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Samsung Starts Shipping 4TB model of 850 Evo SSD
Samsung has started rolling out their 4TB version of their 850 Evo SSD. This 2.5" model appeared in online pricewatch engines and will be selling for 1349 euro. The high capacity is possible due to vertically stacked NAND.
Samsung earlier last year already announced that the 4TB model would be released in 2016. It is very likely we'll see a 4TB PRO model soon as well, the high-end model. Though that is not confirmed and this we do not know a price on that model either.
Back in August during the flash memory summit Samsung announced their 3rd gen V-nand technology, the new revision bumped the current 32-layers towards 48 layered stacks of NAND flash memory. The SATA III based 2.5" 850 pro and 850 EVO had been announced as the first SSDs in line to receive the NAND upgrade and thus larger capacities to 4TB.
Up-to now the maximum size was 2TB (read our 850 EVO 2TB review here).
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#5258595 Posted on: 04/15/2016 10:10 AM
LMFAO.... and the rest.
I better start shipping my kidneys then!
LMFAO.... and the rest.
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#5258598 Posted on: 04/15/2016 10:18 AM
I'd love to see SSDs of these sizes sell at affordable 200-300 €.
I'd love to see SSDs of these sizes sell at affordable 200-300 €.
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#5258607 Posted on: 04/15/2016 10:45 AM
Is Samsung smoking that funny stuff? You can buy 4 of the 1tb variants for less than that.
Is Samsung smoking that funny stuff? You can buy 4 of the 1tb variants for less than that.
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#5258670 Posted on: 04/15/2016 01:24 PM
Yea but what if you need more than 4TB, lets say 16TB space on a normal machine? Hooking up 16x1TB SSDs would be quite the hassle.
This is for consumers that need extreme amounts of SSD storage, rather than a fair $/TB ratio.
Is Samsung smoking that funny stuff? You can buy 4 of the 1tb variants for less than that.
Yea but what if you need more than 4TB, lets say 16TB space on a normal machine? Hooking up 16x1TB SSDs would be quite the hassle.
This is for consumers that need extreme amounts of SSD storage, rather than a fair $/TB ratio.
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#5258692 Posted on: 04/15/2016 01:51 PM
Don't think so.
First, today's largest Evo model, with 2Tb, is slightly more expensive than 2 x 1Tb, so one should expect some loss of economy of scale as we move to 4Tb.
Second, this is a premium product (waiting for Pro version, I'll give you that) so it will always carry a premium price.
Finally, you have TRIM issues, unless it was fixed for RAIDs.
Is Samsung smoking that funny stuff? You can buy 4 of the 1tb variants for less than that.
Don't think so.
First, today's largest Evo model, with 2Tb, is slightly more expensive than 2 x 1Tb, so one should expect some loss of economy of scale as we move to 4Tb.
Second, this is a premium product (waiting for Pro version, I'll give you that) so it will always carry a premium price.
Finally, you have TRIM issues, unless it was fixed for RAIDs.
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#5258709 Posted on: 04/15/2016 02:33 PM
If someone needs 4TB of storage, there is at least 3TB of garbage involved. That 3TB is static and won't be touched much. You better never turn off that system so the controller can keep moving that data around. If you think that data is safe you don't understand current NAND technology.
If someone needs 4TB of storage, there is at least 3TB of garbage involved. That 3TB is static and won't be touched much. You better never turn off that system so the controller can keep moving that data around. If you think that data is safe you don't understand current NAND technology.
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#5258756 Posted on: 04/15/2016 03:39 PM
Why aren't they making storage SSDs yet? I mean slower nand, maybe around HDD speeds, which would be cheaper. I'm so ready to move to SSD storage, no more noise, vibration and moving parts please.
Manufacturers are too fixated on speed, I think there should be 2 kinds of SSDs, ultra fast ones for boot drivers, and slower, extremely power efficient ones for storage but with good price/GB ratio.
Why aren't they making storage SSDs yet? I mean slower nand, maybe around HDD speeds, which would be cheaper. I'm so ready to move to SSD storage, no more noise, vibration and moving parts please.
Manufacturers are too fixated on speed, I think there should be 2 kinds of SSDs, ultra fast ones for boot drivers, and slower, extremely power efficient ones for storage but with good price/GB ratio.
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#5258769 Posted on: 04/15/2016 03:53 PM
Why aren't they making storage SSDs yet? I mean slower nand, maybe around HDD speeds, which would be cheaper. I'm so ready to move to SSD storage, no more noise, vibration and moving parts please.
Manufacturers are too fixated on speed, I think there should be 2 kinds of SSDs, ultra fast ones for boot drivers, and slower, extremely power efficient ones for storage but with good price/GB ratio.
Doesn't work like that. Manufacturers aren't fixated on speed, they are fixated on NAND density. The more dense the NAND is, the faster it is, the cheaper it is, the more efficient it is.
Currently SSDs don't make great long-term storage drives due to leakage. That's probably why they aren't heavily marketing them towards storage.
Why aren't they making storage SSDs yet? I mean slower nand, maybe around HDD speeds, which would be cheaper. I'm so ready to move to SSD storage, no more noise, vibration and moving parts please.
Manufacturers are too fixated on speed, I think there should be 2 kinds of SSDs, ultra fast ones for boot drivers, and slower, extremely power efficient ones for storage but with good price/GB ratio.
Doesn't work like that. Manufacturers aren't fixated on speed, they are fixated on NAND density. The more dense the NAND is, the faster it is, the cheaper it is, the more efficient it is.
Currently SSDs don't make great long-term storage drives due to leakage. That's probably why they aren't heavily marketing them towards storage.
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#5258819 Posted on: 04/15/2016 05:31 PM
Anyone remember this from the early 80's?
1349eu for 4tb SSD doesnt sound too bad after all.
Anyone remember this from the early 80's?
1349eu for 4tb SSD doesnt sound too bad after all.
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#5258824 Posted on: 04/15/2016 05:36 PM
Haha an average 70ms seek time as well ... aaah nostalgia.
Haha an average 70ms seek time as well ... aaah nostalgia.
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#5258830 Posted on: 04/15/2016 05:52 PM
I love that whole first paragraph and the "only" 20 watts. Cringey nostalgia is more like it, lol.
I love that whole first paragraph and the "only" 20 watts. Cringey nostalgia is more like it, lol.
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#5258833 Posted on: 04/15/2016 05:59 PM
I'll take two please for 8tb Raid 0 but i'll have to ask the misses if it's ok to remortgage the house first.
I'll take two please for 8tb Raid 0 but i'll have to ask the misses if it's ok to remortgage the house first.
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#5258882 Posted on: 04/15/2016 07:52 PM
I've registered to this forum just to upvote and say: lol to your comment...
I'll take two please for 8tb Raid 0 but i'll have to ask the misses if it's ok to remortgage the house first.
I've registered to this forum just to upvote and say: lol to your comment...
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#5259018 Posted on: 04/16/2016 01:11 AM
Doesn't work like that. Manufacturers aren't fixated on speed, they are fixated on NAND density. The more dense the NAND is, the faster it is, the cheaper it is, the more efficient it is.
Currently SSDs don't make great long-term storage drives due to leakage. That's probably why they aren't heavily marketing them towards storage.
Cost is the reason, not longevity.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9248/the-truth-about-ssd-data-retention
All in all, there is absolutely zero reason to worry about SSD data retention in typical client environment. Remember that the figures presented here are for a drive that has already passed its endurance rating, so for new drives the data retention is considerably higher, typically over ten years for MLC NAND based SSDs. If you buy a drive today and stash it away, the drive itself will become totally obsolete quicker than it will lose its data
Doesn't work like that. Manufacturers aren't fixated on speed, they are fixated on NAND density. The more dense the NAND is, the faster it is, the cheaper it is, the more efficient it is.
Currently SSDs don't make great long-term storage drives due to leakage. That's probably why they aren't heavily marketing them towards storage.
Cost is the reason, not longevity.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9248/the-truth-about-ssd-data-retention
All in all, there is absolutely zero reason to worry about SSD data retention in typical client environment. Remember that the figures presented here are for a drive that has already passed its endurance rating, so for new drives the data retention is considerably higher, typically over ten years for MLC NAND based SSDs. If you buy a drive today and stash it away, the drive itself will become totally obsolete quicker than it will lose its data
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I better start shipping my kidneys then!