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Ryzen 3000: Zen-2 CPUs get JEDEC 3200 MHz Specification
New details on upcoming Ryzen 3000 CPUs with Zen 2 architecture has been leaked. The integrated memory controller is designed, according to information from circles of motherboard manufacturers, for DDR4-3200 JEDEC based. And that is and thus the highest speed according to JEDEC specification. You can advance on that though.
"Leaker" 188 号 aka @ momomo_us confirmed this. The new Zen-2 CPUs codenamed Matisse will officially support DDR4-3200 with an effective clock of 3,200 MHz and 25.6 GB/s per channel. In dual-channel configuration, the data rate increases to 51.2 GB/s. In comparison Intel currently is at JEDEC 2666 MHz for the latest Coffee lake generation.
Current gen Pinnacle Ridge (Ryzen 2000) is specced at a max DDR4-2933. The same goes for the Picasso generation of AMD APUs, which are also marketed as Ryzen 3000, but do not use Zen 2 in 7 nm, but Zen in 12 nm as their architecture (please do keep that in mind). The Ryzen 3000 ecosystem will be supporting 16 GB per RAM/DIMM module and that means a max of 64 GB for the entire system.
The official RAM JEDEC support stands for the maximum memory clock without overclocking. However with overclocking (OC) Matisse is rumored to be capable of DDR4-4000 or more. A screenshot suggests a higher OC potential with data of maximum DDR4-4400+ at Matisse and only up to DDR4-3466 + at Pinnacle Ridge. Biostar earlier on advertised up to DDR4-4000 on the upcoming motherboard Racing X570GT8 . The MSI X570 Godlike is rumored to support DDR4-4600 + (OC). The new motherboards are expected to Computex.
AMD Ryzen 3000: New Block diagram about PCIe 4.0 on Matisse and X570 chipset - 05/23/2019 09:51 AM
Another block diagram of a more official nature leaked, this one holds the X570 chipset breakdown alongside the specs and Ryzen 3000. It's clear already that Ryzen 3000 CPUs (Matisse) and the X570 c...
AIDA64: Update v6.00 brings Ryzen 3000 specific benchmarks - 05/22/2019 09:18 AM
Yesterday we updated our Finalwire download with a v6.00 revision for AIDA64, which includes some major enhancements. Included are revised benchmarks and stability tests for AMD's upcoming Zen 2 pro...
MSI X570 Gaming Pro Carbon and Plus for AMD Ryzen 3000 Leak - 05/17/2019 08:12 PM
Photos have laked from MSI's upcoming X570 gaming motherboards. This involves the X570 Gaming Pro Carbon and the X570 Gaming Plus. Once again the motherboards have an active fan on board on top of th...
Biostar Racing X570GT8 (Ryzen 3000) Motherboard Photo and Specs - 05/13/2019 04:47 PM
Perhaps Biostar was a bit envious after the MSI tease, so here is their "Racing X570GT8". This is the first actual real photo of X570, the new chipset for ZEN2 / Ryzen 3000. ...
Ryzen 3000 processors could very well support 5000 MHz DDR4 memory - 05/12/2019 08:23 AM
Yuri Bubliy, also known as from 1usmus from the Ryzen DRAM Calculatorposted on his Twitter feed that upcoming processors will support memory at a speed of 5,000 MHz. ...
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#5672813 Posted on: 05/24/2019 07:26 PM
Yep, way more sensibly priced now.
Yep, way more sensibly priced now.
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#5672877 Posted on: 05/24/2019 11:13 PM
I'm not so sure. Zen 2 has twice the amount of L3 cache as Zen, and that will make a huge difference as more data can be kept closer to the CPU. Also, most desktop applications are not bandwidth intensive enough to really be crippled by dual channel; especially if its high speed memory.
The reason for this is if they ever release 12 and 16 core part, it is going to chock with dual memory channel. That's why I claim that Intel 9900k will still beat both CPUs in gaming regardless what AMD does with memory.
I'm not so sure. Zen 2 has twice the amount of L3 cache as Zen, and that will make a huge difference as more data can be kept closer to the CPU. Also, most desktop applications are not bandwidth intensive enough to really be crippled by dual channel; especially if its high speed memory.
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#5672902 Posted on: 05/25/2019 12:38 AM
This is a great confirmation that the crown of "gamer" CPU of blue side is falling down! With sure the ZEN2 will run 4000MHZ with nice latency and with the @ 5.0GHZ on all ZEN2 CORE will SMASH Intel! And the better.... MORE CHEAP!
It´s probably that, disable the 16 threads, the 8-CORE with nice AIO cooler and thermal paste will hit 5.2GHZ.
Prepare yourself... the green times are coming!
Goddamn son, dunno where that imagination is coming from but you need to tone it down a bit.. its not even certain that it'll hit 4.5 on all cores and you're going crazy with numbers like 5? with LN sure but for us mortals no way in hell..
This is a great confirmation that the crown of "gamer" CPU of blue side is falling down! With sure the ZEN2 will run 4000MHZ with nice latency and with the @ 5.0GHZ on all ZEN2 CORE will SMASH Intel! And the better.... MORE CHEAP!
It´s probably that, disable the 16 threads, the 8-CORE with nice AIO cooler and thermal paste will hit 5.2GHZ.
Prepare yourself... the green times are coming!
Goddamn son, dunno where that imagination is coming from but you need to tone it down a bit.. its not even certain that it'll hit 4.5 on all cores and you're going crazy with numbers like 5? with LN sure but for us mortals no way in hell..
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#5672908 Posted on: 05/25/2019 01:03 AM
This is a great confirmation that the crown of "gamer" CPU of blue side is falling down! With sure the ZEN2 will run 4000MHZ with nice latency and with the @ 5.0GHZ on all ZEN2 CORE will SMASH Intel! And the better.... MORE CHEAP!
It´s probably that, disable the 16 threads, the 8-CORE with nice AIO cooler and thermal paste will hit 5.2GHZ.
Prepare yourself... the green times are coming!
Goddamn son, dunno where that imagination is coming from but you need to tone it down a bit.. its not even certain that it'll hit 4.5 on all cores and you're going crazy with numbers like 5? with LN sure but for us mortals no way in hell..
I already hit 4.3 stable on all cores with a simple all in one box liquid cooling kit on my 2700X. And was the first to show that ram could at least be bench stable at 3805 2 x 16 GB sticks back in November unstable for general use back then. People are now able to hit 4000 Mhz on their ram since all the bios updates. If you do not think AMD pays attentions to us overclockers and use our tweaks we post online you are sadly mistaken. While they also do their own things they do keep up with what the user base figures out and figures what they can incorporate.
Further it is already been already been demonstrated once you apply all the security fixes needed to all the many many intel chips they lose quite a bit of performance. If you fully implement the security you need by disabling Hyper Threading just think about it or I can if needed showing the testing and evaluations.
As I do though with all big releases leaks is to take them with a grain of salt, but generally the Ryzen leaks have all pretty much turned out to be true and as well know Ryzen+ was a huge leap forward over Ryzen. Now with the Ram speed decoupled from other things...we have seen specs"leaks" on at least one motherboard with 4400 (OC) speed. And we actually know the Ryzen 3000 will start with a 3200 Ram Jedec. See where I am going with this.
Just ran this...still tuning the newest bios I just installed today. Took the sceenshot while it was running.
And just cause I can show it...notice my Vega 64 tearing up the graphics with memory timing tweaks with the new tool we now have.
So in closing all things are possible. Let me add with windows 1903 my Physics and Combine scores also went up significantly.
This is a great confirmation that the crown of "gamer" CPU of blue side is falling down! With sure the ZEN2 will run 4000MHZ with nice latency and with the @ 5.0GHZ on all ZEN2 CORE will SMASH Intel! And the better.... MORE CHEAP!
It´s probably that, disable the 16 threads, the 8-CORE with nice AIO cooler and thermal paste will hit 5.2GHZ.
Prepare yourself... the green times are coming!
Goddamn son, dunno where that imagination is coming from but you need to tone it down a bit.. its not even certain that it'll hit 4.5 on all cores and you're going crazy with numbers like 5? with LN sure but for us mortals no way in hell..
I already hit 4.3 stable on all cores with a simple all in one box liquid cooling kit on my 2700X. And was the first to show that ram could at least be bench stable at 3805 2 x 16 GB sticks back in November unstable for general use back then. People are now able to hit 4000 Mhz on their ram since all the bios updates. If you do not think AMD pays attentions to us overclockers and use our tweaks we post online you are sadly mistaken. While they also do their own things they do keep up with what the user base figures out and figures what they can incorporate.
Further it is already been already been demonstrated once you apply all the security fixes needed to all the many many intel chips they lose quite a bit of performance. If you fully implement the security you need by disabling Hyper Threading just think about it or I can if needed showing the testing and evaluations.
As I do though with all big releases leaks is to take them with a grain of salt, but generally the Ryzen leaks have all pretty much turned out to be true and as well know Ryzen+ was a huge leap forward over Ryzen. Now with the Ram speed decoupled from other things...we have seen specs"leaks" on at least one motherboard with 4400 (OC) speed. And we actually know the Ryzen 3000 will start with a 3200 Ram Jedec. See where I am going with this.
Just ran this...still tuning the newest bios I just installed today. Took the sceenshot while it was running.
And just cause I can show it...notice my Vega 64 tearing up the graphics with memory timing tweaks with the new tool we now have.
So in closing all things are possible. Let me add with windows 1903 my Physics and Combine scores also went up significantly.
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And with DDR4 prices almost back at June 2016 levels... 80 bucks for 16GB instead of 190