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Sapphire Releases Custom RX Vega 64 and RX Vega 56 Nitro+
Sapphire Launched custom Radeon RX Vega 64 and RX Vega 56 models, the Nitro + Limited Editions come with big coolers, BIOS options and are roughly 7% overclocked.
The difference between the reference cards and the Nitro++series is mainly to be found in cooling. They run much softer and lower in temperatures. Sapphire uses a three fan cooler, the middle one weirdly enough turning in the opposite direction compared to the other two? It has six heatpipes. It has not one, not two, nor Sirreeeh ... it has three 8-pin PEG connections. Sapphire offers two BIOS modes, one an overclock mode and the other an energy-saving mode, this last one does make the card a notch slower by reducing lower consumption. Here the power limiter simply is lowered.
ComputerBase tested the card and indeed it shows that the cooling is an improvement over the reference model, its ten degrees cooler, with a rated 37 dB (A) noise level. On OC modus you'll see roughly 7 % additional performance seen from the reference design. The recommended retail price of the Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX Vega 56 Limited Edition is rather steep, at 579 euros in Germany.
SAPPHIRE Radeon RX Vega 64 NITRO caught on photo and gets tested - 11/13/2017 05:09 PM
It's been topic of weeks of discussion, when will the Vega 56 and 64 custom card get out. Albeit we tested the ASUS one already (here), some new photos surfaced of a SAPPHIRE Radeon RX Vega 64 NITRO...
SAPPHIRE Announces Radeon RX Vega 64 - 08/01/2017 11:23 AM
Sapphire has announced the launch of the much-anticipated Radeon Vega 64enthusiast graphics cards. The Vega architecture boasts significant improvements focused on maximizing the performance. ...
Sapphire Radeon RX Vega 64 Card SKU names surface - 07/27/2017 04:39 PM
Website elchapuzasinformatico in the past has been pretty spot on with information that should not be out there. This round they apparently stumbled into three Sapphire Radeon RX Vega cards....
Sapphire Adds Radeon RX 560 PULSE to Lineup - 05/19/2017 07:23 AM
Sapphire has added its Radeon RX 560 PULSE to their Lineup. The card series is slowly getting available and reached the amrket in that $100 price segment....
BYKSKI Offers Waterblock for Sapphire RX580 NITRO+ - 05/10/2017 08:54 AM
Asia region based BYKSKI released the A-SP58PLAT-X water block for Sapphire RX580 NITRO+ edition. The A-SP58PLAT-X full cover water block is based on pure copper of the metal part....
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#5501840 Posted on: 12/16/2017 11:01 AM
Sadly not FPS. Still pales in comparison to 1080Ti even at high resolutions.
Vega 56 with three power connectors? I reckon it comes with a built-in laser cannon to use all that power.
Sadly not FPS. Still pales in comparison to 1080Ti even at high resolutions.
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#5501841 Posted on: 12/16/2017 11:09 AM
yes but they are on 1070 (ti or not) step...
Sadly not FPS. Still pales in comparison to 1080Ti even at high resolutions.
yes but they are on 1070 (ti or not) step...
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#5501907 Posted on: 12/16/2017 04:12 PM
£750 for the Nitro+ 64 here in the UK, can get the much faster 1080 Ti cheaper, and the 56 is £560, which is more than the faster 1080, rediculous pricing.
£750 for the Nitro+ 64 here in the UK, can get the much faster 1080 Ti cheaper, and the 56 is £560, which is more than the faster 1080, rediculous pricing.
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#5501923 Posted on: 12/16/2017 05:22 PM
Very impressive noise reduction - massive noise reduction - in comparison to reference Vega, and that's while increasing performance too!
Very impressive noise reduction - massive noise reduction - in comparison to reference Vega, and that's while increasing performance too!
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#5501927 Posted on: 12/16/2017 05:30 PM
Did you seriously try to compare the vega56 to a 1080ti.
That is so ignorant that you are either a moronic nvidiot fanboy or just not smart at all............
Good thing about 3 PCIE connectors, miner assholes might leave this card alone so we can actually buy them.
Did people forget EVGA FTW 580 3gbs had 3x PCIE, and there are more recent nvidia cards that due too.
I swear, people for what ever damn reason, follow the sheople trend to hate AMD for any reason possible.
For anyone who wants AMD or has freesync, even on a fury X, the Vega 56 is a nice upgrade. People act like it is the HD 2900 launch or something.
Guess people want 2006-2008 all over again. That was absolutely horrible GPU time frame. And nvidiot fanboys were bad back then before social media and game works.
The prices of these cards are really not AMD or AIB fault. I even have a feeling they are pricing them high initially so these miner c****s dont buy them. This is way worse then the 290x launch and rape of the HD 7950/70s for mining as well.
Sadly not FPS. Still pales in comparison to 1080Ti even at high resolutions.
Did you seriously try to compare the vega56 to a 1080ti.
That is so ignorant that you are either a moronic nvidiot fanboy or just not smart at all............
Good thing about 3 PCIE connectors, miner assholes might leave this card alone so we can actually buy them.
Did people forget EVGA FTW 580 3gbs had 3x PCIE, and there are more recent nvidia cards that due too.
I swear, people for what ever damn reason, follow the sheople trend to hate AMD for any reason possible.
For anyone who wants AMD or has freesync, even on a fury X, the Vega 56 is a nice upgrade. People act like it is the HD 2900 launch or something.
Guess people want 2006-2008 all over again. That was absolutely horrible GPU time frame. And nvidiot fanboys were bad back then before social media and game works.
The prices of these cards are really not AMD or AIB fault. I even have a feeling they are pricing them high initially so these miner c****s dont buy them. This is way worse then the 290x launch and rape of the HD 7950/70s for mining as well.
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#5501940 Posted on: 12/16/2017 06:21 PM
Did you seriously try to compare the vega56 to a 1080ti.
That is so ignorant that you are either a moronic nvidiot fanboy or just not smart at all............
They are comparable in price so it's comparable.
Nitro is 580 euros, more than I paid for my Ti
Did you seriously try to compare the vega56 to a 1080ti.
That is so ignorant that you are either a moronic nvidiot fanboy or just not smart at all............
They are comparable in price so it's comparable.
Nitro is 580 euros, more than I paid for my Ti
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#5501957 Posted on: 12/16/2017 07:20 PM
Did you seriously try to compare the vega56 to a 1080ti.
That is so ignorant that you are either a moronic nvidiot fanboy or just not smart at all............
Well as Agent-A01 said you can compare it by a reasonable factor: price.
Ppl buying this GPU (at this price) must be ignorant or AMD fanboy or just not smart at all or simply had chosen to tie themselves to AMD GPUs buying a freesync monitor because it costs less than gsync ones.
"Chained" ppl to freesync monitors can "enjoy" the minor price they paid compared to Gsync monitor, playing at less FPS with a more expensive GPU.(!?!)
I'll wait until HDMI 2.1 enabled monitors and TV will be released to buy a new monitor AND GPU.
Adaptive sync enforced in standard will end this freesync/gsync war.
Hopefully by 3Q 2018.
Did you seriously try to compare the vega56 to a 1080ti.
That is so ignorant that you are either a moronic nvidiot fanboy or just not smart at all............
Well as Agent-A01 said you can compare it by a reasonable factor: price.
Ppl buying this GPU (at this price) must be ignorant or AMD fanboy or just not smart at all or simply had chosen to tie themselves to AMD GPUs buying a freesync monitor because it costs less than gsync ones.
"Chained" ppl to freesync monitors can "enjoy" the minor price they paid compared to Gsync monitor, playing at less FPS with a more expensive GPU.(!?!)
I'll wait until HDMI 2.1 enabled monitors and TV will be released to buy a new monitor AND GPU.
Adaptive sync enforced in standard will end this freesync/gsync war.
Hopefully by 3Q 2018.
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#5502024 Posted on: 12/17/2017 12:42 AM
Well as Agent-A01 said you can compare it by a reasonable factor: price.
Ppl buying this GPU (at this price) must be ignorant or AMD fanboy or just not smart at all or simply had chosen to tie themselves to AMD GPUs buying a freesync monitor because it costs less than gsync ones.
"Chained" ppl to freesync monitors can "enjoy" the minor price they paid compared to Gsync monitor, playing at less FPS with a more expensive GPU.(!?!)
I'll wait until HDMI 2.1 enabled monitors and TV will be released to buy a new monitor AND GPU.
Adaptive sync enforced in standard will end this freesync/gsync war.
Hopefully by 3Q 2018.
Sadly nothing will ever be standard if Nvidia has anything to say.
They want everything to be their standard.
Well as Agent-A01 said you can compare it by a reasonable factor: price.
Ppl buying this GPU (at this price) must be ignorant or AMD fanboy or just not smart at all or simply had chosen to tie themselves to AMD GPUs buying a freesync monitor because it costs less than gsync ones.
"Chained" ppl to freesync monitors can "enjoy" the minor price they paid compared to Gsync monitor, playing at less FPS with a more expensive GPU.(!?!)
I'll wait until HDMI 2.1 enabled monitors and TV will be released to buy a new monitor AND GPU.
Adaptive sync enforced in standard will end this freesync/gsync war.
Hopefully by 3Q 2018.
Sadly nothing will ever be standard if Nvidia has anything to say.
They want everything to be their standard.
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#5502025 Posted on: 12/17/2017 12:52 AM
Sadly nothing will ever be standard if Nvidia has anything to say.
They want everything to be their standard.
HDMI 2.1 make variable frame rate mandatory in the standard:
The new HDMI 2.1 standard also canonizes variable refresh into an official HDMI standard. This has grown from AMD's previous efforts in the field, where the company added FreeSync variable refresh to HDMI as a proprietary extension. As we've seen in FreeSync and G-Sync over the last few years, variable refresh technology eliminates tearing and greatly reduces stuttering, allowing for smoother gameplay. The addition of variable refresh to the official HDMI standard means that the benefits of the technology can now be brought to a much wider range of products and content.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12095/hdmi-21-specification-released
It's not some optional HDMI standard extension only AMD freesync labeled monitors use right now.
Sadly nothing will ever be standard if Nvidia has anything to say.
They want everything to be their standard.
HDMI 2.1 make variable frame rate mandatory in the standard:
The new HDMI 2.1 standard also canonizes variable refresh into an official HDMI standard. This has grown from AMD's previous efforts in the field, where the company added FreeSync variable refresh to HDMI as a proprietary extension. As we've seen in FreeSync and G-Sync over the last few years, variable refresh technology eliminates tearing and greatly reduces stuttering, allowing for smoother gameplay. The addition of variable refresh to the official HDMI standard means that the benefits of the technology can now be brought to a much wider range of products and content.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12095/hdmi-21-specification-released
It's not some optional HDMI standard extension only AMD freesync labeled monitors use right now.
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#5502028 Posted on: 12/17/2017 01:14 AM
HDMI 2.1 make variable frame rate mandatory in the standard:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12095/hdmi-21-specification-released
It's not some optional HDMI standard extension only AMD freesync labeled monitors use right now.
Well I am very glad to hear this. But still leaves doubts with Nvidia.
Though I don't still wanna support Nvidia. Its not fanboyism, I just hate Nvidia the past few years. The tragedy that I experienced trying to use 3 x21:9 with Nvidia and Win 10x64 was not fun. Everything worked right of the box when I sold my GTX 970 sli off and got 2x R9 290s.
Nvidia still sucks when using different monitors for surround and using DVI-D on Win 10 and even Win 7 x64 with 21:9. Works no issue ironically on my HD 5770 crossfire though even on Win 7 X64.
HDMI 2.1 make variable frame rate mandatory in the standard:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12095/hdmi-21-specification-released
It's not some optional HDMI standard extension only AMD freesync labeled monitors use right now.
Well I am very glad to hear this. But still leaves doubts with Nvidia.
Though I don't still wanna support Nvidia. Its not fanboyism, I just hate Nvidia the past few years. The tragedy that I experienced trying to use 3 x21:9 with Nvidia and Win 10x64 was not fun. Everything worked right of the box when I sold my GTX 970 sli off and got 2x R9 290s.
Nvidia still sucks when using different monitors for surround and using DVI-D on Win 10 and even Win 7 x64 with 21:9. Works no issue ironically on my HD 5770 crossfire though even on Win 7 X64.
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#5502040 Posted on: 12/17/2017 02:28 AM
I have no doubt Nvidia will make his best to sell more GPUs for GAMERS and get his share from Gsync monitors sold to GAMERS.
When HDMI 2.1 monitors will be available it will obviously benefit Nvidia more than AMD: free sync tech for all gamers will expose even more the lack of performance per dollar using AMD GPUs in a PC gaming setup.
AMD drivers team put an extra effort in niche features and mining support, Nvidia drivers provide the performance and the features the major part of his GAMERS customers need.
Take a look at the new AMD drivers: Connect tab and fancy backgrounds 2.0.
It's enterely AMD faults if Vega can't compete in performance AND/OR price with Nvidia pascal (56 vs 1070ti, 64 vs 1080) been 1 year later to the party.
Blind tests comparing gaming experience from a cheaper FreeSync monitor with an AMD Vega VS a Gsync monitor with a Pascal both at 60 Hz (or 100 Hz) locked is not going to increase AMD GAMING GPU market share, only competitive performance AND prices will do.
We need competition (performance AND price) from AMD gaming GPUs not PR stunts, fancy connectors/backgrounds and mining love.
Well I am very glad to hear this. But still leaves doubts with Nvidia.
I have no doubt Nvidia will make his best to sell more GPUs for GAMERS and get his share from Gsync monitors sold to GAMERS.
When HDMI 2.1 monitors will be available it will obviously benefit Nvidia more than AMD: free sync tech for all gamers will expose even more the lack of performance per dollar using AMD GPUs in a PC gaming setup.
AMD drivers team put an extra effort in niche features and mining support, Nvidia drivers provide the performance and the features the major part of his GAMERS customers need.
Take a look at the new AMD drivers: Connect tab and fancy backgrounds 2.0.
It's enterely AMD faults if Vega can't compete in performance AND/OR price with Nvidia pascal (56 vs 1070ti, 64 vs 1080) been 1 year later to the party.
Blind tests comparing gaming experience from a cheaper FreeSync monitor with an AMD Vega VS a Gsync monitor with a Pascal both at 60 Hz (or 100 Hz) locked is not going to increase AMD GAMING GPU market share, only competitive performance AND prices will do.
We need competition (performance AND price) from AMD gaming GPUs not PR stunts, fancy connectors/backgrounds and mining love.
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#5502041 Posted on: 12/17/2017 02:51 AM
I have no doubt Nvidia will make his best to sell more GPUs for GAMERS and get his share from Gsync monitors sold to GAMERS.
When HDMI 2.1 monitors will be available it will obviously benefit Nvidia more than AMD: free sync tech for all gamers will expose even more the lack of performance per dollar using AMD GPUs in a PC gaming setup.
AMD drivers team put an extra effort in niche features and mining support, Nvidia drivers provide the performance and the features the major part of his GAMERS customers need.
Take a look at the new AMD drivers: Connect tab and fancy backgrounds 2.0.
It's enterely AMD faults if Vega can't compete in performance AND/OR price with Nvidia pascal (56 vs 1070ti, 64 vs 1080) been 1 year later to the party.
Blind tests comparing gaming experience from a cheaper FreeSync monitor with an AMD Vega VS a Gsync monitor with a Pascal both at 60 Hz (or 100 Hz) locked is not going to increase AMD GAMING GPU market share, only competitive performance AND prices will do.
We need competition (performance AND price) from AMD gaming GPUs not PR stunts, fancy connectors/backgrounds and mining love.
Well as a Freesync user, its far better then no freesync or gsync. Ive used both. And I have turned off freesync, and just used enhanced sync. Its not as good. You can ramble on all you want, but the drivers are on point with AMD. Its not just social media crap they add. The drivers are rather easy to navigate compared to the old drivers, and are very fast and responsive. I cringe when I need to open NCP and set things on my server. PR stunts is something AMD does need sadly. There are people who bllindly believe due to forums, and fanboy friends that AMD is complete garbage for gaming when it is far from the case. Game works did wonders to fuel that nonsense.
The fact you can toggle ichill, Frame rate cap, and even freesync in game now with the overlay, is just bitching. Period. Nvidia can not do that kinda crap with geforce experience, which I use on my server.
I fully agree that AMD needs to bring better gpus to market, but the nvidia fanboys, and miners are ruining that for AMD users. I do agree at times, AMD shoot themselves in the foot. Saying the Fury X was an overclockers dream was very stupid. But once drivers got right, the fury x ripped. I still miss mine. I prefer AMD due to their drivers as of the past few years. NCP is a damn joke. Even on a 960 evo, they are rather slow. The fact I need NCP and geforce experience to the same as AMDs drivers says alot to me. Other then game streaming to a device, AMD isnt lacking really much beyond raw GPU power now. But if people dont actually support them beyond miners,, they cant deliver can they either.
I have no doubt Nvidia will make his best to sell more GPUs for GAMERS and get his share from Gsync monitors sold to GAMERS.
When HDMI 2.1 monitors will be available it will obviously benefit Nvidia more than AMD: free sync tech for all gamers will expose even more the lack of performance per dollar using AMD GPUs in a PC gaming setup.
AMD drivers team put an extra effort in niche features and mining support, Nvidia drivers provide the performance and the features the major part of his GAMERS customers need.
Take a look at the new AMD drivers: Connect tab and fancy backgrounds 2.0.
It's enterely AMD faults if Vega can't compete in performance AND/OR price with Nvidia pascal (56 vs 1070ti, 64 vs 1080) been 1 year later to the party.
Blind tests comparing gaming experience from a cheaper FreeSync monitor with an AMD Vega VS a Gsync monitor with a Pascal both at 60 Hz (or 100 Hz) locked is not going to increase AMD GAMING GPU market share, only competitive performance AND prices will do.
We need competition (performance AND price) from AMD gaming GPUs not PR stunts, fancy connectors/backgrounds and mining love.
Well as a Freesync user, its far better then no freesync or gsync. Ive used both. And I have turned off freesync, and just used enhanced sync. Its not as good. You can ramble on all you want, but the drivers are on point with AMD. Its not just social media crap they add. The drivers are rather easy to navigate compared to the old drivers, and are very fast and responsive. I cringe when I need to open NCP and set things on my server. PR stunts is something AMD does need sadly. There are people who bllindly believe due to forums, and fanboy friends that AMD is complete garbage for gaming when it is far from the case. Game works did wonders to fuel that nonsense.
The fact you can toggle ichill, Frame rate cap, and even freesync in game now with the overlay, is just bitching. Period. Nvidia can not do that kinda crap with geforce experience, which I use on my server.
I fully agree that AMD needs to bring better gpus to market, but the nvidia fanboys, and miners are ruining that for AMD users. I do agree at times, AMD shoot themselves in the foot. Saying the Fury X was an overclockers dream was very stupid. But once drivers got right, the fury x ripped. I still miss mine. I prefer AMD due to their drivers as of the past few years. NCP is a damn joke. Even on a 960 evo, they are rather slow. The fact I need NCP and geforce experience to the same as AMDs drivers says alot to me. Other then game streaming to a device, AMD isnt lacking really much beyond raw GPU power now. But if people dont actually support them beyond miners,, they cant deliver can they either.
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#5502046 Posted on: 12/17/2017 03:02 AM
Miners and gamers look for the same: performance.
Miners "support" AMD because they get mining performance.They don't buy more expensive AMD GPUs because they love the brand.
When gamers can get gaming performance from AMD GPUs they will "support" it too.
But if people dont actually support them beyond miners,, they cant deliver can they either.
Miners and gamers look for the same: performance.
Miners "support" AMD because they get mining performance.They don't buy more expensive AMD GPUs because they love the brand.
When gamers can get gaming performance from AMD GPUs they will "support" it too.
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#5502056 Posted on: 12/17/2017 04:03 AM
Miners and gamers look for the same: performance.
Miners "support" AMD because they get mining performance.They don't buy more expensive AMD GPUs because they love the brand.
When gamers can get gaming performance from AMD GPUs they will "support" it too.
They dont just look for performance, but value as well. Most nvidia fans are obsessed with raw performance numbers, even ones with 1080p 60hz screens. The obsession with Nvidia dropping stupidly expsensive titan cards and that people buy them and how popular they even are shows this. Honestly most AMD users look for value, and once again you like many fail to remember this forum is not the average user base of gamers, were all high end for the most part.
AMD will never do anything right in GPU market, even if they did. Its a trendy thing to always hate on AMD.
They pushed really hard to bring something good but ended up short with Vega. It shows, but I think things would be different if gamers could actually buy the damn cards.
Its terrible in the US to try and even get one before they are gone in minutes and assholes put them on ebay for stupid high prices.
AMD does well in the mid range. RX 470/RX 480 etc bracket. Nvidia still sucks there. Always bringing crippled cards in that area. AMD did fail in the RX 460/560 in my opinion. I had an unlocked RX 460 4GB and it was kinda slow for the price point vs the GTX 1050ti.
Miners and gamers look for the same: performance.
Miners "support" AMD because they get mining performance.They don't buy more expensive AMD GPUs because they love the brand.
When gamers can get gaming performance from AMD GPUs they will "support" it too.
They dont just look for performance, but value as well. Most nvidia fans are obsessed with raw performance numbers, even ones with 1080p 60hz screens. The obsession with Nvidia dropping stupidly expsensive titan cards and that people buy them and how popular they even are shows this. Honestly most AMD users look for value, and once again you like many fail to remember this forum is not the average user base of gamers, were all high end for the most part.
AMD will never do anything right in GPU market, even if they did. Its a trendy thing to always hate on AMD.
They pushed really hard to bring something good but ended up short with Vega. It shows, but I think things would be different if gamers could actually buy the damn cards.
Its terrible in the US to try and even get one before they are gone in minutes and assholes put them on ebay for stupid high prices.
AMD does well in the mid range. RX 470/RX 480 etc bracket. Nvidia still sucks there. Always bringing crippled cards in that area. AMD did fail in the RX 460/560 in my opinion. I had an unlocked RX 460 4GB and it was kinda slow for the price point vs the GTX 1050ti.
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Vega 56 with three power connectors? I reckon it comes with a built-in laser cannon to use all that power.