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Rumor: Samsung working on OLED TVs merged with Quantum dots
Thus far it is a rumor, however one posted at the Korea Herald. Samsung would be making a very interesting move for the OLED aficionados as the company is making efforts to produce quantum dot organic light-emitting diode panels. This OLED screens with QLEDs.
Samsung Display CEO Lee Dong-hoon told The Korea Herald, “The company is making good efforts” to launch QD-OLED panels in the near future. QD-OLED refers to hybrid displays that use both OLED and quantum dots.
There have not been any investment plans on QD-OLED production confirmed by the company so far. The Samsung panel maker decided to shut down one of its Gen.8.5 LCD lines with monthly capacity of 90,000 units in Asan, South Chungcheong Province, this month, and it will cut 30,000 units at another line starting next month. The company used to produce 250,000 LCD panels in South Korea every month. Samsung reportedly plans to convert the line that is slated to close into a QD-OLED production line.
It had been rumored since last year that the Samsung affiliate would make around 10 trillion won ($8.3 billion) worth of investments in QD-OLED in April, but this hasn’t taken place yet.
This could become a very interesting OLED race, as currently .. LG holds an exclusive patent on OLED screens. Int he past Samsung literally had to purchase LG sceens to put them in the Samsung models.
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#5702001 Posted on: 08/20/2019 01:43 PM
Probably because micro LED is so expensive to make that it will never reach the consumer market.
Probably because micro LED is so expensive to make that it will never reach the consumer market.
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#5702014 Posted on: 08/20/2019 01:58 PM
for now
till the tech mature and mass-producing become easy and everyone making it like in few years, it will be cheap like rest of tech we using now
if it stay expensive, then it wont get nowhere, like plasma-display, it went eol replaced with things that "reasonable" to produce
Probably because micro LED is so expensive to make that it will never reach the consumer market.
for now
till the tech mature and mass-producing become easy and everyone making it like in few years, it will be cheap like rest of tech we using now
if it stay expensive, then it wont get nowhere, like plasma-display, it went eol replaced with things that "reasonable" to produce
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#5702108 Posted on: 08/20/2019 04:00 PM
Because it will be a decade before a microled display exists that you can afford. They literally dont even know how to manufacture display sized panels. All they've been able to do is make smaller ones and piece them together. They had one at CES and the only thing anyone talked about was the gaps that could be seen because of it.
We'll see it in phone/VR sized panels in the near-term, but you won't own an mLED monitor or TV for years and years.
Why would they make QD-OLED when they're already working on Micro LED?
Because it will be a decade before a microled display exists that you can afford. They literally dont even know how to manufacture display sized panels. All they've been able to do is make smaller ones and piece them together. They had one at CES and the only thing anyone talked about was the gaps that could be seen because of it.
We'll see it in phone/VR sized panels in the near-term, but you won't own an mLED monitor or TV for years and years.
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#5702115 Posted on: 08/20/2019 04:04 PM
Samsung hasn't been able to figure out how to keep the red and green QD's from leaking blue light. They have had to resort to using a color filter, which will pretty much nullify any advantage they would have had. Judging by the color volume of this years QLED sets, i wouldn't be surprised to see these show up with a lower color volume than LG's panels.
Samsung hasn't been able to figure out how to keep the red and green QD's from leaking blue light. They have had to resort to using a color filter, which will pretty much nullify any advantage they would have had. Judging by the color volume of this years QLED sets, i wouldn't be surprised to see these show up with a lower color volume than LG's panels.
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#5702119 Posted on: 08/20/2019 04:09 PM
So won't fix burn or life span of OLEDs. Its understandable why Samsung wants to push OLED as they have invested a lot of money into it. But OLED is not the future and you are better to buy a comparable LED that isn't cheap and looks just as close to OLED without the burn in issues. Or wait for micro led tech.
So won't fix burn or life span of OLEDs. Its understandable why Samsung wants to push OLED as they have invested a lot of money into it. But OLED is not the future and you are better to buy a comparable LED that isn't cheap and looks just as close to OLED without the burn in issues. Or wait for micro led tech.
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#5702126 Posted on: 08/20/2019 04:13 PM
This isn't a thing. There's a reason that OLED sweeps the television shootouts every single year. It's never even a competition.
comparable LED that isn't cheap and looks just as close to OLED without the burn in issues.
This isn't a thing. There's a reason that OLED sweeps the television shootouts every single year. It's never even a competition.
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#5702127 Posted on: 08/20/2019 04:13 PM
OLEDs 1st came out over 20 years ago. Useful only for mp3 players. But there nobody had to care about burn-in, those lovely bright and saturated displays went dim in few years.
While color TFTs from that time are still working today.
Probably because micro LED is so expensive to make that it will never reach the consumer market.
OLEDs 1st came out over 20 years ago. Useful only for mp3 players. But there nobody had to care about burn-in, those lovely bright and saturated displays went dim in few years.
While color TFTs from that time are still working today.
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#5702155 Posted on: 08/20/2019 04:53 PM
@ttnuagmada
put it in a bright room and see how much of that "best rated" picture you can see on an oled vs lcd.
or the fact i have ppl with sub 2y old LG (oleds) with burn in, while the customers that bought the A1E dont.
we had both brands side by side running for one year (9-9 every day), and the LG showed burn in on the LG (shown after each vid),
when the sony didn't (even the HDR/4K logo displayed throughout all videos).
having the patent vs being the one that came up with the tech is completely different...
@ttnuagmada
put it in a bright room and see how much of that "best rated" picture you can see on an oled vs lcd.
or the fact i have ppl with sub 2y old LG (oleds) with burn in, while the customers that bought the A1E dont.
we had both brands side by side running for one year (9-9 every day), and the LG showed burn in on the LG (shown after each vid),
when the sony didn't (even the HDR/4K logo displayed throughout all videos).
having the patent vs being the one that came up with the tech is completely different...
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#5702159 Posted on: 08/20/2019 04:57 PM
@ttnuagmada
put it in a bright room and see how much of that "best rated" picture you can see on an oled vs lcd.
PQ goes out the window almost entirely in a bright room. Anything better than an edgelit LCD in that environment is a complete waste. Besides, an OLED is still going to be superior to 90% of LCD sets in this scenario anyway. This idea that OLEDs are "dim" is one of the biggest loads of BS.
or the fact i have ppl with sub 2y old LG (oleds) with burn in, while the customers that bought the A1E dont.
we had both brands side by side running for one year (9-9 every day), and the LG showed burn in on the LG (shown after each vid),
when the sony didn't (even the HDR/4K logo displayed throughout all videos).
having the patent vs being the one that came up with the tech is completely different...
I don't even know what point it is you're trying to make. Burn in is a thing, but it's a very uncommon thing. People treat it like the boogieman just like they did with plasma, and it was insanely overblown then too. Running the same thing on an OLED for 12 hours per day is how you get burn-in. Typical usage scenarios are not.
Aside from all of that, you do realize that the Sony OLEDs have the exact same panels as the LG's right?
@ttnuagmada
put it in a bright room and see how much of that "best rated" picture you can see on an oled vs lcd.
PQ goes out the window almost entirely in a bright room. Anything better than an edgelit LCD in that environment is a complete waste. Besides, an OLED is still going to be superior to 90% of LCD sets in this scenario anyway. This idea that OLEDs are "dim" is one of the biggest loads of BS.
or the fact i have ppl with sub 2y old LG (oleds) with burn in, while the customers that bought the A1E dont.
we had both brands side by side running for one year (9-9 every day), and the LG showed burn in on the LG (shown after each vid),
when the sony didn't (even the HDR/4K logo displayed throughout all videos).
having the patent vs being the one that came up with the tech is completely different...
I don't even know what point it is you're trying to make. Burn in is a thing, but it's a very uncommon thing. People treat it like the boogieman just like they did with plasma, and it was insanely overblown then too. Running the same thing on an OLED for 12 hours per day is how you get burn-in. Typical usage scenarios are not.
Aside from all of that, you do realize that the Sony OLEDs have the exact same panels as the LG's right?
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#5702161 Posted on: 08/20/2019 05:03 PM
They are pretty dim man. I agree with you that in a bright room the quality goes out the window regardless but it's definitely worse on OLED.
PQ goes out the window almost entirely in a bright room. Anything better than an edgelit LCD in that environment is a complete waste. Besides, an OLED is still going to be superior to 90% of LCD sets in this scenario anyway. This idea that OLEDs are "dim" is one of the biggest loads of BS.
They are pretty dim man. I agree with you that in a bright room the quality goes out the window regardless but it's definitely worse on OLED.
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#5702163 Posted on: 08/20/2019 05:05 PM
Oh sure, some of the higher end LCD's get a lot brighter, but the OLEDs still get plenty bright in any scenario save for very high APL like hockey or something. Typical movie/TV APL will be plenty bright. Calling them dim is just silly however.
I will say though, if you're watching TV in a bright room, you're wasting money on anything better than a mid-range LCD set.
They are pretty dim man. I agree with you that in a bright room the quality goes out the window regardless but it's definitely worse on OLED.
Oh sure, some of the higher end LCD's get a lot brighter, but the OLEDs still get plenty bright in any scenario save for very high APL like hockey or something. Typical movie/TV APL will be plenty bright. Calling them dim is just silly however.
I will say though, if you're watching TV in a bright room, you're wasting money on anything better than a mid-range LCD set.
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#5702164 Posted on: 08/20/2019 05:05 PM
If you put a OLED and a LED in a normal light room, the LED will blow the OLED out of the water.
If you put a OLED and a LED in a normal light room, the LED will blow the OLED out of the water.
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#5702170 Posted on: 08/20/2019 05:11 PM
Except for pretty much any scenario that doesn't involve direct sunlight.
If you put a OLED and a LED in a normal light room, the LED will blow the OLED out of the water.
Except for pretty much any scenario that doesn't involve direct sunlight.
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#5702171 Posted on: 08/20/2019 05:13 PM
Lol no. I went from a 55" Samsung LED to a 65" LG OLED - my living room is pretty bright in the morning when the sun is coming up, basically shines directly into the room and the LCD definitely was way better there but in normal light (sun not directly on TV) and obviously darkness the OLED is better.
If you put a OLED and a LED in a normal light room, the LED will blow the OLED out of the water.
Lol no. I went from a 55" Samsung LED to a 65" LG OLED - my living room is pretty bright in the morning when the sun is coming up, basically shines directly into the room and the LCD definitely was way better there but in normal light (sun not directly on TV) and obviously darkness the OLED is better.
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Why would they make QD-OLED when they're already working on Micro LED?