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Rumor: Massive Cache Size Increase for Intel Raptor Lake Processors
Intel's Raptor Lake-S desktop processor would contain up to 68 MB of "total cache" (L2 and L3 cache). In consonance with what AMD is doing with the pending Ryzen 7 5800X3D and 3D Vertical Cache technology.
The concept was posted on Twitter by PC enthusiast OneRaichu and illustrated by Olrak29. The "Raptor Lake-S" silicon is projected to comprise eight "Raptor Cove" P-core clusters and four "Gracemont" E-core clusters (each cluster amounts to four cores). Compared to the 1.25 MB dedicated L2 cache found in the "Golden Cove" P-core found in "Alder Lake-S," the "Raptor Cove" core is supposed to feature a dedicated L2 cache of 2 MB in "Raptor Cove." A "Gracemont" E-core cluster contains four CPU cores that share an L2 cache. With the introduction of "Alder Lake," Intel expects to quadruple the size of the L2 cache for E-core clusters from 2 MB per cluster to 4 MB per cluster. Compared to "Alder Lake-S" (C0 silicon), the shared L3 cache on "Raptor Lake-S" (C1 silicon) has increased from 30 megabytes to 36 megabytes. As a result, the total size of the L2 and L3 caches is 68 MB. Everybody's attention is now focused on "Zen 4," and whether or not AMD would expand the size of L2 caches from the 512 KB per-core size that AMD has maintained consistently since the first "Zen."
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#5984013 Posted on: 01/18/2022 03:36 PM
What makes you think anyone doesn't know that, or that it's always technically correct? It's irrelevant to what I said either way, what I said is correct regardless of how you want to spin it.
The problem is that it's a waste of silicon in a desktop environment, save for very niche cases. I'd hardly call that solved.
How is having more power envelope available for the cores working on your foreground application, a niche case?
What makes you think anyone doesn't know that, or that it's always technically correct? It's irrelevant to what I said either way, what I said is correct regardless of how you want to spin it.
The problem is that it's a waste of silicon in a desktop environment, save for very niche cases. I'd hardly call that solved.
How is having more power envelope available for the cores working on your foreground application, a niche case?
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#5985201 Posted on: 01/20/2022 06:13 PM
If the use-case of the slower cores would be for background applications, 2 would have been enough.
How is having more power envelope available for the cores working on your foreground application, a niche case?
If the use-case of the slower cores would be for background applications, 2 would have been enough.
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#5985205 Posted on: 01/20/2022 06:34 PM
The desktop environment is not comprised of only gamers. In fact gamers are a small subset of desktop users.
Exactly how did you come to such a ridiculous conclusion?
That is like saying
The desktop environment is not comprised of only Overclockers. In fact Overclockers are a small subset of desktop users.
Exactly how did you come to such a ridiculous conclusion?
Most People think both are true here... not all though
I welcome the E-Cores for lite work like web browsing and what not, but as of now there P/E core cpu use MORE power then normal CPU in idle last i looked anyway. IF there E-core can run the OS functions will P-cores run the my game or what ever I doing that would be great. right now it remains to been seen what happens going forward but e/p core is promising on desktop if done right
If people dont want e-core turn the freaking thing thing off like HT people went on how they hamper performance and said better to turn em off, so turn it off.
The desktop environment is not comprised of only gamers. In fact gamers are a small subset of desktop users.
Exactly how did you come to such a ridiculous conclusion?
That is like saying
The desktop environment is not comprised of only Overclockers. In fact Overclockers are a small subset of desktop users.
Exactly how did you come to such a ridiculous conclusion?
Most People think both are true here... not all though
I welcome the E-Cores for lite work like web browsing and what not, but as of now there P/E core cpu use MORE power then normal CPU in idle last i looked anyway. IF there E-core can run the OS functions will P-cores run the my game or what ever I doing that would be great. right now it remains to been seen what happens going forward but e/p core is promising on desktop if done right
If people dont want e-core turn the freaking thing thing off like HT people went on how they hamper performance and said better to turn em off, so turn it off.
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#5985208 Posted on: 01/20/2022 06:38 PM
armchair generals got nothing on armchair engineers
just unload them in Taiwan, Israel, Ireland whatever; give them unlimited resources, contracts and contacts, and they'll build you a fire!
sht you not
How is having more power envelope available for the cores working on your foreground application, a niche case?
armchair generals got nothing on armchair engineers
just unload them in Taiwan, Israel, Ireland whatever; give them unlimited resources, contracts and contacts, and they'll build you a fire!
sht you not
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Zen4 vs Raptor gona be nice battle .