Updated: Intel to announce Core i9-9900XE HEDT Basin Falls Refresh Processors

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 10/08/2018 05:51 PM | source: | 23 comment(s)

Lots of announcements today, but there's a new rumor that next to the Coffee lake-S 9th gen, Intel will also release 9th Gen Core HEDT products. That would be Skylake-X refreshes though.

The new flagship product would be the 9980XE and comes with 18-cores and 36-threads. The clock frequencies at the time of writing are not shared, neither has any info been announced on this. These will be an entirely refresh range:

Core i9-9980XE (18 Core)
Core i9-9960X (16 Core)
Core i9-9940X (14 Core)
Core i9-9920X (12 Core)
Core i9-9900X (10 Core)
Core i9-9820X (8 Core)
Core i7-9800X (6 Core)

Update: Intel indeed releases seven new CPUs. The top model mentioned has 18 cores and operates at 3.0 GHz with a maximum Turbo clock frequency of 4.4 GHz. In addition to the 18-core model, there are also copies with 16, 14, 12, 10 and 8 cores. The picture below shows specifications and prices.

The new Skylake-X processors have soldered the heatspreader, which should improve the overclocking capabilities.

Processor	Architecture	C / T	Clock/turbo2/ turbo3	L3 cache	Pcie-lanes	Memory	Tdp	price
Core i9-9980XE	Skylake-X	18/36	3 / 4.4 / 4.5 GHz	24.75MB	68	ddr4-2666	165W	$ 1979
Core i9-7980XE	Skylake-X	18/36	2.6 / 4.2 / 4.4GHz	24.75MB	44	ddr4-2666	165W	$ 1999
Core i9-9960X	Skylake-X	16/32	3.1 / 4.4 / 4.5GHz	22MB	68	ddr4-2666	165W	$ 1684
Core i9-7960X	Skylake-X	16/32	2.8 / 4.2 / 4.4GHz	22MB	44	ddr4-2666	165W	$ 1699
Core i9-9940X	Skylake-X	14/28	3.3 / 4.4 / 4.5GHz	19.25MB	68	ddr4-2666	165W	$ 1387
Core i9-7940X	Skylake-X	14/28	3.1 / 4.3 / 4.4GHz	19.25MB	44	ddr4-2666	165W	$ 1399
Core i9-9920X	Skylake-X	12/24	3.5 / 4.4 / 4.5GHz	19.25MB	68	ddr4-2666	140W	$ 1189
Core i9-7920X	Skylake-X	12/24	2.9 / 4.3 / 4.5GHz	16.5MB	44	ddr4-2666	140W	$ 1199
Core i9-9900X	Skylake-X	10/20	3.5 / 4.3 / 4.5GHz	19.25MB	68	ddr4-2666	140W	$ 989
Core i9-7900X	Skylake-X	10/20	3.3 / 4.3 / 4.5GHz	13.75MB	44	ddr4-2666	140W	$ 999
Core i7-9820X	Skylake-X	10/20	3.3 / 4.1 / 4.2GHz	16.5MB	68	ddr4-2666	140W	$ 899
Core i7-7820X	Skylake-X	8/16	3,6 / 4,3 / 4,5GHz	11MB	28	ddr4-2666	140W	$ 599
Core i7-9800X	Skylake-X	8/16	3.8 / 4.4 / 4.5 GHz	16.5MB	68	ddr4-2400	140W	$ 589
Core i7-7800X	Skylake-X	6/12	3.5 / 4.0GHz / -	8.25MB	28	ddr4-2400	140W	$ 389

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D3M1G0D
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#5594238 Posted on: 10/09/2018 01:26 PM

Thermal Design Power. With goo between chip and IHS, you need stronger cooler on IHS to keel IHS cooler, because heat transfer between Chip and IHS is poor.

Use solder between Chip and IHS, and suddenly weaker cooling is enough as temperature difference between Chip and IHS is much smaller. (heat resistance is smaller)

Power consumption can be same as before.
If I'm not mistaken, both the 9900K and the new X-series chips use STIM.

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#5594243 Posted on: 10/09/2018 01:30 PM

If I'm not mistaken, both the 9900K and the new X-series chips use STIM.

That's why they need less powerful cooling.

CPU has target temperature. If you have 2x exactly same chip, exactly same IHS and one is soldered while other uses goo... Use of same cooler will make soldered one cooler.

Question is if solder + 95W cooler can keep it as cool as goo +140W cooler.

Edit: I see now what you meant. Then it is differentiation of performance target through Power limitation. Unless user manually unlocks power limits, 9900K will start downclock more under heavy multithreaded stress.

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#5594362 Posted on: 10/09/2018 05:21 PM

At least they kept the PCIE lanes at 68 across the board. Those wanting an Intel 8-core dont have to take less PCIE lanes now. Its a bit funny how much of what Intel has done in the last year is simply refreshing the current products to come up to parity with AMD. Thanks AMD.

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