SAPPHIRE Announces Radeon RX Vega 64

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 08/01/2017 12:23 PM | source: | 19 comment(s)

Sapphire has announced the launch of the much-anticipated Radeon Vega 64enthusiast graphics cards. The Vega architecture boasts significant improvements focused on maximizing the performance.

Vega cards are designed for enthusiasts seeking top-of-the-chart framerates in games of today and tomorrow – in Ultra details and VR.

SAPPHIRE Technology is introducing three Vega-powered models:

SAPPHIRE Radeon RX Vega 64 8GB HBM2 Liquid Cooled
SAPPHIRE Radeon RX Vega 64 8GB HBM2
SAPPHIRE Radeon RX Vega 64 8GB HBM2 Limited Edition

ega is a major evolution of the Radeon graphics architecture, with innovations across multiple core fronts of the silicon. New GPUs feature a High Bandwidth Cache and memory controllers remove the capacity limitations of traditional GPU memory. Thanks to automatic, fine-grained memory movement controlled by the high-bandwidth cache controller, new architecture enables access to much larger, more detailed assets. Vega GPU utilizes HBM2, the latest in graphics memory technology, to provide incredible levels of power efficiency and memory performance.

RTG engineers also equipped Vega chips with Next-Gen Compute units. This translates to higher possible clock speeds, better throughput and double the peak polygon per clock handled by the engine (vs R9 Fury X). The Pixel Engine also received a Next-Gen makeover, boosting the shading performance especially vital for gaming. Significant advancements were made to the geometry engine as well.

Gaming performance

SAPPHIRE Radeon RX Vega 64 graphics cards are the new high-end models of the Radeon family, we know you’ve been waiting for. The time has finally come to showcase the performance of Vega in the most important category of software on the planet: Games. Spoiler: it’s fast. Like, Ultra-details and VR Premium-fast!

Specifications

	SAPPHIRE Radeon RX Vega 64 8GB HBM2 and 8GB HBM2 Limited Edition	SAPPHIRE Radeon RX Vega 64 Liquid Cooled
Graphics Processor	Vega XT	Vega XTX
Base Clock	1247 MHz	1406 MHz
Boost Clock	1546 MHz	1677 MHz
Max Clock (DPM7)	1630 MHz	1750 MHz
Stream Processors	4096 (64 Compute Units)	4096 (64 Compute Units)
Memory Clock	945 MHz (1,9 Gbps)	945 MHz (1,9 Gbps)
Memory Size	8192 MB	8192 MB
Memory Type	HBM2	HBM2
Memory Bus	2048 bit	2048 bit
Cooler type	Air, Dual-Slot, Silver or Black design	Liquid + Radiator, Dual-Slot, Silver design
CrossFire Support	Bridgeless, up to 4 GPUs	Bridgeless, up to 4 GPUs
Display outputs	HDMI 2.0 (Type A) + 3x Display Port 1.4 (HBR3/HDR)	HDMI 2.0 (Type A) + 3x Display Port 1.4 (HBR3/HDR)

Availability

The new Vega 64 based SAPPHIRE graphics cards will be available to buy from August 14th.

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Humanoid_1
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#5457986 Posted on: 08/01/2017 05:24 PM

Vega FE was not the gaming card you were looking for. AMD really meant that because certain things on Vega FE were disabled but on RX Vega they are there and will boost performance. You cant really get an accurate idea of gaming performance from FE.

One such feature disabled on Vega FE is draw-stream binning rasterization (DBSR). DBSR is a tile-based pixel-shading/rendering approach where the GPU can render more complex pixels very efficiently relative to previous generations.

Vega also has a higher level of DX12 support than even Pascal so the fine wine strikes again. DX 11 support has added conservative rasterization which will help bridge the gap in those DX 11 titles with Nvidia.

Now this is not to even touch the increased clock speeds, HB2 improvements and the new memory management.

AMD is sandbagging hard with the blind tests because they know no matter what the performance somebody will try to marginalize it with FCAT. So they want to squash that immediately.

Thanks for some of that, of course in the back of my mind I had some of the experience from FE reviews, but I was mainly thinking of some of AMD's own RX (liquid cooled version I understand) slides comparing 99% min frame rates with the Fury X.
True that this is not a great way to judge the overall performance of a card, but it is still an indication that was somewhat lower than my expectations.

(Oh yea, there was also some gaming fps in BF1 slide too comparing the two cards):
BF1 1080p 104 vs 131 = 25.9%
BF1 1440p 81 vs 98 = 20.9%
BF1 2160p 41 vs 55 = 34.1%

Still, not long for real reviews now

mnemo05
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#5458128 Posted on: 08/02/2017 02:53 AM

cant wait for the reviews, wondering if my sf600 is enough to feed this power hungry card(atleast from what we can read online at this time)

if vega does require a 1000w psu, then AMD is going to alienate the entire sff community

or hopefully vega is good enough to force nvidia to cutdown their prices, then everybody wins =)

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#5458187 Posted on: 08/02/2017 07:50 AM

(Oh yea, there was also some gaming fps in BF1 slide too comparing the two cards):
BF1 1080p 104 vs 131 = 25.9%
BF1 1440p 81 vs 98 = 20.9%
BF1 2160p 41 vs 55 = 34.1%

Still, not long for real reviews now

4K is unfortunately moot as the minimum quote for most enthusiasts isn't anywhere close to being met. Sync techonlogies or none.

Surprisingly it is again however 4K where the card 'shines'. That power is not showing itself in 1080p/1440p. If the Fury is any indicator it may never really show up, either.

I may be interested in Vega 56 depending on what the reviews mid August reveal to us. I am however not expecting any wonders of magical 50% performance increase due drivers and features.

Well, if we're lucky the CU's aren't cut/defect either but simply disabled. Shader/CU unlocking in early batches of AMD cards isn't exactly too uncommon :nerd:

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#5458275 Posted on: 08/02/2017 12:35 PM

I am wondering if the Vega XT with a hybrid WC cooler and XTX bios can do the same as the stock WC edition?

I just don't like that stock air cooler (had 2x blower AMD GPUs) and it was super hot and loud at full load.

Me Too. I just don't like their 120mm radiator.
I already have a 240mm, 50mm thick radiator on my 290, and Its looking like I'll be just upgrading the GPU to a Vega 64.
I don't want to have to get the WC version, and dump the block and the pumps that I don't need/want.
And I'm not paying thru the arse for a custom card with WB already attached.

Reference model, and Full cover EK WB should do fine.

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#5458324 Posted on: 08/02/2017 02:51 PM

I noticed that too, I was really hoping Vega could get me good 60fps 4K performance.
The 1080Ti is pretty damn good for it, but even that is not fully there with demanding games.

I'm going to at least wait for rev 2 Vega with the faster HMB2. Memory overclocking was surprisingly effectie for Fury (X), maybe Vega will step it's game up with faster memory too...

Me Too. I just don't like their 120mm radiator.
I already have a 240mm, 50mm thick radiator on my 290, and Its looking like I'll be just upgrading the GPU to a Vega 64.
I don't want to have to get the WC version, and dump the block and the pumps that I don't need/want.
And I'm not paying thru the arse for a custom card with WB already attached.

Reference model, and Full cover EK WB should do fine.

I had planned to go water cooled GPU with the Fury, but I liked my Sapphire Fury Tri-X so much I stuck with its cooling solution. In my case with good airflow the fans almost never switch on during gaming (or even mining if the weather is not too hot) making it effectively passively cooled

Don't see that working out with Vega this time out though from what we are hearing lol

Will finally get to plumb a GPU into my 420x61mm rad which felt a bit overkill on only my CPU till now.

Here's to hoping they all OC equally !

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