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Updated: Intel to announce Core i9-9900XE HEDT Basin Falls Refresh Processors
Lots of announcements today, but there's a new rumor that next to the Coffee lake-S 9th gen, Intel will also release 9th Gen Core HEDT products. That would be Skylake-X refreshes though.
The new flagship product would be the 9980XE and comes with 18-cores and 36-threads. The clock frequencies at the time of writing are not shared, neither has any info been announced on this. These will be an entirely refresh range:
- Core i9-9980XE (18 Core)
- Core i9-9960X (16 Core)
- Core i9-9940X (14 Core)
- Core i9-9920X (12 Core)
- Core i9-9900X (10 Core)
- Core i9-9820X (8 Core)
- Core i7-9800X (6 Core)
Update: Intel indeed releases seven new CPUs. The top model mentioned has 18 cores and operates at 3.0 GHz with a maximum Turbo clock frequency of 4.4 GHz. In addition to the 18-core model, there are also copies with 16, 14, 12, 10 and 8 cores. The picture below shows specifications and prices.
The new Skylake-X processors have soldered the heatspreader, which should improve the overclocking capabilities.
| Processor | Architecture | C / T | Clock/turbo2/ turbo3 | L3 cache | Pcie-lanes | Memory | Tdp | price |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Core i9-9980XE | Skylake-X | 18/36 | 3 / 4.4 / 4.5 GHz | 24.75MB | 68 | ddr4-2666 | 165W | $ 1979 |
| Core i9-7980XE | Skylake-X | 18/36 | 2.6 / 4.2 / 4.4GHz | 24.75MB | 44 | ddr4-2666 | 165W | $ 1999 |
| Core i9-9960X | Skylake-X | 16/32 | 3.1 / 4.4 / 4.5GHz | 22MB | 68 | ddr4-2666 | 165W | $ 1684 |
| Core i9-7960X | Skylake-X | 16/32 | 2.8 / 4.2 / 4.4GHz | 22MB | 44 | ddr4-2666 | 165W | $ 1699 |
| Core i9-9940X | Skylake-X | 14/28 | 3.3 / 4.4 / 4.5GHz | 19.25MB | 68 | ddr4-2666 | 165W | $ 1387 |
| Core i9-7940X | Skylake-X | 14/28 | 3.1 / 4.3 / 4.4GHz | 19.25MB | 44 | ddr4-2666 | 165W | $ 1399 |
| Core i9-9920X | Skylake-X | 12/24 | 3.5 / 4.4 / 4.5GHz | 19.25MB | 68 | ddr4-2666 | 140W | $ 1189 |
| Core i9-7920X | Skylake-X | 12/24 | 2.9 / 4.3 / 4.5GHz | 16.5MB | 44 | ddr4-2666 | 140W | $ 1199 |
| Core i9-9900X | Skylake-X | 10/20 | 3.5 / 4.3 / 4.5GHz | 19.25MB | 68 | ddr4-2666 | 140W | $ 989 |
| Core i9-7900X | Skylake-X | 10/20 | 3.3 / 4.3 / 4.5GHz | 13.75MB | 44 | ddr4-2666 | 140W | $ 999 |
| Core i7-9820X | Skylake-X | 10/20 | 3.3 / 4.1 / 4.2GHz | 16.5MB | 68 | ddr4-2666 | 140W | $ 899 |
| Core i7-7820X | Skylake-X | 8/16 | 3,6 / 4,3 / 4,5GHz | 11MB | 28 | ddr4-2666 | 140W | $ 599 |
| Core i7-9800X | Skylake-X | 8/16 | 3.8 / 4.4 / 4.5 GHz | 16.5MB | 68 | ddr4-2400 | 140W | $ 589 |
| Core i7-7800X | Skylake-X | 6/12 | 3.5 / 4.0GHz / - | 8.25MB | 28 | ddr4-2400 | 140W | $ 389 |
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#5594195 Posted on: 10/09/2018 12:08 PM
So, $1200 for Intel's 12c/24t processor...
or...
$1300 for AMDs 24c/48t processor...
Hm....such a tough decision.
Sadly these will still sell, to someone, for some...reason....
So, $1200 for Intel's 12c/24t processor...
or...
$1300 for AMDs 24c/48t processor...
Hm....such a tough decision.
Sadly these will still sell, to someone, for some...reason....
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#5594212 Posted on: 10/09/2018 12:40 PM
So, $1200 for Intel's 12c/24t processor...
or...
$1300 for AMDs 24c/48t processor...
Hm....such a tough decision.
Sadly these will still sell, to someone, for some...reason....
tl;dr: I do agree with you, but intel does not need to care.
- - - -
Intel does not need to sell them. That's why price is still high. Who wants them will have to pay.
That's because reason for "shortage" of CPUs comes from intel making 14nm chips for others, having limited remaining capacity for themselves.
This means they just pack boxes and send them to those who ordered them => money. And that's why they stated that they will have no problem to meet revenue target... as their production capacity is not lower, and plants are fully utilized.
Do you think they would rent their production capacity if making CPUs and selling them was more profitable? Only if they had spare capacity. But they actually reduced their own production, this clearly means they make more cash from Forge-as-a-Service.
As result, AMD can eat entire CPU business for year or two and intel will not feel a thing. Only damage will come from loss of mindshare as big companies may look bit more objectively on AMD vs. intel solution and consider AMD's options as something that may actually do job more economically.
Hell, since intel started talking about GPU and hired Koduri who gave dog Sh*7 about gaming, but enthusiastically talked about compute... I wrote around that time: "intel's GPU will be primary compute one". Maybe even AI-focused.
In few years intel may shift their core business form CPUs to GPUs for servers.
So, $1200 for Intel's 12c/24t processor...
or...
$1300 for AMDs 24c/48t processor...
Hm....such a tough decision.
Sadly these will still sell, to someone, for some...reason....
tl;dr: I do agree with you, but intel does not need to care.
- - - -
Intel does not need to sell them. That's why price is still high. Who wants them will have to pay.
That's because reason for "shortage" of CPUs comes from intel making 14nm chips for others, having limited remaining capacity for themselves.
This means they just pack boxes and send them to those who ordered them => money. And that's why they stated that they will have no problem to meet revenue target... as their production capacity is not lower, and plants are fully utilized.
Do you think they would rent their production capacity if making CPUs and selling them was more profitable? Only if they had spare capacity. But they actually reduced their own production, this clearly means they make more cash from Forge-as-a-Service.
As result, AMD can eat entire CPU business for year or two and intel will not feel a thing. Only damage will come from loss of mindshare as big companies may look bit more objectively on AMD vs. intel solution and consider AMD's options as something that may actually do job more economically.
Hell, since intel started talking about GPU and hired Koduri who gave dog Sh*7 about gaming, but enthusiastically talked about compute... I wrote around that time: "intel's GPU will be primary compute one". Maybe even AI-focused.
In few years intel may shift their core business form CPUs to GPUs for servers.
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#5594217 Posted on: 10/09/2018 12:48 PM
Core i7-9800X Skylake-X 8/16 3.8 / 4.4 / 4.5 GHz 140W $ 589
How the 9900k gets only 95w of tdp?
same cache, similar clock speeds.
Price went down a bit if you compare what you were getting with the same money on the 7920x vs 9800x
Core i7-9800X Skylake-X 8/16 3.8 / 4.4 / 4.5 GHz 140W $ 589
How the 9900k gets only 95w of tdp?
same cache, similar clock speeds.
Price went down a bit if you compare what you were getting with the same money on the 7920x vs 9800x
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#5594225 Posted on: 10/09/2018 01:05 PM
Core i7-9800X Skylake-X 8/16 3.8 / 4.4 / 4.5 GHz 140W $ 589
How the 9900k gets only 95w of tdp?
same cache, similar clock speeds.
Price went down a bit if you compare what you were getting with the same money on the 7920x vs 9800x
Thermal Design Power. With goo between chip and IHS, you need stronger cooler on IHS to keel IHS cooler, because heat transfer between Chip and IHS is poor.
Use solder between Chip and IHS, and suddenly weaker cooling is enough as temperature difference between Chip and IHS is much smaller. (heat resistance is smaller)
Power consumption can be same as before.
Core i7-9800X Skylake-X 8/16 3.8 / 4.4 / 4.5 GHz 140W $ 589
How the 9900k gets only 95w of tdp?
same cache, similar clock speeds.
Price went down a bit if you compare what you were getting with the same money on the 7920x vs 9800x
Thermal Design Power. With goo between chip and IHS, you need stronger cooler on IHS to keel IHS cooler, because heat transfer between Chip and IHS is poor.
Use solder between Chip and IHS, and suddenly weaker cooling is enough as temperature difference between Chip and IHS is much smaller. (heat resistance is smaller)
Power consumption can be same as before.
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