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Ryzen 3000: AMD deliberately limited Boost behavior in favor of longevity, says Asus staff
An Asus employee gas mentioned that AMD has reduced the boost behavior of the Ryzen 3000 processors to a more moderate level as it was too aggressive and now is a bit more limited in favor of longevity.
It has been a bit of a discussion as to why motherboard differs in Boost frequencies with Ryzen 3000 on different motherboards. Now it is said by shamino (Asus employee) that AMD has limited the boost behavior in newer AGESA versions.
The motivation for this step would be that AMD apparently wants to ensure a longer life. As it says at least in the contribution of "shamino1978" in forums (via reddit.com).
"every new bios i get asked the boost question all over again, i have not tested a newer version of AGESA that changes the current state of 1003 boost, not even 1004. if i do know of changes, i will specifically state this. They were being too aggressive with the boost previously, the current boost behavior is more in line with their confidence in long term reliability and i have not heard of any changes to this stance, tho i have heard of a 'more customizable' version in the future"
As for the controversy surrounding the boost frequencies of the current Ryzen 3000 processors, have a peek here.
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#5704541 Posted on: 08/27/2019 08:48 AM
Boost is automatic overclocking, it does work out of the box. Basically AMD is already overclocking CPU for us, no much gain by overclocking it manually.
Still, would be awesome to have an option to "disable" this safe feature and go for higher clocks.
I would trade logevity for performance any day. Isnt that overclocking is for?
Boost is automatic overclocking, it does work out of the box. Basically AMD is already overclocking CPU for us, no much gain by overclocking it manually.
Still, would be awesome to have an option to "disable" this safe feature and go for higher clocks.
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#5704543 Posted on: 08/27/2019 09:08 AM
Stock clocks only, keep within tdp. I tried clocking in 100mhz steps from 3.1 to 4.3ghz, there was a 2-3 second difference rendering audio. Never bothered again.
Stock clocks only, keep within tdp. I tried clocking in 100mhz steps from 3.1 to 4.3ghz, there was a 2-3 second difference rendering audio. Never bothered again.
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#5704550 Posted on: 08/27/2019 10:09 AM
if they lower the maximum boost they need to respec the cpu and marketing material.
Provably they will just boost for less time?
if they lower the maximum boost they need to respec the cpu and marketing material.
Provably they will just boost for less time?
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#5704551 Posted on: 08/27/2019 10:19 AM
if they lower the maximum boost they need to respec the cpu and marketing material.
Provably they will just boost for less time?
You go to the car dealer, there are 120hp and 140hp models, they can give you a better discount for the 140hp one so you buy it as it's kinda worth the extra.
After the first 1000km service they have to remap the car to 125-130hp, so the engine will last for 250.000km and you drive home with a little less horsepower, around the same as if you bought the 120hp model for 1000€ less. But that's ok, that one lost 10hp too
if they lower the maximum boost they need to respec the cpu and marketing material.
Provably they will just boost for less time?
You go to the car dealer, there are 120hp and 140hp models, they can give you a better discount for the 140hp one so you buy it as it's kinda worth the extra.
After the first 1000km service they have to remap the car to 125-130hp, so the engine will last for 250.000km and you drive home with a little less horsepower, around the same as if you bought the 120hp model for 1000€ less. But that's ok, that one lost 10hp too
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I would trade logevity for performance any day. Isnt that overclocking is for?