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Guru3D.com » News » Ryzen 7 5800X3D is gonna be hard to get due to complex production stacked cache

Ryzen 7 5800X3D is gonna be hard to get due to complex production stacked cache

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 01/13/2022 07:08 PM | source: pcgamer | 53 comment(s)
Ryzen 7 5800X3D is gonna be hard to get due to complex production stacked cache

The AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D will be the only consumer-level processor to include an additional stacked 3D V-Cache that sit above the compute dies. And that's difficult and costly, the processor might end up being a limited edition.

According to Digitimes sources, TSMC's 3D SoIC technology is not yet in volume production, and limited capacity is available being allocated to enterprise chips. The Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) is building a new sophisticated packaging plant in Chunan, Taiwan, which is slated to be operational later this year, although it may not be ready in time for volume 5800X3D production prior to the release of Zen 4 later this year. AMD believes that the presence of all of that more L3 cache will result in a significant boost in gaming performance over the standard 5800X, which isn't exactly a slouch in the first place. But with the recent Alder Lake release, it might be enough to grab back the #1 position. The notion is that latency-sensitive applications such as games will benefit from not having to access the DRAM as frequently as they would otherwise have to. Although AMD claims that the technology can provide a 15 percent boost in performance, which is enough to put it ahead of the 12900K, we'll reserve final judgment until we've had a chance to test the 5800X3D for ourselves once we review it.

 

 

The Ryzen 7 5800X3D is scheduled to go on sale in spring 2022, so you'll have to wait a few months longer. If TSMC's limited manufacturing capacity remains until the middle of 2022 or beyond, it is possible that the 5800X3D will continue to be a niche processor. It is expected to be replaced by Zen 4 CPUs in the second half of 2022.



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cucaulay malkin
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#5982961 Posted on: 01/15/2022 07:11 PM
essentially.

one cpu is not a dozen cpus

the greatest power Intel has is market share and marketing.

and a whole lineup of cpus that beat the competition in performance and price atm

FlawleZ
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#5983042 Posted on: 01/15/2022 11:28 PM
Everyone would be wise to reserve their opinions until 3rd party reviews are out. There are plenty of people that don't care what team or brand, they just want the best. And If this CPU does in fact beat 12900K in games, rest assured those people will line up to buy this thing.

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#5983133 Posted on: 01/16/2022 10:40 AM
shady marketing stories, as if amd didn't have a clue in advance, but sure, get yours NOW...if you buy this your life will be better. They are all becoming worse liars by the day.
So transparent i can hardly see them anymore.

They are at the mercy of TSMC and their capabilities, the yields that come from it, and the materials at ease to do so. You can better believe it that AMD would much rather have a lot more stock.

Sometimes i wonder how much people on this forum actually think when they come up with conspiracy theories

tunejunky
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#5983264 Posted on: 01/16/2022 05:22 PM
one cpu is not a dozen cpus


and a whole lineup of cpus that beat the competition in performance and price atm


you miss the point and it looks like deliberately.
i'm not just a fanboy, i'm in the industry in Silicon Valley. i talk to Intel engineers several times a week and i'm besties with one of the executives.
not to mention about 40% of my retirement is in Intel stock. which never stopped me from admiring (and investing in) AMD.
most of my AMD friends were spun off with Glo-Flo but i still have some friends left at the marketing division.

a placeholder doesn't need to be a one-off.

Intel's Meteor Lake and AMD's Ryzen 4 are the reason why. these are quantitatively superior CPU's to anything on the market today. Alder Lake is not quantitatively superior nor is 5800X3D.

both Meteor Lake and Ryzen 4 introduce entirely new platforms and performance levels that would've been science fiction 5 years ago.

at the same time, companies are in business for profit. everything i've said is true and factual.

cucaulay malkin
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#5983273 Posted on: 01/16/2022 05:54 PM
Alder Lake is not quantitatively superior nor is 5800X3D.

of course it is,this is pretty easy to count for a 1st grader.
a single,one-off sku that's gonna have limited supply vs. whole lineup.
i don't need you to tell me your background to tell which number is higher.

12th gen is a proper release,unlike a single 5800x cpu with extra cache at the cost of lower frequency.
whole 13th gen is gonna get a substantial cache increase too.

everything i've said is true and factual.
well,according to your use of underlined text is has to be.
no one would say something untrue if they're gonna underline it.

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