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RTG 2016 update - AMD Radeon Polaris Architecture Preview
The AMD Radeon Technologies Group is responsible for everything that is related to Radeon graphics cards and APUs. In this January 2016 update we can talk a little more about the new upcoming Radeon architecture called, Polaris.
Read more about it here in this two page article.
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#5214499 Posted on: 01/04/2016 04:04 PM
So then Polaris is a new GCN based architecture?
So then Polaris is a new GCN based architecture?
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#5214503 Posted on: 01/04/2016 04:08 PM
Guessing much of that power savings is due to the 14mm lithography. Once nVidia shrinks their dies and gets HBM2, they will also have substantial power savings. Hilbert, I do appreciate you calling out the apples to oranges comparison they did to the nVidia 950... "our 2016 models are better than the competitions 2015 models (which aren't substantially changed from the 2014 models)!" I should hope so!
Guessing much of that power savings is due to the 14mm lithography. Once nVidia shrinks their dies and gets HBM2, they will also have substantial power savings. Hilbert, I do appreciate you calling out the apples to oranges comparison they did to the nVidia 950... "our 2016 models are better than the competitions 2015 models (which aren't substantially changed from the 2014 models)!" I should hope so!
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#5214512 Posted on: 01/04/2016 04:27 PM
Yeah it would seem that way. Which is honestly good -- AMD doesn't need to waste it's resources redesigning an architecture. GCN is fine. It just needed to bring power consumption down. 14/16nm will obviously help that but the architecture itself needs to bring improvements as well if they want to compete with Nvidia, which I'm sure RTG is doing with Polaris.
I find it really weird that they are dual-sourcing parts out of GF/TSMC. I wonder if 14nm will be restricted to APU stuff. It seems weird that they would have pay the overhead of dual sourcing in their main GPU line.
So then Polaris is a new GCN based architecture?
Yeah it would seem that way. Which is honestly good -- AMD doesn't need to waste it's resources redesigning an architecture. GCN is fine. It just needed to bring power consumption down. 14/16nm will obviously help that but the architecture itself needs to bring improvements as well if they want to compete with Nvidia, which I'm sure RTG is doing with Polaris.
I find it really weird that they are dual-sourcing parts out of GF/TSMC. I wonder if 14nm will be restricted to APU stuff. It seems weird that they would have pay the overhead of dual sourcing in their main GPU line.
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#5214527 Posted on: 01/04/2016 04:56 PM
I agree. Hell, GCN is good enough that AMD is still rebranding GCN 1.0 GPUs (even though nobody seems to really like it when they do that).
As long as both AMD and Nvidia can't figure out how to get decent FPS for 4k screens, working on power efficiency is the next best thing. Both companies have GPUs that are more than good enough for 1080p and sufficient for 2k, so as long as they keep that performance while lowering the watts, I'm happy.
Yeah it would seem that way. Which is honestly good -- AMD doesn't need to waste it's resources redesigning an architecture. GCN is fine. It just needed to bring power consumption down. 14/16nm will obviously help that but the architecture itself needs to bring improvements as well if they want to compete with Nvidia, which I'm sure RTG is doing with Polaris.
I agree. Hell, GCN is good enough that AMD is still rebranding GCN 1.0 GPUs (even though nobody seems to really like it when they do that).
As long as both AMD and Nvidia can't figure out how to get decent FPS for 4k screens, working on power efficiency is the next best thing. Both companies have GPUs that are more than good enough for 1080p and sufficient for 2k, so as long as they keep that performance while lowering the watts, I'm happy.
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