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Sapphire Technology Product Manager Spills Some Beans on AMD NAVI
The actual page with information has been taken offline already but in an interview with a Sapphire Technology Product Manager at AMD 50 Gathering in China Product Manager Leo and Public Relations Director Jenny spilled some info.
The interview with Sapphire Technology Product Manager Leo and Public Relations Director Jenny at AMD 50 Gathering in Chengdu, China as spotted by Eric98k at Reddit. First off, there are no plans for Sapphire for a non-reference Radeon VII, which kinda makes sense so shortly before NAVI, neither was it expected.
However, confirmed to be released for NAVI is a water-cooled Poison Toxic. Toxic for Vega was canceled due to restricted margins. AMD seems to be tackling two price points for NAVI, one is priced at $499 and the other is $399, let's call them PRO and XT GPU versions for now.
The top model NAVI would be competing with and should be stronger than a GTX 2070. In the artciel, they deny the existence of a so-called “Big Navi” with 5120SP. Navi would be presented at Computex on May 27th, and the launch date is July 7th.
Take it all with a grain of salt and some disclaimers, please.
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#5671522 Posted on: 05/21/2019 05:04 PM
I hear ya. I could never justify buying a 2080Ti. A 2080 is 4K-ready if you just turn off AA. Depending on the size of your display, you probably wouldn't notice AA being off anyway, though, I'm sure some purists here will vehemently disagree.
I too would hope the post-GCN cards will be what we're looking for but knowing their development rate, that's just way too far away, and that includes mature drivers.
On the note of those chiplet-based GPUs, I'd like to see if that breathes new life into mGPU setups, where you can basically just keep adding as many core clusters as you want and it will scale appropriately. So to start with, you could have AIBs where their performance is basically determined by how many core clusters they have and how much VRAM they have. Then, there could be absurd Crossfire setups where you've got PCIe x1 or M.2 cards with only a single core cluster that act as a mini performance boost. I'm not keeping my hopes up that will happen, but I think it'd be pretty cool to be able to incrementally add performance like that.
I dont think we'll be seeing multi-card setups outside of the industrial/research space anymore.
On the other hand, it does mean we could see maybe 16 chiplets (or more) on a single board (with HBM).
I look forward to our new chiplet overlords
I hear ya. I could never justify buying a 2080Ti. A 2080 is 4K-ready if you just turn off AA. Depending on the size of your display, you probably wouldn't notice AA being off anyway, though, I'm sure some purists here will vehemently disagree.
I too would hope the post-GCN cards will be what we're looking for but knowing their development rate, that's just way too far away, and that includes mature drivers.
On the note of those chiplet-based GPUs, I'd like to see if that breathes new life into mGPU setups, where you can basically just keep adding as many core clusters as you want and it will scale appropriately. So to start with, you could have AIBs where their performance is basically determined by how many core clusters they have and how much VRAM they have. Then, there could be absurd Crossfire setups where you've got PCIe x1 or M.2 cards with only a single core cluster that act as a mini performance boost. I'm not keeping my hopes up that will happen, but I think it'd be pretty cool to be able to incrementally add performance like that.
I dont think we'll be seeing multi-card setups outside of the industrial/research space anymore.
On the other hand, it does mean we could see maybe 16 chiplets (or more) on a single board (with HBM).
I look forward to our new chiplet overlords
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#5671523 Posted on: 05/21/2019 05:07 PM
I like pulling for AMD but if they don't push the GPU market forward then Im likely getting whatever Nvidia puts out on 7nm. Still holding onto my GTX 1070 and my 2k monitor which is actually doing pretty well. I did have an ati 9700 pro and an ATI 5870 which at the time they were better than anything Nvidia offered albeit the 5870's dominance was very short lived. Hopefully next week we can get some details on big Navi or whatever they will call it.
I like pulling for AMD but if they don't push the GPU market forward then Im likely getting whatever Nvidia puts out on 7nm. Still holding onto my GTX 1070 and my 2k monitor which is actually doing pretty well. I did have an ati 9700 pro and an ATI 5870 which at the time they were better than anything Nvidia offered albeit the 5870's dominance was very short lived. Hopefully next week we can get some details on big Navi or whatever they will call it.
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#5671524 Posted on: 05/21/2019 05:07 PM
If it comes out for 500 and performs similarly to a 2070 it's dead in the water day one.
I have been holding onto my rx 580 for a while, just to get a NAVI and if it's so slow and pricey and as we know HOT AS HELL, thank you, but no thank you.
If it comes out for 500 and performs similarly to a 2070 it's dead in the water day one.
I have been holding onto my rx 580 for a while, just to get a NAVI and if it's so slow and pricey and as we know HOT AS HELL, thank you, but no thank you.
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#5671526 Posted on: 05/21/2019 05:15 PM
Haha i'm pretty much like you the last two ATI/AMD GPU i owned is a 9800 pro (flashed to XT with a custom cooler) and a 5850. The 9800 pro flashed to XT remains one of the best card i ever owned. Like you said the 5850/5870 price to performance "dominance" was short lived but it was still a very good card and from that i can remember it was not running hot at all.
I own a 1070 too and while it's okay at 2k144Hz most of the time it's a little bit on the not powerful enough side. I wish i could upgrade. The 2070 has come down in price and at the current price i could justify it (the launch price was totally ridiculous and i still have not digested it) but just to make a statement with my wallet if Navi is not good enough i'll wait for the next nVidia lineup i wont touch the RTX cards.
I like pulling for AMD but if they don't push the GPU market forward then Im likely getting whatever Nvidia puts out on 7nm. Still holding onto my GTX 1070 and my 2k monitor which is actually doing pretty well. I did have an ati 9700 pro and an ATI 5870 which at the time they were better than anything Nvidia offered albeit the 5870's dominance was very short lived. Hopefully next week we can get some details on big Navi or whatever they will call it.
Haha i'm pretty much like you the last two ATI/AMD GPU i owned is a 9800 pro (flashed to XT with a custom cooler) and a 5850. The 9800 pro flashed to XT remains one of the best card i ever owned. Like you said the 5850/5870 price to performance "dominance" was short lived but it was still a very good card and from that i can remember it was not running hot at all.
I own a 1070 too and while it's okay at 2k144Hz most of the time it's a little bit on the not powerful enough side. I wish i could upgrade. The 2070 has come down in price and at the current price i could justify it (the launch price was totally ridiculous and i still have not digested it) but just to make a statement with my wallet if Navi is not good enough i'll wait for the next nVidia lineup i wont touch the RTX cards.
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They can ask Sapphire to fire the person who leaked it which is what I suspect will occur.