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Rumor: Intel and AMD to present Kaby lake and Zen in January 2017
At least that info reaches us through Digitimes. Intel would plan an introduction at CES with that processir series called Kaby. During that same time-frame the same time AMD would reveal processors based on its new Zen architecture.
The site speaks of a slight delay, analysts initially expected introductions of these processors late in 2016. Officially though AMD and Intel have not really shared a anctual launch date.
AMD late last year already kinda announced that the first Zen processors would appear no earlier than the end of 2016, but nothing was final of course. For Intel some roadmaps with the first Core Y and U-processors for laptops based on the Kaby Lake generation would be released midway through the third quarter of 2016 followed by desktop products later in 2016.
Zen will be a significant step forward for AMD in regard to its processors with much better ipc performance. Kaby Lake is expected to be a modest update for Intel processors. That generation is the third step in Intel's "process-architecture-optimization' strategy. The chips are similar to Broadwell and Skylake produced on 14nm, but do contain some optimizations.
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#5286042 Posted on: 06/08/2016 11:18 AM
Me too. Looks like my Zen build will have to wait a while longer
Me too. Looks like my Zen build will have to wait a while longer
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#5286043 Posted on: 06/08/2016 11:20 AM
Gives me more time to save up and do a system overhaul.
Gives me more time to save up and do a system overhaul.
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#5286047 Posted on: 06/08/2016 11:26 AM
Cool - HBM2 cards and new CPUs will be available next year. 2017 upgrade, here I come
Cool - HBM2 cards and new CPUs will be available next year. 2017 upgrade, here I come
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#5286059 Posted on: 06/08/2016 11:56 AM
hum... between new cpu gen and 1080-ti, i might sell my whole rig and start from scratch
hum... between new cpu gen and 1080-ti, i might sell my whole rig and start from scratch
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#5286068 Posted on: 06/08/2016 12:08 PM
Why anyone would wait for Kaby Lake is beyond me. It'll off nothing new in terms of performance over skylake, just a couple new features and official support for 2400Mhz memory.
Zen maybe, but I doubt Zen will compete with Skylake or Kaby Lake on the IPC front.
Surely anyone on Haswell or older if they want an upgrade might aswell get straight on Skylake or just wait for Canonlake a little later as at least that'll be 10nm, might get something more out of that.
Why anyone would wait for Kaby Lake is beyond me. It'll off nothing new in terms of performance over skylake, just a couple new features and official support for 2400Mhz memory.
Zen maybe, but I doubt Zen will compete with Skylake or Kaby Lake on the IPC front.
Surely anyone on Haswell or older if they want an upgrade might aswell get straight on Skylake or just wait for Canonlake a little later as at least that'll be 10nm, might get something more out of that.
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#5286072 Posted on: 06/08/2016 12:19 PM
Why anyone would wait for Kaby Lake is beyond me. It'll off nothing new in terms of performance over skylake, just a couple new features and official support for 2400Mhz memory.
Zen maybe, but I doubt Zen will compete with Skylake or Kaby Lake on the IPC front.
Surely anyone on Haswell or older if they want an upgrade might aswell get straight on Skylake or just wait for Canonlake a little later as at least that'll be 10nm, might get something more out of that.
Kabylake supports Optane. People keep forgetting that.
Why anyone would wait for Kaby Lake is beyond me. It'll off nothing new in terms of performance over skylake, just a couple new features and official support for 2400Mhz memory.
Zen maybe, but I doubt Zen will compete with Skylake or Kaby Lake on the IPC front.
Surely anyone on Haswell or older if they want an upgrade might aswell get straight on Skylake or just wait for Canonlake a little later as at least that'll be 10nm, might get something more out of that.
Kabylake supports Optane. People keep forgetting that.
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#5286086 Posted on: 06/08/2016 12:41 PM
Why anyone would wait for Kaby Lake is beyond me. It'll off nothing new in terms of performance over skylake, just a couple new features and official support for 2400Mhz memory.
Zen maybe, but I doubt Zen will compete with Skylake or Kaby Lake on the IPC front.
Surely anyone on Haswell or older if they want an upgrade might aswell get straight on Skylake or just wait for Canonlake a little later as at least that'll be 10nm, might get something more out of that.
depends on the situations i guess
if really need upgrade then probably not worth wait kaby lake
like u said cpu performance not increasing much, thus for upgrading, especially to people just want new cpu (not urgent)
why need to hurry to rush getting skylake ?
why not wait abit longer for new - better cpu ?
Why anyone would wait for Kaby Lake is beyond me. It'll off nothing new in terms of performance over skylake, just a couple new features and official support for 2400Mhz memory.
Zen maybe, but I doubt Zen will compete with Skylake or Kaby Lake on the IPC front.
Surely anyone on Haswell or older if they want an upgrade might aswell get straight on Skylake or just wait for Canonlake a little later as at least that'll be 10nm, might get something more out of that.
depends on the situations i guess
if really need upgrade then probably not worth wait kaby lake
like u said cpu performance not increasing much, thus for upgrading, especially to people just want new cpu (not urgent)
why need to hurry to rush getting skylake ?
why not wait abit longer for new - better cpu ?
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#5286090 Posted on: 06/08/2016 12:44 PM
If AMD really is pushing it to next year, and this isn't just another baseless rumour, it must mean the yields from the new 14nm process are abysmal. I hope that only applies to Zen and not also to GPUs. AMD is surely finished if they can't get any new GPUs out when Nvidia is apparently already planning to release a 1060 as well, and based on the 1070 & 1080, they have got no problems whatsoever.
If AMD really is pushing it to next year, and this isn't just another baseless rumour, it must mean the yields from the new 14nm process are abysmal. I hope that only applies to Zen and not also to GPUs. AMD is surely finished if they can't get any new GPUs out when Nvidia is apparently already planning to release a 1060 as well, and based on the 1070 & 1080, they have got no problems whatsoever.
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#5286091 Posted on: 06/08/2016 12:47 PM
Interesting. So Kabylake will be first to support optane? Not that i completely understand what is it though but i heard/read something about it.
Kabylake supports Optane. People keep forgetting that.
Interesting. So Kabylake will be first to support optane? Not that i completely understand what is it though but i heard/read something about it.
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#5286096 Posted on: 06/08/2016 01:04 PM
More information on optane.
https://newsroom.intel.com/press-kits/introducing-intel-optane-technology-bringing-3d-xpoint-memory-to-storage-and-memory-products/
Interesting. So Kabylake will be first to support optane? Not that i completely understand what is it though but i heard/read something about it.
More information on optane.
https://newsroom.intel.com/press-kits/introducing-intel-optane-technology-bringing-3d-xpoint-memory-to-storage-and-memory-products/
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#5286100 Posted on: 06/08/2016 01:19 PM
Kabylake supports Optane. People keep forgetting that.
Lol Your right, I did forget about that one. Not sure that alone would make me wait. Its mostly for storage solutions right? I think the M.2 PCI3.0 NVMe that I'll buy will see me good for a while
How fast is Optane going to be?
depends on the situations i guess
if really need upgrade then probably not worth wait kaby lake
like u said cpu performance not increasing much, thus for upgrading, especially to people just want new cpu (not urgent)
why need to hurry to rush getting skylake ?
why not wait abit longer for new - better cpu ?
Think thats the biggest problem in forums, people don't really need an upgrade, but want a new toy to play with and they feel the need to justify buying a new toy and get mad when they don't see the performance increase they feel they need to buy it. If I want it I just buy it and don't care about justifying **** lol
Kabylake supports Optane. People keep forgetting that.
Lol Your right, I did forget about that one. Not sure that alone would make me wait. Its mostly for storage solutions right? I think the M.2 PCI3.0 NVMe that I'll buy will see me good for a while
How fast is Optane going to be?
depends on the situations i guess
if really need upgrade then probably not worth wait kaby lake
like u said cpu performance not increasing much, thus for upgrading, especially to people just want new cpu (not urgent)
why need to hurry to rush getting skylake ?
why not wait abit longer for new - better cpu ?
Think thats the biggest problem in forums, people don't really need an upgrade, but want a new toy to play with and they feel the need to justify buying a new toy and get mad when they don't see the performance increase they feel they need to buy it. If I want it I just buy it and don't care about justifying **** lol
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#5286104 Posted on: 06/08/2016 01:27 PM
Interesting. So Kabylake will be first to support optane? Not that i completely understand what is it though but i heard/read something about it.
Lol Your right, I did forget about that one. Not sure that alone would make me wait. Its mostly for storage solutions right? I think the M.2 PCI3.0 NVMe that I'll buy will see me good for a while
How fast is Optane going to be?
Well I guess the current problem with Optane/3D Xpoint is that no one knows what consumer facing form it's going to take. The Optane Solid State drives they showed off are really fast, which is nice, but the tech can actually be used for more then just SSDs.
I guess my point is that it has the ability to bring some major changes depending on how Intel finds ways to use it and it's a feature of Kabylake that's often overlooked.
Interesting. So Kabylake will be first to support optane? Not that i completely understand what is it though but i heard/read something about it.
Lol Your right, I did forget about that one. Not sure that alone would make me wait. Its mostly for storage solutions right? I think the M.2 PCI3.0 NVMe that I'll buy will see me good for a while
How fast is Optane going to be?
Well I guess the current problem with Optane/3D Xpoint is that no one knows what consumer facing form it's going to take. The Optane Solid State drives they showed off are really fast, which is nice, but the tech can actually be used for more then just SSDs.
I guess my point is that it has the ability to bring some major changes depending on how Intel finds ways to use it and it's a feature of Kabylake that's often overlooked.
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#5286113 Posted on: 06/08/2016 01:45 PM
Lol Your right, I did forget about that one. Not sure that alone would make me wait. Its mostly for storage solutions right? I think the M.2 PCI3.0 NVMe that I'll buy will see me good for a while
How fast is Optane going to be?
From what I have read it seems to be a storage solution that is so fast you don't need RAM. The CPU will talk directly to the storage without the need to have RAM in the middle. So from that perspective, it's freaking fast. But all we have right now are buzz word filled press releases and nothing to actually look at.
Lol Your right, I did forget about that one. Not sure that alone would make me wait. Its mostly for storage solutions right? I think the M.2 PCI3.0 NVMe that I'll buy will see me good for a while
How fast is Optane going to be?
From what I have read it seems to be a storage solution that is so fast you don't need RAM. The CPU will talk directly to the storage without the need to have RAM in the middle. So from that perspective, it's freaking fast. But all we have right now are buzz word filled press releases and nothing to actually look at.
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#5286117 Posted on: 06/08/2016 01:53 PM
If this rumor is true then AMD can forget about making a comeback... They will have to launch their products before Xmas otherwise people will just go for the Intel CPU. I really think AMD has a good chance this time around, but they will have to play their cards rite. They are already cutting things very tight with Nvidia and their RX 480. But let's all hope this is not true so we can see them shine again.
If this rumor is true then AMD can forget about making a comeback... They will have to launch their products before Xmas otherwise people will just go for the Intel CPU. I really think AMD has a good chance this time around, but they will have to play their cards rite. They are already cutting things very tight with Nvidia and their RX 480. But let's all hope this is not true so we can see them shine again.
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ohhhh 2017?!
I thought candys were for this year.