Ryzen Threadripper 2920X Plummets in price 1 day after Ryzen 9 3900X release

#5688945 Posted on: 07/08/2019 07:50 PM

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Wish I lived near a Mirco Center. These are priced at $299.

And yes, I use me PC for gaming and productivity.

#5688947 Posted on: 07/08/2019 08:06 PM

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Hi there

Cheapest 2920x I can find for £360 over here in UK which is not bad price, I have been set to switch to Ryzen 3900X but what puts me off for now availability of motherboard with 10 SATA ports and at least 5 PCI_E slots and preferably EATX board as well

For £275 can have Gigabyte Designare EX X399 which offers that and can reuse my RAM although they're only 2133MHz which I assume would bottleneck CPU

X570 boards there are few which I like just PCI_E slot count is just not enough and 3900X seems is bit better than 2920x

Hope this helps

Thanks, Jura

#5688962 Posted on: 07/08/2019 08:38 PM

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I am not shilling for Intel by pointing out to you what it looks like when the manufacturer doesn't actually advertise their product for gaming, it's really simple, the product page isn't covered in the words "gaming" and "streaming"

Whereas the AMD product, which you claim AMD never meant for gaming, is covered in the words "gaming" and "streaming"

According to you, It's up to the consumer to read the AMD product page and interpret for themselves that despite AMD telling them the chip is for gaming at every possible opportunity, it is not in fact for gaming

Again, why is it like this

#5688996 Posted on: 07/08/2019 09:45 PM

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"THREADRIPPER" "

Why is it like this

I've highlighted things a bit differently above.
"Why is it like this?" I'd politely suggest getting a bit more acquainted with the Threadripper series, particularly the many reviews. I'd suggest our very own guru3d review here: https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2920x-review,29.html. Pay attention to that page. I'd also suggest reading the posts above fully..."never intended as a high end gaming cpu".
Now, once you've had a chance to check out some reviews do get back with something a bit more balanced. There's nothing wrong using a threadripper for gaming, but if you are primarily a gamer, perhaps(!!) you shouldn't be buying a threadripper in the first place?

Do note that with the, by now, well documented many advances of Zen2 - advantages over Intel - any future Threadripper will most certainly carry some interesting review amendments.

#5689215 Posted on: 07/09/2019 01:45 PM

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The distinction is not whether the chip is actually suitable for gaming, I can look at the specs and collect whether or not that's the case, the issue is how the chip is marketed

I've shown what it looks like when a chip isn't marketed for gaming

The THREADRIPPER, with it's aggressive name, logo, and product page which never ceases to mention gaming/streaming, is clearly marketed at gamers

Yet, there's no less than 3 people in this thread who want to make the argument that despite AMD clearly, unequivocally marketing the chip at gamers, they feel the need to let everyone know that it isn't "primarily" for gamers

Maybe you should be telling AMD this

Also, you're not getting to 5ghz without liquid nitrogen on an AMD platform so your future optimism for AMD gaming is also misplaced

#5689436 Posted on: 07/09/2019 10:51 PM

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I am not shilling for Intel by pointing out to you what it looks like when the manufacturer doesn't actually advertise their product for gaming, it's really simple, the product page isn't covered in the words "gaming" and "streaming"

Whereas the AMD product, which you claim AMD never meant for gaming, is covered in the words "gaming" and "streaming"

According to you, It's up to the consumer to read the AMD product page and interpret for themselves that despite AMD telling them the chip is for gaming at every possible opportunity, it is not in fact for gaming

Again, why is it like this

Your shilling for Intel. Your taking words, phrases and twisting them to your liking.

"For serious Enthusiasts, Prosumers and Creators, AMD designed the new 2nd Gen Ryzen™ Threadripper™ 2920X. Boasting 12 high-performance cores capable of harnessing 24 parallel threads, the Ryzen™ Threadripper™ 2920X is the processor of choice when you need to game, stream and create at the same time."

All this tells me it has the power to do all 3 at the same time. As an owner of a 1950X, I fully support that statement.

You may also want to check The link below. Intel mentions "built for gaming"

https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/en/products/processors/core.html

#5689440 Posted on: 07/09/2019 11:06 PM

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ah yes, a CPU with the name "THREADRIPPER" imprinted in GTA style lettering advertised with the phrase "
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2920x

Why is it like this

I just came to post the very same thing:

#5689442 Posted on: 07/09/2019 11:10 PM

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Being able to game, and being meant for gaming are entirely different things.

For instance, you could if you really wanted to, game on a 72 core, 288 thread xeon phi. It would not be a good experience, but you could do it if you so wanted.

And your link, did you even read it?

"The Ryzen™ Threadripper™ 2920X is the processor of choice when you need to game, stream and create at the same time."

The threadripper CPUs were never advertised as gaming CPU, they were advertised as an all-in-one machine that you can game on if you wanted as it has enough performance for games to be playable, while doing more with the PC, at the same time, or just so you don't have to have multiple setups. This is still true.

But again, that doesn't make the threadrippers a CPU AIMED at gaming, and yes, you will find people that state it was "never intended for gaming", and that's still true, as it's not intended for pure gaming, even the first quote stated: "It was never intended as a gaming PC processor." And the 2nd quote you stated: "a processor that, as mentioned above, was never, ever intended as a high end gaming cpu. "




I just lost half of my IQ reading this post.

xeon pie is not advertised as gaming cpu, this one does.

Game, Stream and Create =/= Just Game?

Gaming + Streaming is much harder on CPU then just gaming, if you can game+stream you can game.

#5689444 Posted on: 07/09/2019 11:18 PM

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Hi there

Cheapest 2920x I can find for £360 over here in UK which is not bad price, I have been set to switch to Ryzen 3900X but what puts me off for now availability of motherboard with 10 SATA ports and at least 5 PCI_E slots and preferably EATX board as well

For £275 can have Gigabyte Designare EX X399 which offers that and can reuse my RAM although they're only 2133MHz which I assume would bottleneck CPU

X570 boards there are few which I like just PCI_E slot count is just not enough and 3900X seems is bit better than 2920x

Hope this helps

Thanks, Jura

only Asus boards come with 8 SATA ports, most otehr have 4 or 6.
And 5 PCIe slots? if you want x1 slots then maybe, but not full sized, check PRESTIGE X570 CREATION, if you dont need M.2, you can use one M.2 for NVMe to PCIe converter for 5$ and install 4 port SATA card so youll have 10 SATA and this board has 3 full size Gen 4 slots and 3 x1 PCIe Gen 2.0 slots.
Since one x570 M.2 comes from CPU i got such converter for my PCIe Optane, removed the metal thingy and it will be installed this way, already tested it works fine

#5689457 Posted on: 07/10/2019 12:23 AM

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only Asus boards come with 8 SATA ports, most otehr have 4 or 6.
And 5 PCIe slots? if you want x1 slots then maybe, but not full sized, check PRESTIGE X570 CREATION, if you dont need M.2, you can use one M.2 for NVMe to PCIe converter for 5$ and install 4 port SATA card so youll have 10 SATA and this board has 3 full size Gen 4 slots and 3 x1 PCIe Gen 2.0 slots.
Since one x570 M.2 comes from CPU i got such converter for my PCIe Optane, removed the metal thingy and it will be installed this way, already tested it works fine

Hi there

I think ASRock X570 do have 8 SATA ports and some X470 boards too have 8 SATA ports which would be probably enough

I run previously LSI 9211-i8 with flashed IT mode on X58 I think and no issues and then on Z97 too and on X99 didn't tried

In my case I would need board with at least 4 full sized PCI_E slots, 5 would be perfect because I'm running 4*GPUs(RTX 2080Ti, GTX1080Ti and 2*GTX1080) and 5th slot I could use for LSI 9211-i8 or something like this

Board with 4 full sized PCI_E slots is only MSI X570 Godlike which cost £777 over here and I'm just not prepared pay for any board £777


Hope this helps

Thanks, Jura

#5689553 Posted on: 07/10/2019 09:57 AM

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Crashes? Are you making things up? If not, you had some defect on HW level. Because Software that does not crash on CPU with particular instruction set will not crash on CPU with same instruction set unless there is bug on HW level or CPU operation results in bits being incorrectly returned between 0 and 1.

Most likely cause for your "Crashes" would be incorrectly configured memory. Gets to say why you had even worse performance than other people with same platform.

Audio Crackle thrown at CPU? What about EMI instead? What made it? Did you incorrectly ground some of screws on MB?

Looks like complete PICNIC in your case.

#5689571 Posted on: 07/10/2019 10:33 AM

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Wish I lived near a Mirco Center. These are priced at $299.

And yes, I use me PC for gaming and productivity.
Me too!.....I've only been to the store in atlanta Ga 1 time "6hr round trip" but I felt like I was in heaven! ....it was 2012 and I got a sandy bridge i3/cheap but good ASRock mobo/8gb ddr3/ and a returned HD6870 all for $249.....damn I loved that budget computer....

I built it all myself!...I was Proud!...

#5689785 Posted on: 07/10/2019 05:28 PM

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Hi there

I think ASRock X570 do have 8 SATA ports and some X470 boards too have 8 SATA ports which would be probably enough

I run previously LSI 9211-i8 with flashed IT mode on X58 I think and no issues and then on Z97 too and on X99 didn't tried

In my case I would need board with at least 4 full sized PCI_E slots, 5 would be perfect because I'm running 4*GPUs(RTX 2080Ti, GTX1080Ti and 2*GTX1080) and 5th slot I could use for LSI 9211-i8 or something like this

Board with 4 full sized PCI_E slots is only MSI X570 Godlike which cost £777 over here and I'm just not prepared pay for any board £777


Hope this helps

Thanks, Jura


I dont know how you run these cards right now on Intel, latest z390 has one x16 or two x8 + extra 1 at x4, all gen 3, older boards have it worse, much worse.
As I mentioned before, every M2 slot is PCIe x4, it can be used for anything you want, if the card is heavy you can use extender cable, if its some sort expansion card like the SATA/RAID one it can be inserted directed into M.2 slot with the M.2 to PCie x4 adapter
x470 is not worth it, they never made to high standards, they all trash and you will lose PCIe gen4 for future proofing
If I was you and needed mixed Game/Work system: i would go with Latest Intel HEDT, thats tons of PCIe slots, they give Lots of PCIe lanes directly from the CPU, and on last gen all CPUs equal, no matter ifi ts 10 core or 20 core.
If I was you and needed mixed Work/Light Gaming system: ill get Threadripper
If I was you and needed mixed Game/Work system on a budget: ill get z390 board with PLX chip, PLX chip is expensive chip that adds PCIe lanes, currently only 2 motherboard on z390 come with PLX chip: SUPERMICRO SuperO MBD-C9Z390-PGW-O and ASUS WS Z390 PRO.
These 2 above have 4 Full PCIe lanes, when all populated they all run at x8 speed, no x1 and x4 like in regualr boards, they have extra x1 port and TWO x4 M.2 ports that you can convert to regualr X4 ports so you have 4 full + 2 x4 + one x1
They same price on Newegg, but Supermicro has more value, like 10 Gbit LAN port, build in wifi, tons of USB 3.1 and 3.1 gen2
They all have 6 sata. Supermicro also has two U.2, but with the amount of expansion they have you can drop in SATA/RAID card into M.2 slot using converter and still have FOUR full sized slots, they work as x16, x16,x8,x8 or x8,x8,x8,x8

P.S. if its not secret, what do you do with all these cards at once?

#5689923 Posted on: 07/10/2019 11:43 PM

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I dont know how you run these cards right now on Intel, latest z390 has one x16 or two x8 + extra 1 at x4, all gen 3, older boards have it worse, much worse.
As I mentioned before, every M2 slot is PCIe x4, it can be used for anything you want, if the card is heavy you can use extender cable, if its some sort expansion card like the SATA/RAID one it can be inserted directed into M.2 slot with the M.2 to PCie x4 adapter
x470 is not worth it, they never made to high standards, they all trash and you will lose PCIe gen4 for future proofing
If I was you and needed mixed Game/Work system: i would go with Latest Intel HEDT, thats tons of PCIe slots, they give Lots of PCIe lanes directly from the CPU, and on last gen all CPUs equal, no matter ifi ts 10 core or 20 core.
If I was you and needed mixed Work/Light Gaming system: ill get Threadripper
If I was you and needed mixed Game/Work system on a budget: ill get z390 board with PLX chip, PLX chip is expensive chip that adds PCIe lanes, currently only 2 motherboard on z390 come with PLX chip: SUPERMICRO SuperO MBD-C9Z390-PGW-O and ASUS WS Z390 PRO.
These 2 above have 4 Full PCIe lanes, when all populated they all run at x8 speed, no x1 and x4 like in regualr boards, they have extra x1 port and TWO x4 M.2 ports that you can convert to regualr X4 ports so you have 4 full + 2 x4 + one x1
They same price on Newegg, but Supermicro has more value, like 10 Gbit LAN port, build in wifi, tons of USB 3.1 and 3.1 gen2
They all have 6 sata. Supermicro also has two U.2, but with the amount of expansion they have you can drop in SATA/RAID card into M.2 slot using converter and still have FOUR full sized slots, they work as x16, x16,x8,x8 or x8,x8,x8,x8

P.S. if its not secret, what do you do with all these cards at once?


Hi there

I use my PC for rendering mostly and currently I'm on X99 5960x and ASRock X99 WS where all GPUs are running in x8 as max, my board doesn't have PLX chip and probably due this I don't have lots of issues with my board when I use all 4 GPUs in rendering

Current Nvidia drivers are broken when you are using board with PLX chip with more than 3*GPUs , its covered pretty good on OTOY Octane forum this issue and Nvidia still didn't fixed this issue due this I don't want get board with PLX chip

Z390 is out of question for me that's for sure and regarding the Intel HDET, friend have X299 WS Sage board I think from Asus with which he have few issues, mainly running multiple GPUs

Personally I don't want board with PLX and this can limit options for good boards

10 SATA ports would be awesome but this is not really requirement for me because I can use LSI 9211-i8 which I have used previously

I looked several times on X299 and twice I ordered X299 board and twice returned board and have borrowed twice 7900x just for testing and still not sure on that and have few issues with LSI PCI_E card as well, wouldn't recognise the card with 4*GPUs in this setup

ThreadRipper or 3900X/3950X its probably best for my needs, I do game just don't as much as many people over here there and I would assume with 2113MHz RAM I still loose bit of performance like on AMD or Intel

Currently running 96GB of RAM and would prefer to keep it like is it with 96GB of RAM and looks like X399 its probably best option

Supermicro boards have used mostly their sever boards which I have used mostly on 7*GPUs setup for friend and he us using his PC for rendering only

Will probably do few searches and decide later on, several times I wanted upgrade to ThreadRipper and several times I pulled out from this, currently I use several CPU renderers with which I would benefit from ThreadRipper or 3900X or 3950X

Hope this helps

Thanks, Jura

#5689936 Posted on: 07/11/2019 12:50 AM

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Hi there

I use my PC for rendering mostly and currently I'm on X99 5960x and ASRock X99 WS where all GPUs are running in x8 as max, my board doesn't have PLX chip and probably due this I don't have lots of issues with my board when I use all 4 GPUs in rendering

Current Nvidia drivers are broken when you are using board with PLX chip with more than 3*GPUs , its covered pretty good on OTOY Octane forum this issue and Nvidia still didn't fixed this issue due this I don't want get board with PLX chip

Z390 is out of question for me that's for sure and regarding the Intel HDET, friend have X299 WS Sage board I think from Asus with which he have few issues, mainly running multiple GPUs

Personally I don't want board with PLX and this can limit options for good boards

10 SATA ports would be awesome but this is not really requirement for me because I can use LSI 9211-i8 which I have used previously

I looked several times on X299 and twice I ordered X299 board and twice returned board and have borrowed twice 7900x just for testing and still not sure on that and have few issues with LSI PCI_E card as well, wouldn't recognise the card with 4*GPUs in this setup

ThreadRipper or 3900X/3950X its probably best for my needs, I do game just don't as much as many people over here there and I would assume with 2113MHz RAM I still loose bit of performance like on AMD or Intel

Currently running 96GB of RAM and would prefer to keep it like is it with 96GB of RAM and looks like X399 its probably best option

Supermicro boards have used mostly their sever boards which I have used mostly on 7*GPUs setup for friend and he us using his PC for rendering only

Will probably do few searches and decide later on, several times I wanted upgrade to ThreadRipper and several times I pulled out from this, currently I use several CPU renderers with which I would benefit from ThreadRipper or 3900X or 3950X

Hope this helps

Thanks, Jura


What are you rendering all day? Are you working in graphics?

I think for you a discounted thread ripper is the best, 2 weeks ago i would say 12 core gen because it was 350$ but now just gran whatever you want they all Dropped the ball.
If I was in your position, i would of just made me a small mini PC used for gaming when I need, small mini case cheap 6 core CPU be it Ryzen 3000 or Intel, 16 or 32gb of ram ,
you can get 16GB of 3600Mhz Tridenz Smaung B die for 99USD https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232728
If you want to, since this small PC is lifht on power you can Double Use it as NAS, put some HDDs inside and have it always on,.
I moved to 5Gb Ethernet, its cheap, 69$ it only uses PCIe x1 slot and its fast enough 500-540MB/s if you have money you can install two such card
If you want to save money you can buy on ebay or aliexpress Chinese made Ethernet cards that use Realtek 2.5Gb Ethernet chip
So far only Chinese make actual Ethernet cards, i seen them for around 17USD, so thats 250MB/s, one card for your PC and one for your mini Gaming PC/NAS

Im also building a new PC, im SLOW, last year when 9900K came out I had z370 Gigabyte Gaming 7 motherboard and 8700K, so i got 9900K and z390 Gigabyte Master Motherboard, i installed the CPU right away in my old motherboard and put the z390 away to wait for a new case, custom water cooling, tons of RGB
So I have all the parts, wasted tons of money but eventually said, screw it, ill wait and see whats with Ryzen3000, so i have z390 mobo, brand new in box that i got YEAR ago, it lost 30% of its value and I need to sell it.
I decided to give Ryzen a chance, but after looking at benchmarks and thinking that I waited so long, I can wait till September and get the 16 core.
I wanted to build a second PC to capture 4K/HDR videos, but i dont have space for it, so decided to get dedicated device with HDR screen that can capture 4K/60/HDR in raw format and it hs 1000Nit screen and shows right way what it captures, and SATA connection for SSD