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Website elchapuzasinformatico in the past has been pretty spot on with information that should not be out there. This round they apparently stumbled into three Sapphire Radeon RX Vega cards.
From what we can derrive from the information, there will be two cooling solutions for Vega cards, liquid (LCS) and obviously air-cooled ones. Sapphire seems to be releasing three models:
- SAPPHIRE RADEON RX VEGA 64 8G HBM2 HDMI + TRIPLE DP, LIQUID COOLING 2048-bits - Water Cooler
- SAPPHIRE RADEON RX VEGA 64 8G HBM2 HDMI + TRIPLE DP LIMITED EDITION 2048-bit - 2 slot active
- SAPPHIRE RADEON RX VEGA 64 8G HBM2 HDMI + TRIPLE DP 2048-bit - 2 slot active
The Limited edition probably is a higher clocked edition. We cannot really verify this information whatsoever, however it would make no sense to make up naming like that. RadeoN RX Vega 64.If you think that "64" suffix is a little weird, it isn't really when you think about it. A full Vega chip has 64 shader processor clusters with 64 shader processors each = 4096 shader processors.
There is more info though, El Chapuzas mentions a 699 Euro and 899 Euro pricing in-between the cheapest and that liquid cooled edition. That would be ex VAT here in the EU with prices roughly similar in USD. El Chapuzas states that their source is reliable. As always take news like this with a grain of salt, but looking at the naming schema, it would not surprize me if it is correct.
AMD will make formal announcements next week.
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#5456219 Posted on: 07/27/2017 05:57 PM
If that hold true we are going to have to talk a few users on here off a ledge.
Seriously though even if they are not competing with Ti from the start AMD has to price around here considering the cost of making Vega (including R&D and legacy cost).
If that hold true we are going to have to talk a few users on here off a ledge.
Seriously though even if they are not competing with Ti from the start AMD has to price around here considering the cost of making Vega (including R&D and legacy cost).
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#5456223 Posted on: 07/27/2017 06:08 PM
Historically, AMD has never targeted nv pricing unless it was competitive to nv offerings. Also, they've been known to sandbag. If this holds out to be true and it's determined that it's competitive to a ti then some (new) feature(s) have been disabled. And won't be enabled until either the review drivers are released or a driver sometime after review drivers.
Right now, 17.7.2 (newly release driver for AMD) is the 1st driver that doesn't work properly with AB and GPUz. So it stands to reason this is some sort of new branch driver.
We will see
Historically, AMD has never targeted nv pricing unless it was competitive to nv offerings. Also, they've been known to sandbag. If this holds out to be true and it's determined that it's competitive to a ti then some (new) feature(s) have been disabled. And won't be enabled until either the review drivers are released or a driver sometime after review drivers.
Right now, 17.7.2 (newly release driver for AMD) is the 1st driver that doesn't work properly with AB and GPUz. So it stands to reason this is some sort of new branch driver.
We will see
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#5456226 Posted on: 07/27/2017 06:14 PM
I'm buying it anyway. The fine wine has treated me very well. Its been the opposite from the green team on my last two purchases. Not trying to be biased. Just my own anecdotal experiences but I feel like my Nvidia cards would be screaming one year but as soon as the new cards come out it can no longer handle new games. I know this is more of a conspiracy theory but i think there is some sort of planned obsolescence by nature in Nvidia's unified driver.
I'm buying it anyway. The fine wine has treated me very well. Its been the opposite from the green team on my last two purchases. Not trying to be biased. Just my own anecdotal experiences but I feel like my Nvidia cards would be screaming one year but as soon as the new cards come out it can no longer handle new games. I know this is more of a conspiracy theory but i think there is some sort of planned obsolescence by nature in Nvidia's unified driver.
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#5456293 Posted on: 07/27/2017 09:15 PM
Geez, they will rule a fair few people out. It would have to be faster or at the very least match the 1080Ti to justify that. Hopefully that pricing is wrong.
$815.07 u.s. Wow!
Geez, they will rule a fair few people out. It would have to be faster or at the very least match the 1080Ti to justify that. Hopefully that pricing is wrong.
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#5456295 Posted on: 07/27/2017 09:17 PM
With AIO cooling wasn't expecting any miracle.
But asking 700 bucks for 1080 performance level which costs about 550 is only appealing to those who invested in freesync.
With AIO cooling wasn't expecting any miracle.
But asking 700 bucks for 1080 performance level which costs about 550 is only appealing to those who invested in freesync.
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#5456298 Posted on: 07/27/2017 09:22 PM
With AIO cooling wasn't expecting any miracle.
But asking 700 bucks for 1080 performance level which costs about 550 is only appealing to those who invested in freesync.
I don't think that price is appealing to anyone.
With AIO cooling wasn't expecting any miracle.
But asking 700 bucks for 1080 performance level which costs about 550 is only appealing to those who invested in freesync.
I don't think that price is appealing to anyone.
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#5456301 Posted on: 07/27/2017 09:28 PM
So... it costs as much as a 1080 Ti which is supposedly faster and has been out forever. Okay AMD.
So... it costs as much as a 1080 Ti which is supposedly faster and has been out forever. Okay AMD.
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#5456304 Posted on: 07/27/2017 09:35 PM
Geez, they will rule a fair few people out. It would have to be faster or at the very least match the 1080Ti to justify that. Hopefully that pricing is wrong.
I hope so to. I used the most recent (todays) Euro to U.S. Dollar exchange rate to get what price it would be here in the states. Still very expensive and I don't see very many people buying them if that's going to be the cost of them here in the states. Only ATI fanboys would buy them at that price.
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#5456305 Posted on: 07/27/2017 09:37 PM
Savings to be made on the Freesync screen though lol.
Seriously though, if your wanting a high end card/screen combination then Vega could work.
If you already have a Freesync screen, and were looking forward to a good upgrade that wouldn't cost too much then it's a massive disappointment.
Suppose there is the fact that nothing has been confirmed, but even the official AMD information is suggesting that price is accurate.
Savings to be made on the Freesync screen though lol.
Seriously though, if your wanting a high end card/screen combination then Vega could work.
If you already have a Freesync screen, and were looking forward to a good upgrade that wouldn't cost too much then it's a massive disappointment.
Suppose there is the fact that nothing has been confirmed, but even the official AMD information is suggesting that price is accurate.
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#5456306 Posted on: 07/27/2017 09:40 PM
I know this is rumours and all, but I've seen this kind of pricing two times now on the web. This kind of worries me. I understand that the production cost is high, but if these rumours are indeed true, then you will be paying 1080ti money for something that performs on (maybe slightly higher) 1080 level. It just doesn't make sense, and doesn't justify itself. The whole advantage of freesync monitors will be undone if the price of the corresponding GPU will be 200 euro's higher than Nvidia's counterpart.
I was hoping for a more reasonable pricing... Still lets wait untill they reveal the details and pricing and wait for a review or two. I still can't wait for this thing to come out though.
I know this is rumours and all, but I've seen this kind of pricing two times now on the web. This kind of worries me. I understand that the production cost is high, but if these rumours are indeed true, then you will be paying 1080ti money for something that performs on (maybe slightly higher) 1080 level. It just doesn't make sense, and doesn't justify itself. The whole advantage of freesync monitors will be undone if the price of the corresponding GPU will be 200 euro's higher than Nvidia's counterpart.
I was hoping for a more reasonable pricing... Still lets wait untill they reveal the details and pricing and wait for a review or two. I still can't wait for this thing to come out though.
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#5456307 Posted on: 07/27/2017 09:44 PM
I'm Spanish and in live in Spain as the article says including taxes (21%) and distributors margin (very conservative amount) the cheaper model will cost 750 euros and the watercooled model will cost 960 euros.
If somebody thought Nvidia raped his wallet with outrageous prices, this is AMD gangbang raping your wallet.
I'm Spanish and in live in Spain as the article says including taxes (21%) and distributors margin (very conservative amount) the cheaper model will cost 750 euros and the watercooled model will cost 960 euros.
If somebody thought Nvidia raped his wallet with outrageous prices, this is AMD gangbang raping your wallet.
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#5456309 Posted on: 07/27/2017 09:49 PM
A-ha-ha-ha! Awesome prices!
Anything between 699 Euro and 899 Euro is just so cool.
vbetts, do you think I again overstepped your tolerance?
Don't you also think these prices are awesome?
A-ha-ha-ha! Awesome prices!
Anything between 699 Euro and 899 Euro is just so cool.
vbetts, do you think I again overstepped your tolerance?
Don't you also think these prices are awesome?
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#5456310 Posted on: 07/27/2017 09:51 PM
I just hoped for a bit more of a competition.
I just hoped for a bit more of a competition.
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#5456351 Posted on: 07/27/2017 11:42 PM
I suspect a reason for the higher than assumed prices could be due to low production volume, if you can't make enough cards to meet the demand at 400-600$ why bother pricing it there.
If i recall correctly The fury X had very low production volume for the first 2-3 months.
I suspect a reason for the higher than assumed prices could be due to low production volume, if you can't make enough cards to meet the demand at 400-600$ why bother pricing it there.
If i recall correctly The fury X had very low production volume for the first 2-3 months.
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$815.07 U.S. Wow!