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Guru3D.com » News » Ryzen 7 5800X3D is gonna be hard to get due to complex production stacked cache

Ryzen 7 5800X3D is gonna be hard to get due to complex production stacked cache

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 01/13/2022 07:08 PM | source: pcgamer | 53 comment(s)
Ryzen 7 5800X3D is gonna be hard to get due to complex production stacked cache

The AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D will be the only consumer-level processor to include an additional stacked 3D V-Cache that sit above the compute dies. And that's difficult and costly, the processor might end up being a limited edition.

According to Digitimes sources, TSMC's 3D SoIC technology is not yet in volume production, and limited capacity is available being allocated to enterprise chips. The Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) is building a new sophisticated packaging plant in Chunan, Taiwan, which is slated to be operational later this year, although it may not be ready in time for volume 5800X3D production prior to the release of Zen 4 later this year. AMD believes that the presence of all of that more L3 cache will result in a significant boost in gaming performance over the standard 5800X, which isn't exactly a slouch in the first place. But with the recent Alder Lake release, it might be enough to grab back the #1 position. The notion is that latency-sensitive applications such as games will benefit from not having to access the DRAM as frequently as they would otherwise have to. Although AMD claims that the technology can provide a 15 percent boost in performance, which is enough to put it ahead of the 12900K, we'll reserve final judgment until we've had a chance to test the 5800X3D for ourselves once we review it.

 

 

The Ryzen 7 5800X3D is scheduled to go on sale in spring 2022, so you'll have to wait a few months longer. If TSMC's limited manufacturing capacity remains until the middle of 2022 or beyond, it is possible that the 5800X3D will continue to be a niche processor. It is expected to be replaced by Zen 4 CPUs in the second half of 2022.



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nizzen
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#5982111 Posted on: 01/13/2022 07:16 PM
It will not beat 12900k with tweaked Hynix DDR5 anyway, so it better be very cheap to even consider buying.

Upgrading from x370 (if supported) will be the best upgrade. From like 1600x/1700x

Horus-Anhur
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#5982115 Posted on: 01/13/2022 07:24 PM
More bad news.
2022 just like 2021.

JamesSneed
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#5982121 Posted on: 01/13/2022 07:34 PM
While I'm excited by the 3D stacking technology this part is so poorly timed I am just not excited about it at all.

By the time its out its not far from Zen4 being released. Honestly the 5800X3D is mostly just a proof of concept or benchmark stacking skew to show AMD at the top kind of like Intel's 9900-KFC was.

Both AMD's Zen4 and Intel's Raptor Lake are about to fight it out this fall of 2022.

cucaulay malkin
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#5982122 Posted on: 01/13/2022 07:37 PM
think about how overpriced 5800x was for quite a long time due to high demand and limited supply.
Now picture 5800X3D is gonna be worse.Complicated,expensive production.And only one sku.
While improving cache does work quite well,it's more like a last resort option for a company.Intel had to do the same with 5775C because of the way early 14nm turned out,amd has to because of 12th gen.

12400,12600 and 12700 are gonna sell like crazy.How amd got themselves into this situation is really mind boggling,they had the advantage in pretty much every aspect.

The Goose
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#5982127 Posted on: 01/13/2022 07:41 PM
I`ved just read that the 3d version has 200mhz less boost than the 5800x.... I can see it being cheaper to just change my 5800x for a 5900x or wait for next gen

That being said...i`d probably be better off getting a rtx 3080 that are pretty scarce and cost more than im prepared to pay for a hobby when my 5800x/3070 do a good enough job

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