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Rumor: Ryzen 7000 processors all get integrated graphics
The rumor mill the past years has been in 6th gear, and apparently, we're now already talking Ryzen series 7000/ ZEN4. It's a fresh rumor though. See One difference between Intel and AMD is that all their processors have an integrated GPU (iGPU), activated or not.
At the end that is more profitable for intel, as they only have one product to fabricate. AMD has two lines, their APUs, and separated the desktop processors. Basically, that's two different architectures, and this a lot of overhead. Well, that might change with the start of the Ryzen series 7000. Several roadmaps now indicate some of the plans that AMD has, and a Reddit user collected information from multiple sources of the internet and put it together in the image seen below. Although this roadmap has similarities with statements already officially made by AMD, it still a lot of speculation.
But here's how that shapes up to be:
Ryzen 6000 would be based on 6000 Rembrandt architecture (Zen 3+) and Barcelo (Zen 3). New is the (apparent) addition of Navi graphics to Raphael, the Zen 4-based Ryzen 7000 desktop chips. According to users on ChipHell, AMD will switch to an I/O die fabricated at 6 nm with this generation. There would be n IGP in every AMD processor. Phoenix, the Ryzen mobile Ryzen 7000 chip, coming to the desktop as well, would contain a stronger, newer graphic piece based on RDNA 3. It is reported that AMD has internally set the target to achieve 50 percent better performance per watt with RDNA 3 compared to RDNA 2. The step to DDR5 memory may mean that this computing power can also be performed well in an APU.
| Product name | Code name | Architecture | Process | Graphics | Memory | PCI-e |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ryzen 5000 | Vermeer | Zen 3 | 7 nm | - | ddr4 | 4.0 |
| Ryzen 5000G | Cezanne | Zen 3 | 7 nm | Vega | ddr4 | 3.0 |
| Lucienne | Zen 2 | 7 nm | Vega | ddr4 | 3.0 | |
| Ryzen 6000 | Warhol | Zen 3+ | 6 nm | - | ddr4 | 4.0 |
| Ryzen 6000G | Rembrandt | Zen 3+ | 6 nm | RDNA 2 | ddr5 | 4.0 |
| Barcelo | Zen 3 | 7 nm | Vega | ddr4 | 3.0 | |
| Ryzen 7000 | Raphael | Zen 4 | 5 nm | RDNA 2? | ddr5 | 5.0 |
| Ryzen 7000G | Phoenix | Zen 4 | 5 nm | RDNA 3? | ddr5 | 5.0 |
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#5902534 Posted on: 04/06/2021 12:12 PM
Systems that use the iGPU as a boost have almost always been shown as slower than not bothering.
Personally I think it's a waste of die space, never really understood why intel put one in the higher end i7 and i9 desktops. If you don't want a powerful GPU then there are plenty of passive basic cards for under £50.
Systems that use the iGPU as a boost have almost always been shown as slower than not bothering.
Personally I think it's a waste of die space, never really understood why intel put one in the higher end i7 and i9 desktops. If you don't want a powerful GPU then there are plenty of passive basic cards for under £50.
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#5902540 Posted on: 04/06/2021 12:29 PM
probably can't pair a weak and a strong GPU... but a weak and mid CPU might be a decent pair. It all depends on software implementation tho.. and that never had any decent track record.
in which cases can you pair a weak and strong gpu together? Which applications?
probably can't pair a weak and a strong GPU... but a weak and mid CPU might be a decent pair. It all depends on software implementation tho.. and that never had any decent track record.
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#5902542 Posted on: 04/06/2021 12:31 PM
On Ryzen when you put an GPU in it there is the main PCIe X16 that work at X8, so they need more PCIe lane to put them on all the CPU range... impossible on AM4.
On AM5 it seem to be possible.
Good point.
good.they're stupid for not putting it on their chips earilier.
On Ryzen when you put an GPU in it there is the main PCIe X16 that work at X8, so they need more PCIe lane to put them on all the CPU range... impossible on AM4.
On AM5 it seem to be possible.
Good point.
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#5902545 Posted on: 04/06/2021 12:43 PM
On Ryzen when you put an GPU in it there is the main PCIe X16 that work at X8, so they need more PCIe lane to put them on all the CPU range... impossible on AM4.
On AM5 it seem to be possible.
Good point.
what ?
On Ryzen when you put an GPU in it there is the main PCIe X16 that work at X8, so they need more PCIe lane to put them on all the CPU range... impossible on AM4.
On AM5 it seem to be possible.
Good point.
what ?
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Milking what? The hardware or trying to milk the people? Because the people buying these CPUs are folks like me who are on near-ancient hardware.