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Rumor: Launch Date and Product Lineup for AMD Ryzen 7000 Zen 4 Processors
AMD's Ryzen 7000 Zen 4 lineup could include a Ryzen 9 7950X Flagship. AMD's next-generation CPUs will use the Zen 4 CPU. A leaked photograph from AMD China's "dealer promotion meeting" yesterday suggests Socket AM5 CPUs will be released on September 15.
The business could unveil the Ryzen 9 7950X, Ryzen 9 7900X, Ryzen 7 7800X, and Ryzen 5 7600X. These SKUs replace 5950X, 5900X, 5800X, and 5600X. AMD recently told us that 16-core/32-thread is the limit for the 7000 series, making the 7950X such a CPU. All these devices feature Socket AM5, PCI-Express Gen 5, and DDR5 connections.
A photo has recently surfaced on Twitter via the @wxnod account, most likely from a Chinese AMD dealer briefing. It was apparently about the upcoming Ryzen series, and the presentation artwork for the AM5 socket indicates that it will go on sale on September 15th. The Ryzen 5000 was introduced in November 2020, therefore the Ryzen 7000 release date would be surprising. Whether the photo is authentic cannot be confirmed. The date should therefore be viewed with a certain degree of skepticism.
Another rumor is that a Socket AM4 CPU with Zen 4 chiplets is said to be compatible with the existing cIOD, which supports PCI-Express Gen 4 and DDR4 interfaces. The story began with supply-chain sources (resellers). AMD is unsure whether it can target the low-end market with AM5 and whether low-cost DDR5 will arrive on time. Zen 4 + AM4 motherboards with DDR4 and PCIe Gen 4 connectivity would compete with Intel 600-series chipset motherboards.
If that date is correct, we'll be there in less than three months.
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#6026764 Posted on: 06/20/2022 01:31 PM
That is dumb imo. 7700 should be the sweet spot generating the most sales. I'll bet Intel will take advantage of that.
And again no 7600 non-x and 7700x so probably another round of 300$ 6core and 450$ 8core cpus.
That is dumb imo. 7700 should be the sweet spot generating the most sales. I'll bet Intel will take advantage of that.
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#6026771 Posted on: 06/20/2022 01:39 PM
Hopefuly they do so amd has to respond with 7700. Same thing happend with 5700x but it was too late.
That is dumb imo. 7700 should be the sweet spot generating the most sales. I'll bet Intel will take advantage of that.
Hopefuly they do so amd has to respond with 7700. Same thing happend with 5700x but it was too late.
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#6026797 Posted on: 06/20/2022 02:50 PM
It mostly depends where do you want to position yourself.
The perf difference between a b450 system with good ddr4 and a 5800x are probably not that much from a wildly more expensive 7x00X when it comes out, with new mobos and DDR5. With the GPU always being the cost bottleneck.
DDR5 is no more crazy to buy, but to be an investement now, that we do not know which kit are going to come out in the next 6-10 months, isn't true.
There is a good chance the ddr5 you buy now is low tier at christmas
Basically this ^.
I'd say, that if you can't wait and memory bandwidth is your top priority, go for DDR5. If you still can't wait, but you're not so concerned about memory bandwidth (or you're on a budget), go for DDR4 and put the saved money into a part that's more important to you. If you CAN wait, I would give it another 9-12 months before getting into DDR5 - let the prices drop and the supply channel clear out of earlier generations of DDR5.
It mostly depends where do you want to position yourself.
The perf difference between a b450 system with good ddr4 and a 5800x are probably not that much from a wildly more expensive 7x00X when it comes out, with new mobos and DDR5. With the GPU always being the cost bottleneck.
DDR5 is no more crazy to buy, but to be an investement now, that we do not know which kit are going to come out in the next 6-10 months, isn't true.
There is a good chance the ddr5 you buy now is low tier at christmas
Basically this ^.
I'd say, that if you can't wait and memory bandwidth is your top priority, go for DDR5. If you still can't wait, but you're not so concerned about memory bandwidth (or you're on a budget), go for DDR4 and put the saved money into a part that's more important to you. If you CAN wait, I would give it another 9-12 months before getting into DDR5 - let the prices drop and the supply channel clear out of earlier generations of DDR5.
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#6026817 Posted on: 06/20/2022 04:48 PM
if true, this is a super bonus for the consumer.
on the other hand as an AIB might notice...they'll make many times more money on a mobo than a firmware update. but this is all up to AMD.
as noted elsewhere DDR5 prices have dropped as fabs have stepped up production. all DDR4 will see its EOL except for niche fabbing, despite the market conditions because AMD and Intel have moved away from it.
my take depends on where your pc $ have been spent in the last year.
if you bought a ryzen 5800X3D, pass for another (at least) year.
if you've taken advantage of gpu prices at or below MSRP in the last three months - go for that firmware update IF AM4 ryzen 4 shows up. you just got finished spending smart money - go ahead and digest for awhile.
but if you've been waiting for a new chipset/cpu/gpu - don't bother with AM 4. same for all new systems especially Alder Lake. i'm not a huge fan of Raptor Lake, but it will have a significant upgrade to AL if you're buying Intel. reality is Intel's competition for Ryzen 4 is Meteor Lake but you probably don't want to wait that long.
MSI’s BETA X570 BIOS For AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU Allows Users To Tweak VCore, Precision Boost & Curve Optimizer.
For those who want to try out the BIOS, you can download the 'E7C35AMS.AD3' file here.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w4jAulAFETGvZRTg-AE2ikTjbIVnzeUP/view
https://www.techpowerup.com/295983/amd-ryzen-7000-zen-4-launch-date-and-lineup-revealed-spectacular-am4-rumor-surfaces
Although AMD led us to believe that it's going all-in with DDR5, we're hearing a spectacular rumor that suggests otherwise. Apparently, the company is designing Socket AM4 processors with "Zen 4" chiplets, possibly paired with the existing cIOD that supports PCI-Express Gen 4 and DDR4 interfaces. The rumor surfaced among sources lower down the supply-chain (resellers). It seems like AMD isn't convinced it could target the lower-end of the market with AM5 just yet, and isn't 100% confident that affordable DDR5 memory will come through in time. The "Zen 4" + AM4 processors would compete with Intel 600-series chipset motherboards that have DDR4 and PCIe Gen 4 connectivity.
For those who want to try out the BIOS, you can download the 'E7C35AMS.AD3' file here.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w4jAulAFETGvZRTg-AE2ikTjbIVnzeUP/view
https://www.techpowerup.com/295983/amd-ryzen-7000-zen-4-launch-date-and-lineup-revealed-spectacular-am4-rumor-surfaces
Although AMD led us to believe that it's going all-in with DDR5, we're hearing a spectacular rumor that suggests otherwise. Apparently, the company is designing Socket AM4 processors with "Zen 4" chiplets, possibly paired with the existing cIOD that supports PCI-Express Gen 4 and DDR4 interfaces. The rumor surfaced among sources lower down the supply-chain (resellers). It seems like AMD isn't convinced it could target the lower-end of the market with AM5 just yet, and isn't 100% confident that affordable DDR5 memory will come through in time. The "Zen 4" + AM4 processors would compete with Intel 600-series chipset motherboards that have DDR4 and PCIe Gen 4 connectivity.
if true, this is a super bonus for the consumer.
on the other hand as an AIB might notice...they'll make many times more money on a mobo than a firmware update. but this is all up to AMD.
as noted elsewhere DDR5 prices have dropped as fabs have stepped up production. all DDR4 will see its EOL except for niche fabbing, despite the market conditions because AMD and Intel have moved away from it.
my take depends on where your pc $ have been spent in the last year.
if you bought a ryzen 5800X3D, pass for another (at least) year.
if you've taken advantage of gpu prices at or below MSRP in the last three months - go for that firmware update IF AM4 ryzen 4 shows up. you just got finished spending smart money - go ahead and digest for awhile.
but if you've been waiting for a new chipset/cpu/gpu - don't bother with AM 4. same for all new systems especially Alder Lake. i'm not a huge fan of Raptor Lake, but it will have a significant upgrade to AL if you're buying Intel. reality is Intel's competition for Ryzen 4 is Meteor Lake but you probably don't want to wait that long.
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It mostly depends where do you want to position yourself.
The perf difference between a b450 system with good ddr4 and a 5800x are probably not that much from a wildly more expensive 7x00X when it comes out, with new mobos and DDR5. With the GPU always being the cost bottleneck.
DDR5 is no more crazy to buy, but to be an investement now, that we do not know which kit are going to come out in the next 6-10 months, isn't true.
There is a good chance the ddr5 you buy now is low tier at christmas
You can always play with it and tighten up the timings, increase the frequency from lets say 5600 cl 40 to 6000 cl 36. @nizzen got 7000 cl 30 out of his hynix kit.
Anyone who bought an alder lake with ddr5 motherboard has more options like buying a raptor lake cpu and faster ram in the future squeezing more performance on the same platform.