advicing an I3 8100 for a cheap gaming machine to a friend (he wanted to buy it local and the offer was not that wide), and i feel good about being a little more objective, as an amd fanboy (when you consider buying a radeon vii instead of a 2080, just because Nvidia is evil, you know you are a fanboy) that was unexpected even for me haha
Not everybody buys CPUs for multi thread performance.
This is not so easy to understand for some of us, i have had trouble understanding why would anyone wanting anything but a threadripper, that way of thinking was non sence, my workflow is doing architectural communication, and i use CPU ray tracing, so for me TR is the best way to go, but lately i could see that TR is just an stupid buy for most of the people out there who need an amd64 cpu, lately i found myself advicing an I3 8100 for a cheap gaming machine to a friend (he wanted to buy it local and the offer was not that wide), and i feel good about being a little more objective, as an amd fanboy (when you consider buying a radeon vii instead of a 2080, just because Nvidia is evil, you know you are a fanboy) that was unexpected even for me haha
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#5648937 Posted on: 03/12/2019 03:35 PM
i3 8100? that's a no buy....
some games can't run well on quad cores anymore and it's only going to get worse. the 8100 at 120$ makes no sense. you have the 2400G with much better graphics and 8 threads or a 2600 which has better boost and comes with an actual cooler.
This is not so easy to understand for some of us, i have had trouble understanding why would anyone wanting anything but a threadripper, that way of thinking was non sence, my workflow is doing architectural communication, and i use CPU ray tracing, so for me TR is the best way to go, but lately i could see that TR is just an stupid buy for most of the people out there who need an amd64 cpu, lately i found myself advicing an I3 8100 for a cheap gaming machine to a friend (he wanted to buy it local and the offer was not that wide), and i feel good about being a little more objective, as an amd fanboy (when you consider buying a radeon vii instead of a 2080, just because Nvidia is evil, you know you are a fanboy) that was unexpected even for me haha
i3 8100? that's a no buy....
some games can't run well on quad cores anymore and it's only going to get worse. the 8100 at 120$ makes no sense. you have the 2400G with much better graphics and 8 threads or a 2600 which has better boost and comes with an actual cooler.
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#5648942 Posted on: 03/12/2019 03:49 PM
This is good news for Intel. It is also good news for AMD. Really, the only people who lose out are prospective Intel customers, who will now have to pay more for their CPU. Sucks to be them
This is good news for Intel. It is also good news for AMD. Really, the only people who lose out are prospective Intel customers, who will now have to pay more for their CPU. Sucks to be them
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#5648949 Posted on: 03/12/2019 04:05 PM
Throughout most of Intel's history, they never really had an issue eventually selling out most of their stock. That being said, I'd consider this shortage bad news for them, since people are jumping ship. The last thing Intel needs is more people realizing AMD can provide a perfectly satisfactory experience for a lower price. Most people don't give a crap what the CPU is (most people don't even know what exactly a CPU is) they just want something that works as expected and they don't want to pay any more than necessary. The majority of Intel's models with a shortage and price hike are the ones catering exactly to this market.
This is good news for Intel. It is also good news for AMD. Really, the only people who lose out are prospective Intel customers, who will now have to pay more for their CPU. Sucks to be them :p
Throughout most of Intel's history, they never really had an issue eventually selling out most of their stock. That being said, I'd consider this shortage bad news for them, since people are jumping ship. The last thing Intel needs is more people realizing AMD can provide a perfectly satisfactory experience for a lower price. Most people don't give a crap what the CPU is (most people don't even know what exactly a CPU is) they just want something that works as expected and they don't want to pay any more than necessary. The majority of Intel's models with a shortage and price hike are the ones catering exactly to this market.
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#5648962 Posted on: 03/12/2019 04:42 PM
In Croatia AMD have always been better choise and better buy since k6 1998 procesor and foward.Intel +ram is just too expensive for us.Remember the RAMBUS or Triple chanel memory
In Croatia i7 9700k is 100 Euro more expensive than ryzen 7 2700x (1828 vs 1515 score???)
In Croatia AMD have always been better choise and better buy since k6 1998 procesor and foward.Intel +ram is just too expensive for us.Remember the RAMBUS or Triple chanel memory
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#5648963 Posted on: 03/12/2019 04:47 PM
Scores are just numbers... if games can't utilize all avaliable threads then it doesn't matter.
single threaded performance is still king.
but again, Intel now have to face Zen 2 and not Zen+. I expect big gains in clocks and modest in IPC. both will make AMD extremely competitive to the point Intel just doesn't make sense for consumers.
So You're using Computer only for gaming? Please explain me, in everyday usage, where does intel have better performance per euro than AMD? I'm just curious...... we are talking about performance per euro rating still????
Scores are just numbers... if games can't utilize all avaliable threads then it doesn't matter.
single threaded performance is still king.
but again, Intel now have to face Zen 2 and not Zen+. I expect big gains in clocks and modest in IPC. both will make AMD extremely competitive to the point Intel just doesn't make sense for consumers.
So You're using Computer only for gaming? Please explain me, in everyday usage, where does intel have better performance per euro than AMD? I'm just curious...... we are talking about performance per euro rating still????
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#5648969 Posted on: 03/12/2019 05:04 PM
i3 8100? that's a no buy....
some games can't run well on quad cores anymore and it's only going to get worse. the 8100 at 120$ makes no sense. you have the 2400G with much better graphics and 8 threads or a 2600 which has better boost and comes with an actual cooler.
Name one.
edit: why does AMD now include game mode for threadrippers as an option that disables threads if having more threads/cores is THE way to go?
So You're using Computer only for gaming? Please explain me, in everyday usage, where does intel have better performance per euro than AMD? I'm just curious...... we are talking about performance per euro rating still????
In gaming. In everyday use other than gaming, FX6xxx is good enough so explain it to me, why do I need Ryzen (or new intel) to do browsing and watching netflix or whatever the hell is "your" definition of "everyday use" ?
i3 8100? that's a no buy....
some games can't run well on quad cores anymore and it's only going to get worse. the 8100 at 120$ makes no sense. you have the 2400G with much better graphics and 8 threads or a 2600 which has better boost and comes with an actual cooler.
Name one.
edit: why does AMD now include game mode for threadrippers as an option that disables threads if having more threads/cores is THE way to go?
So You're using Computer only for gaming? Please explain me, in everyday usage, where does intel have better performance per euro than AMD? I'm just curious...... we are talking about performance per euro rating still????
In gaming. In everyday use other than gaming, FX6xxx is good enough so explain it to me, why do I need Ryzen (or new intel) to do browsing and watching netflix or whatever the hell is "your" definition of "everyday use" ?
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I've read a news article that said Intel CPU shortages are one of the factors for ram prices going down.
So I hope it keeps like this, and prices keep climbing up so ram can go down.
A bit worried for Zen2 price though.