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Guru3D Rig of the Month - December 2019
Samsung 980 PRO M.2 gets PCIe Gen4 and performance up to 6,500 MB/s
Samsung will be releasing its first PCIe 4.0 SSDs dubbed the 980 Pro, and on that PCIe Gen 4.0 link it achieves read speeds of up to 6.5 GB/s, there will be three models.
At this time specific specifications have not been detailed, so details of the controller and specifications of the NAND flash are unknown. However, the connection interface supports PCIe 4.0 x4, and the sequential access speed reaches up to 6,500 MB/s for reading and 5,000 MB/s for writing.
The 6th generation V-NAND, the latest 3D NAND from Samsung, will be used for NAND flash memory. The number of stacked layers has increased to 128, and not only capacity and access speed but also power efficiency have been improved compared to the previous generation V-NAND.The table below compares speed and power consumption with the previous model 970 EVO Plus. When using the 980 PRO with PCIe 4.0, the power consumption is the highest, but the performance per power is the highest.
Also, when using the 980 PRO with PCIe 3.0, power consumption is greatly reduced and it operates with lower power consumption than the 970 EVO Plus, so it has an advantage in the PCIe 3.0 environment. Three models will be released, 250GB, 500GB and 1TB. The release is scheduled for the second quarter of this year
| 980 PRO 1TB PCIe 4.0 | 980 PRO 1TB PCIe 3.0 | 970 EVO Plus 1TB | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Read | Write | Read | Write | Read | Write | |
| Sequential access speed | 6,500MB / s | 5,000MB / s | 3,500MB / s | 3,300MB / s | 3,541MB / s | 3,018MB / s |
| power consumption | 7.11W | 6.44W | 4.03W | 4.02W | 4.94W | 4.98W |
| Rate of speed per power | 914 | 776 | 868 | 821 | 717 | 606 |
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#5749180 Posted on: 01/09/2020 02:10 PM
PCIe 3 is around 1000MBs (it's slightly less but can't remember exactly) per lane. M.2 uses 4 lanes. But yeah, with overhead 3500 MB/s is around the max it would go to.
PCIe 3 is around 1000MBs (it's slightly less but can't remember exactly) per lane. M.2 uses 4 lanes. But yeah, with overhead 3500 MB/s is around the max it would go to.
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#5749191 Posted on: 01/09/2020 02:52 PM
I wonder if they are planning an EVO model eventually. The EVO prices are much more attractive than the Pro model prices.
I wonder if they are planning an EVO model eventually. The EVO prices are much more attractive than the Pro model prices.
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#5749193 Posted on: 01/09/2020 02:55 PM
7W of power usage? That's on level of some 3,5" hdds.
7W of power usage? That's on level of some 3,5" hdds.
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#5749202 Posted on: 01/09/2020 03:52 PM
Yeah, good thing it's almost 45 times faster
Btw it's peak read/write usage and if you do that 24/7/365 that's like 12 bucks on your yearly energy bill.
7W of power usage? That's on level of some 3,5" hdds.
Yeah, good thing it's almost 45 times faster
Btw it's peak read/write usage and if you do that 24/7/365 that's like 12 bucks on your yearly energy bill.
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#5749206 Posted on: 01/09/2020 04:08 PM
The Samsung 970 Evo in my MSI Tian laptop (PCIE 3.0) hits 3,500 and sometimes just a hair over that. This new one must be using a new controller too, because the PCIE 4.0 M.2 that I have (Sabrent Rocket) supposedly sits somewhere between (about 5,000). I haven't tested that yet as my next PC build is not complete. That one is Ryzen 9 3950x on an X570 motherboard with PCIE 4.
The Samsung 970 Evo in my MSI Tian laptop (PCIE 3.0) hits 3,500 and sometimes just a hair over that. This new one must be using a new controller too, because the PCIE 4.0 M.2 that I have (Sabrent Rocket) supposedly sits somewhere between (about 5,000). I haven't tested that yet as my next PC build is not complete. That one is Ryzen 9 3950x on an X570 motherboard with PCIE 4.
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#5749211 Posted on: 01/09/2020 04:34 PM
Hopefully they built a new controller to improve random IO as well which nobody so far has improved upon with PCIe 4 drives.
Hopefully they built a new controller to improve random IO as well which nobody so far has improved upon with PCIe 4 drives.
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#5749215 Posted on: 01/09/2020 04:45 PM
Give me 50% improvement on random io and just 2gb read writes in seq and they will have my money!
Hopefully they built a new controller to improve random IO as well which nobody so far has improved upon with PCIe 4 drives.
Give me 50% improvement on random io and just 2gb read writes in seq and they will have my money!
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#5749221 Posted on: 01/09/2020 05:00 PM
got a MP600 in pcie 4.0 what's the point of those fake benchmarks ? where do you ever get 4000+ other than in benchmarking tools ?
I've got one it copies files at like 1,6Gbyte/s guru3d review managed 2,17Gb but still far away from those totally fake numbers
if you are on the market for a M.2 please don't use those numbers for your purchase decision they are meaningless
edit just did a few copy tests (I only have one 4.0, all drives are M.2 Nvme on MSI Creator TRX40) :
Corsair MP600 2TB -> Samsung 970evoplus 2TB : 1,6Gbyte/s
Corsair MP600 2TB -> Samsung 970pro 1TB : 2,27Gbyte/s
Samsung 970evoplus 2TB -> Corsair MP600 2TB : 1,85Gbyte/s
Samsung 970pro 1TB -> Corsair MP600 2TB : 1,79Gbyte/s
anyway as you can see 3000-4000 numbers are not only meaningless but in the end pcie 3.0 work as well if not better, the corsair gave me 4980/4273 "supposedly" in crystaldiskmark
got a MP600 in pcie 4.0 what's the point of those fake benchmarks ? where do you ever get 4000+ other than in benchmarking tools ?
I've got one it copies files at like 1,6Gbyte/s guru3d review managed 2,17Gb but still far away from those totally fake numbers
if you are on the market for a M.2 please don't use those numbers for your purchase decision they are meaningless
edit just did a few copy tests (I only have one 4.0, all drives are M.2 Nvme on MSI Creator TRX40) :
Corsair MP600 2TB -> Samsung 970evoplus 2TB : 1,6Gbyte/s
Corsair MP600 2TB -> Samsung 970pro 1TB : 2,27Gbyte/s
Samsung 970evoplus 2TB -> Corsair MP600 2TB : 1,85Gbyte/s
Samsung 970pro 1TB -> Corsair MP600 2TB : 1,79Gbyte/s
anyway as you can see 3000-4000 numbers are not only meaningless but in the end pcie 3.0 work as well if not better, the corsair gave me 4980/4273 "supposedly" in crystaldiskmark
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#5749229 Posted on: 01/09/2020 05:18 PM
got a MP600 in pcie 4.0 what's the point of those fake benchmarks ? where do you ever get 4000+ other than in benchmarking tools ?
I've got one it copies files at like 1,6Gbyte/s guru3d review managed 2,17Gb but still far away from those totally fake numbers
if you are on the market for a M.2 please don't use those numbers for your purchase decision they are meaningless
edit just did a few copy tests (I only have one 4.0, all drives are M.2 Nvme on MSI Creator TRX40) :
Corsair MP600 2TB -> Samsung 970evoplus 2TB : 1,6Gbyte/s
Corsair MP600 2TB -> Samsung 970pro 1TB : 2,27Gbyte/s
Samsung 970evoplus 2TB -> Corsair MP600 2TB : 1,85Gbyte/s
Samsung 970pro 1TB -> Corsair MP600 2TB : 1,79Gbyte/s
anyway as you can see 3000-4000 numbers are not only meaningless but in the end pcie 3.0 work as well if not better, the corsair gave me 4980/4273 in crystaldiskmark
it's like the 300km/H gauge on sport's car... you may go fast but you never reach it...
got a MP600 in pcie 4.0 what's the point of those fake benchmarks ? where do you ever get 4000+ other than in benchmarking tools ?
I've got one it copies files at like 1,6Gbyte/s guru3d review managed 2,17Gb but still far away from those totally fake numbers
if you are on the market for a M.2 please don't use those numbers for your purchase decision they are meaningless
edit just did a few copy tests (I only have one 4.0, all drives are M.2 Nvme on MSI Creator TRX40) :
Corsair MP600 2TB -> Samsung 970evoplus 2TB : 1,6Gbyte/s
Corsair MP600 2TB -> Samsung 970pro 1TB : 2,27Gbyte/s
Samsung 970evoplus 2TB -> Corsair MP600 2TB : 1,85Gbyte/s
Samsung 970pro 1TB -> Corsair MP600 2TB : 1,79Gbyte/s
anyway as you can see 3000-4000 numbers are not only meaningless but in the end pcie 3.0 work as well if not better, the corsair gave me 4980/4273 in crystaldiskmark
it's like the 300km/H gauge on sport's car... you may go fast but you never reach it...
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#5749233 Posted on: 01/09/2020 05:24 PM
adding something if someone had a doubt, my M.2 are well cooled by the motherboard heatsinks and case fans
M.2 #1 42 °C (MP600)
M.2 #2 37 °C (970evoplus)
M.2 #3 42 °C (970pro)
adding something if someone had a doubt, my M.2 are well cooled by the motherboard heatsinks and case fans
M.2 #1 42 °C (MP600)
M.2 #2 37 °C (970evoplus)
M.2 #3 42 °C (970pro)
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#5749243 Posted on: 01/09/2020 06:14 PM
This is the PCIe 4.0 SSD I have been waiting for. One of them anyways.
This is the PCIe 4.0 SSD I have been waiting for. One of them anyways.
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#5749256 Posted on: 01/09/2020 06:59 PM
So that makes the 970 Pro the final MLC consumer product from Samsung?
So that makes the 970 Pro the final MLC consumer product from Samsung?
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#5749446 Posted on: 01/10/2020 11:36 AM
got a MP600 in pcie 4.0 what's the point of those fake benchmarks ? where do you ever get 4000+ other than in benchmarking tools ?
I've got one it copies files at like 1,6Gbyte/s guru3d review managed 2,17Gb but still far away from those totally fake numbers
if you are on the market for a M.2 please don't use those numbers for your purchase decision they are meaningless
edit just did a few copy tests (I only have one 4.0, all drives are M.2 Nvme on MSI Creator TRX40) :
Corsair MP600 2TB -> Samsung 970evoplus 2TB : 1,6Gbyte/s
Corsair MP600 2TB -> Samsung 970pro 1TB : 2,27Gbyte/s
Samsung 970evoplus 2TB -> Corsair MP600 2TB : 1,85Gbyte/s
Samsung 970pro 1TB -> Corsair MP600 2TB : 1,79Gbyte/s
anyway as you can see 3000-4000 numbers are not only meaningless but in the end pcie 3.0 work as well if not better, the corsair gave me 4980/4273 "supposedly" in crystaldiskmark
i have achieved evo+ to evo+ copy around 2,2GB/s sustained on z390 platform, with you are little slower...
got a MP600 in pcie 4.0 what's the point of those fake benchmarks ? where do you ever get 4000+ other than in benchmarking tools ?
I've got one it copies files at like 1,6Gbyte/s guru3d review managed 2,17Gb but still far away from those totally fake numbers
if you are on the market for a M.2 please don't use those numbers for your purchase decision they are meaningless
edit just did a few copy tests (I only have one 4.0, all drives are M.2 Nvme on MSI Creator TRX40) :
Corsair MP600 2TB -> Samsung 970evoplus 2TB : 1,6Gbyte/s
Corsair MP600 2TB -> Samsung 970pro 1TB : 2,27Gbyte/s
Samsung 970evoplus 2TB -> Corsair MP600 2TB : 1,85Gbyte/s
Samsung 970pro 1TB -> Corsair MP600 2TB : 1,79Gbyte/s
anyway as you can see 3000-4000 numbers are not only meaningless but in the end pcie 3.0 work as well if not better, the corsair gave me 4980/4273 "supposedly" in crystaldiskmark
i have achieved evo+ to evo+ copy around 2,2GB/s sustained on z390 platform, with you are little slower...
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#5749447 Posted on: 01/10/2020 11:46 AM
980 EVO (TLC) for the masses, bring it Samsung !
980 EVO (TLC) for the masses, bring it Samsung !
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So ~3500MB/s is the limit of PCIe 3.0?