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A few etailers show an entry for a new NVME SSD from Samsung, not PRO or EBVO, no the Samsung 980 SSD Spotted. When you read up on it, you'll learn it is a DRAM-less design SSD. That means it makes use of HMB and uses a chunk of your system memory.
By doing so this would be a more mainstream SSD, it seated into PCIe 3.0 x4 and is listed in 250GB, 500GB, and 1TB versions. NAND is 136-layer TLC V-NAND. Performance listed is an up to 3,500 MB/s sequential read speed as well as an up to 3,000 MB/s sequential write speed. As for random performance, advanced versions of the Samsung 980 are claimed to be capable of up to 500,000 random reads (4KB, QD32) as well as up to 480,000 IOPS random writes (4KB, QD1).
Early listing priced indicate the 250GB drive costs €70, the 500GB version is priced at €90, and the 1TB model carries a €150 price tag. That's steep, as Samsung's 970 Evo Plus 250GB can be obtained for €54, the 500GB flavor is available for €74, whereas the 1TB version can be bought for €144.
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#5893325 Posted on: 03/07/2021 01:05 PM
As i stated i call them NVMe not SSD cause there not same as far as i concerned
Strictly call SSD cause has no mechanically parts is missleading , by that term the storage in smartphones/tablets and ipad etc are SSD to but there storage speed any thing but SSD speeds
There is 3 main type of SSD's interface (there is more but obsolete now or for future gen).
-SATA: usefull for big volume as lot less expensive for these volume, slower.
-NVMe: the fastest one but PCIe lane eater
-U2: combine the volume size with the NVMe speed, mainly for entreprise and pro segment, but more and more on regular market, expensive.
As i stated i call them NVMe not SSD cause there not same as far as i concerned
Strictly call SSD cause has no mechanically parts is missleading , by that term the storage in smartphones/tablets and ipad etc are SSD to but there storage speed any thing but SSD speeds
There is 3 main type of SSD's interface (there is more but obsolete now or for future gen).
-SATA: usefull for big volume as lot less expensive for these volume, slower.
-NVMe: the fastest one but PCIe lane eater
-U2: combine the volume size with the NVMe speed, mainly for entreprise and pro segment, but more and more on regular market, expensive.
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#5893327 Posted on: 03/07/2021 01:14 PM
The problem with MLC is that it can't reach big volume with a good price... But yes i prefer SLC and MLC over TLC for the security.
But when you see other pro brand that choose QLC (!!!...) ... Samsung is still better.
The whole 980 series is a downgrade from 970, 980 PRO is TLC instead of MLC e.g.
The problem with MLC is that it can't reach big volume with a good price... But yes i prefer SLC and MLC over TLC for the security.
But when you see other pro brand that choose QLC (!!!...) ... Samsung is still better.
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#5893415 Posted on: 03/07/2021 07:36 PM
There is 3 main type of SSD's interface (there is more but obsolete now or for future gen).
-SATA: usefull for big volume as lot less expensive for these volume, slower.
-NVMe: the fastest one but PCIe lane eater
-U2: combine the volume size with the NVMe speed, mainly for enterprise and pro segment, but more and more on regular market, expensive.
Does not change the fact there ridiculously expensive, and anything but mainstream other then maybe Sata ones Which again are the only ones "I" will call SSD I call NVMe ~ NVMe and M2 ~ M2 etc etco_O
There is only one type of HDD and there all called that but there calling no less then 3 types of drive SSD which just confusing to Consumer imo. Which another thing i got tried of explain to people when I was ask.
Sorta how the WIFI people renamed there names cause A/B/N/AC/AX wifi was confusing to people.
Again my opinions on what I will call SSD
There is 3 main type of SSD's interface (there is more but obsolete now or for future gen).
-SATA: usefull for big volume as lot less expensive for these volume, slower.
-NVMe: the fastest one but PCIe lane eater
-U2: combine the volume size with the NVMe speed, mainly for enterprise and pro segment, but more and more on regular market, expensive.
Does not change the fact there ridiculously expensive, and anything but mainstream other then maybe Sata ones Which again are the only ones "I" will call SSD I call NVMe ~ NVMe and M2 ~ M2 etc etco_O
There is only one type of HDD and there all called that but there calling no less then 3 types of drive SSD which just confusing to Consumer imo. Which another thing i got tried of explain to people when I was ask.
Sorta how the WIFI people renamed there names cause A/B/N/AC/AX wifi was confusing to people.
Again my opinions on what I will call SSD
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#5893522 Posted on: 03/08/2021 01:07 AM
To add confusion :
-M2 can be SATA or NVMe
-2,5 and 3,5 can be SATA or U2
-PCIe card can be SATA or NVMe or U2
But yes compared to HDD they are really expensive, but do most people really need PCIe 4.0 for everyday use?
I don't think so then they could get NVMe PCIe 3.0 SSD that are really faster than SATA and cost nearly the same and wait that the NVMe PCIe 4.0 get better price.
To add confusion :
-M2 can be SATA or NVMe
-2,5 and 3,5 can be SATA or U2
-PCIe card can be SATA or NVMe or U2
But yes compared to HDD they are really expensive, but do most people really need PCIe 4.0 for everyday use?
I don't think so then they could get NVMe PCIe 3.0 SSD that are really faster than SATA and cost nearly the same and wait that the NVMe PCIe 4.0 get better price.
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So what's the point of this? It appears to be worse then a 970 but costs more? Huh?
I don't get it :-/
The whole 980 series is a downgrade from 970, 980 PRO is TLC instead of MLC e.g.