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Rumor: Zen 3 sees yet another IPC Significant gain
AMD is paving on that processor road hard. The recent Ryzen 3000 series processors have seen a pretty bump in nice instructions per clock (IPC) improvement wise that is, and that is about to happen again with Zen3 (Milan).
The rumor that a core would get 4 threads seems to be dismissed though, however, the IPC increase would get an extra boost, at the very least 10% is plausible A report at redgamingtech.com, citing a "very good" source. With Zen 3 aka Milan (AMD’s new 7nm+ node process), there would not only be an infusion of Zen 2. There are changes compared to the current architecture. Previously it was also mentioned that the frequencies of some engineering samples have increased by 100 to 200 MHz. It is not yet clear whether this is due to an improved 7nm process from TSMC or improved processor architecture.
How much truth to the current claims is on it, will have to show yet. The information should be treated with caution. Before Zen 3 even enters the stage we'll first need to see the current line of Zen 2 line-up even finishes. yes, that Ryzen 9 3950X.
Source: RedGamingTech, Chiphell
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#5720242 Posted on: 10/14/2019 09:27 AM
As long as these CPUs are compatible with latest X570 motherboards they might be an upgrade option. If it’s new motherboards again then forget about it for me anyway.
As long as these CPUs are compatible with latest X570 motherboards they might be an upgrade option. If it’s new motherboards again then forget about it for me anyway.
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#5720263 Posted on: 10/14/2019 10:48 AM
It is already known that Ryzen 4000 series will work in X470 and X570 boards with future BIOS updates.
It is already known that Ryzen 4000 series will work in X470 and X570 boards with future BIOS updates.
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#5720265 Posted on: 10/14/2019 10:49 AM
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#5720266 Posted on: 10/14/2019 10:51 AM
Actually, I think AMD said that this gen will be the last on the AM4 socket it is 7nm tech and not 7nm+ and I think it will require a new socket.
It is already known that Ryzen 4000 series will work in X470 and X570 boards with future BIOS updates.
Actually, I think AMD said that this gen will be the last on the AM4 socket it is 7nm tech and not 7nm+ and I think it will require a new socket.
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#5720267 Posted on: 10/14/2019 10:53 AM
no it isn't.
It is already known that Ryzen 4000 series will work in X470 and X570 boards with future BIOS updates.
no it isn't.
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#5720268 Posted on: 10/14/2019 10:55 AM
Zen 3 is the final gen for AM4.
Zen 3 is the final gen for AM4.
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#5720278 Posted on: 10/14/2019 11:25 AM
Source please?
It is already known that Ryzen 4000 series will work in X470 and X570 boards with future BIOS updates.
Source please?
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#5720283 Posted on: 10/14/2019 11:31 AM
https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2019/05/27/socket-am4-platform-longevity-getting-ryzen-3000-ready
"With the launch of the AM4 platform in 2016, we at AMD made a commitment to maintain and support socket AM4 through 2020."
Source please?
https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2019/05/27/socket-am4-platform-longevity-getting-ryzen-3000-ready
"With the launch of the AM4 platform in 2016, we at AMD made a commitment to maintain and support socket AM4 through 2020."
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#5720284 Posted on: 10/14/2019 11:37 AM
I want 4SMT's per core but i guess thats Zen4.
I want 4SMT's per core but i guess thats Zen4.
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#5720288 Posted on: 10/14/2019 11:44 AM
I want way lower latency. Under 30ns
Low latency AND high corecount is the future
I want way lower latency. Under 30ns
Low latency AND high corecount is the future
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#5720294 Posted on: 10/14/2019 12:09 PM
https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2019/05/27/socket-am4-platform-longevity-getting-ryzen-3000-ready
"With the launch of the AM4 platform in 2016, we at AMD made a commitment to maintain and support socket AM4 through 2020."
That's not it m8.
The best source we have is a slide with the next Epic (and Zen3), clearly states PCIe gen 4 and DDR4.
New socket will probably come with DDR5, and that's due for 2021.
https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2019/05/27/socket-am4-platform-longevity-getting-ryzen-3000-ready
"With the launch of the AM4 platform in 2016, we at AMD made a commitment to maintain and support socket AM4 through 2020."
That's not it m8.
The best source we have is a slide with the next Epic (and Zen3), clearly states PCIe gen 4 and DDR4.
New socket will probably come with DDR5, and that's due for 2021.
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#5720298 Posted on: 10/14/2019 12:21 PM
That large unified cache should by itself be enough to raise IPC by a few percent.
Add a few tweaks left and right and 10% is definitely possible.
As for the clocks... well, something went wrong with the production of current Zen 2 (it got delayed.... twice), and still barely any higher clocks than Zen1 +
Apparently this first 7nm round wasn't as good as expected.
But with almost one year of further developments, it should definitely do much better and make 4.5 Ghz and up commonplace.
That large unified cache should by itself be enough to raise IPC by a few percent.
Add a few tweaks left and right and 10% is definitely possible.
As for the clocks... well, something went wrong with the production of current Zen 2 (it got delayed.... twice), and still barely any higher clocks than Zen1 +
Apparently this first 7nm round wasn't as good as expected.
But with almost one year of further developments, it should definitely do much better and make 4.5 Ghz and up commonplace.
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#5720303 Posted on: 10/14/2019 12:48 PM
https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2019/05/27/socket-am4-platform-longevity-getting-ryzen-3000-ready
"With the launch of the AM4 platform in 2016, we at AMD made a commitment to maintain and support socket AM4 through 2020."
Well Zen3 is not announced yet, could be 2021.
Support could also just mean driver updates, security fixes, software improvements. Not commitment to keep CPU working on the same motherboards.
https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2019/05/27/socket-am4-platform-longevity-getting-ryzen-3000-ready
"With the launch of the AM4 platform in 2016, we at AMD made a commitment to maintain and support socket AM4 through 2020."
Well Zen3 is not announced yet, could be 2021.
Support could also just mean driver updates, security fixes, software improvements. Not commitment to keep CPU working on the same motherboards.
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#5720307 Posted on: 10/14/2019 12:58 PM
Nice one. Now if they can increase their clocks then Zen3 is going to be a little beast!
Nice one. Now if they can increase their clocks then Zen3 is going to be a little beast!
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I hope this is actual IPC gains and not overall performance gains. If that is the case and we see a 10% IPC gain with say a 5% clock boost then the next Ryzen generation will be amazing!