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Samsung working on 16 terabyte SSD
During the Flash memory summit keynote, Samsung has been talking about a new 16 terabyte SSD that is in development. The storage unit will be based on a 2.5" form factor with SAS connectivity and new 48-layer TLC V-Nand memory.
Its now known how Samsung will be dealing with that many ICs, but its likely to assume that the storage unit will have multiple PCBs in one 2.5" casing. If you do some quick math, Samsung would need to place 480 256Gb V-NAND-dies into the unit. The product will be called PM1633a and is the successor to the PM1633 that has 3.84TB os storage capacity.
To go into all stud mode, Samsung has been demoing these SSDs in a 2U rack server, they had 48 units in there that combined had 768TB of storage space. Have a peek at some slides below. V3 256 Gb 850 EVO SSDs are in production as well.
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#5140679 Posted on: 08/12/2015 02:40 PM
When Samsung make their EVO 850 2TB SSD's £250 then i'll be impressed. But a 16TB SSD with pie in the sky prices, no thanks.
When Samsung make their EVO 850 2TB SSD's £250 then i'll be impressed. But a 16TB SSD with pie in the sky prices, no thanks.
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#5140680 Posted on: 08/12/2015 02:41 PM
Add another 0 to the end of that and you might be close.
And it will cost over $1000.
Add another 0 to the end of that and you might be close.
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#5140681 Posted on: 08/12/2015 02:43 PM
Samsung 3.84 TB version costs $2200 so 16 TB should cost $9000 or maybe $9999.
1.92 TB costs $1100
Samsung consumers deserves to be fooled.
Samsung has the worst ratio on price/performance on ALL products, starting with TVs and ending with medicine equipment.
Open your eyes.
Samsung 3.84 TB version costs $2200 so 16 TB should cost $9000 or maybe $9999.
1.92 TB costs $1100
Samsung consumers deserves to be fooled.
Samsung has the worst ratio on price/performance on ALL products, starting with TVs and ending with medicine equipment.
Open your eyes.
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#5140682 Posted on: 08/12/2015 02:45 PM
That's quite capacity. Not interested in anything over 1TB as those sizes are meant for storage of big files and I do not need to read movie in 15 seconds.
For games 2x 1TB would be superb. So i hope improvements in density can bring prices down. But my last 240GB Vertex 480a did cost 1/2 of original price of 128GB kingston which was my 1st SSD. So it already came 4 times cheaper per GB.
But HDD are still like 10~12 times cheaper than SSD, so I see a lot of space for improvement.
That's quite capacity. Not interested in anything over 1TB as those sizes are meant for storage of big files and I do not need to read movie in 15 seconds.
For games 2x 1TB would be superb. So i hope improvements in density can bring prices down. But my last 240GB Vertex 480a did cost 1/2 of original price of 128GB kingston which was my 1st SSD. So it already came 4 times cheaper per GB.
But HDD are still like 10~12 times cheaper than SSD, so I see a lot of space for improvement.
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#5140683 Posted on: 08/12/2015 02:49 PM
Add another 0 to the end of that and you might be close.
Samsung 3.84 TB version costs $2200 so 16 TB should cost $9000 or maybe $9999.
1.92 TB costs $1100
Samsung consumers deserves to be fooled.
Samsung has the worst ratio on price/performance on ALL products, starting with TVs and ending with medicine equipment.
Open your eyes.
Sorry I missed a 0.
Add another 0 to the end of that and you might be close.
Samsung 3.84 TB version costs $2200 so 16 TB should cost $9000 or maybe $9999.
1.92 TB costs $1100
Samsung consumers deserves to be fooled.
Samsung has the worst ratio on price/performance on ALL products, starting with TVs and ending with medicine equipment.
Open your eyes.
Sorry I missed a 0.
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#5140712 Posted on: 08/12/2015 03:43 PM
Whoa! This would be perfect for some 4k video rendering/storage.
Whoa! This would be perfect for some 4k video rendering/storage.
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#5140717 Posted on: 08/12/2015 03:56 PM
Samsung 3.84 TB version costs $2200 so 16 TB should cost $9000 or maybe $9999.
1.92 TB costs $1100
Samsung consumers deserves to be fooled.
Samsung has the worst ratio on price/performance on ALL products, starting with TVs and ending with medicine equipment.
Open your eyes.
Samsung is one of the leaders is SSD development. That is why they cost more, you're paying to have the product first and to fund their R&D. Wait a little while (usually only a 3-6 months) and a competitor will have a similar product that is cheaper.
Samsung 3.84 TB version costs $2200 so 16 TB should cost $9000 or maybe $9999.
1.92 TB costs $1100
Samsung consumers deserves to be fooled.
Samsung has the worst ratio on price/performance on ALL products, starting with TVs and ending with medicine equipment.
Open your eyes.
Samsung is one of the leaders is SSD development. That is why they cost more, you're paying to have the product first and to fund their R&D. Wait a little while (usually only a 3-6 months) and a competitor will have a similar product that is cheaper.
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#5140743 Posted on: 08/12/2015 04:37 PM
Yep. In the near future this would seem like a much more interesting endeavor, run every PC from an SSD and use mechanical for cold storage.
But then again the technology they use for a 16TB could be downsized as well, with exactly that in mind: making 2TB SSD's cheaper.
When Samsung make their EVO 850 2TB SSD's £250 then i'll be impressed. But a 16TB SSD with pie in the sky prices, no thanks.
Yep. In the near future this would seem like a much more interesting endeavor, run every PC from an SSD and use mechanical for cold storage.
But then again the technology they use for a 16TB could be downsized as well, with exactly that in mind: making 2TB SSD's cheaper.
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#5140757 Posted on: 08/12/2015 04:55 PM
Over here there aren't really other brands/models that would clearly beat Samsung in price/performance. Some second-rate brands are cheaper, such as Kingston, but that's not a viable choice. Those worth considering are around the same price.
Over here there aren't really other brands/models that would clearly beat Samsung in price/performance. Some second-rate brands are cheaper, such as Kingston, but that's not a viable choice. Those worth considering are around the same price.
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#5140791 Posted on: 08/12/2015 05:47 PM
Ultra HD Blu-ray Arrives by holidays....
If so then we gonna need huge capacity HD's no?
If BR is 44gb disk then wth will UHD hold? 160+gbs per disk ?
Only 7 full sized UHD per terabyte lol.
Were gonna need 100's of terabyte drives real soon.
Ultra HD Blu-ray Arrives by holidays....
If so then we gonna need huge capacity HD's no?
If BR is 44gb disk then wth will UHD hold? 160+gbs per disk ?
Only 7 full sized UHD per terabyte lol.
Were gonna need 100's of terabyte drives real soon.
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#5140799 Posted on: 08/12/2015 05:54 PM
Ultra HD Blu-ray Arrives by holidays....
If so then we gonna need huge capacity HD's no?
If BR is 44gb disk then wth will UHD hold? 160+gbs per disk ?
Only 7 full sized UHD per terabyte lol.
Were gonna need 100's of terabyte drives real soon.
I rip all my BRs and compress them with handbrake down to around 2-3GB on average using H.264. Occasionally a big action movie will come out around 8GB because I use CQ. When 4k becomes the norm, H.265 will be much more common and I will likely be able to get those movies down to 4-5GB (guessing of course) without loosing any noticeable quality. I won't need a drive in the 100s of TB just yet.
Ultra HD Blu-ray Arrives by holidays....
If so then we gonna need huge capacity HD's no?
If BR is 44gb disk then wth will UHD hold? 160+gbs per disk ?
Only 7 full sized UHD per terabyte lol.
Were gonna need 100's of terabyte drives real soon.
I rip all my BRs and compress them with handbrake down to around 2-3GB on average using H.264. Occasionally a big action movie will come out around 8GB because I use CQ. When 4k becomes the norm, H.265 will be much more common and I will likely be able to get those movies down to 4-5GB (guessing of course) without loosing any noticeable quality. I won't need a drive in the 100s of TB just yet.
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#5140806 Posted on: 08/12/2015 06:02 PM
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/ultra-hd-blu-ray-specs-dates-and-titles/
I found this read interesting because the Disk association says we are allowed to make copies of UHD disks, yet it's a grey area in the UK Law atm that states it's illegal to make copies of copyrighted material.
"Just as UltraViolet has done for standard Blu-ray, Ultra HD Blu-ray discs will support digital copies, allowing users to access content “across the range of in-home mobile devices,” according to the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA). New information disclosed in an interview by BDA executive, Victor Matsuda, reveals how this will work: “There are two digital bridge features, copy and export,” Matsuda. “Copy permits a bit for bit copy to be stored on an authorized attached media drive. Export allows files to be transferred to an authorized mobile device."
"Update 8/6/2015 by Caleb Denison: The Blu-ray disc association confirmed it is prepared to issue licensing to manufacturers, and disclosed information regarding a new system that allows digital copies for home and mobile use."
By reading into that a little, i think we are about to see a new system for legal copies of one's owned media. I think you'll be allowed to authorize a UHD media so you can watch it on multiple machines.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/ultra-hd-blu-ray-specs-dates-and-titles/
I found this read interesting because the Disk association says we are allowed to make copies of UHD disks, yet it's a grey area in the UK Law atm that states it's illegal to make copies of copyrighted material.
"Just as UltraViolet has done for standard Blu-ray, Ultra HD Blu-ray discs will support digital copies, allowing users to access content “across the range of in-home mobile devices,” according to the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA). New information disclosed in an interview by BDA executive, Victor Matsuda, reveals how this will work: “There are two digital bridge features, copy and export,” Matsuda. “Copy permits a bit for bit copy to be stored on an authorized attached media drive. Export allows files to be transferred to an authorized mobile device."
"Update 8/6/2015 by Caleb Denison: The Blu-ray disc association confirmed it is prepared to issue licensing to manufacturers, and disclosed information regarding a new system that allows digital copies for home and mobile use."
By reading into that a little, i think we are about to see a new system for legal copies of one's owned media. I think you'll be allowed to authorize a UHD media so you can watch it on multiple machines.
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#5141087 Posted on: 08/13/2015 02:46 AM
Well if one has to ask the price....
And it will cost over $1000.
Well if one has to ask the price....
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#5141197 Posted on: 08/13/2015 10:22 AM
I too believe that this thing will be tremendously expensive.
I also believe that 2 or max 4 TB is enough for a enthusiast's gaming rig.
I too believe that this thing will be tremendously expensive.
I also believe that 2 or max 4 TB is enough for a enthusiast's gaming rig.
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And it will cost over $1000.