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Rivet Networks introduces the 2.5 Gbps Killer E3000 Ethernet Controller
Rivet Networks announces their Killer E3000 Ethernet Controller, which aims to deliver 2.5 Gbps transfer speeds and be optimized for gaming. The Killer E3000 is installed in desktops, notebooks and motherboards from manufacturers such as Alienware and Acer.
Automatic recognition of game data packets
With Advanced Stream Detect technology important network traffic such as online games and video streaming should be automatically detected, classified and prioritized. The Killer E3000 prioritized games before all other applications and should, therefore, allow a particularly low(er) latency while playing.
Improved software with new features
With the new Ethernet controller and the Killer Wireless AC 1550, the revised Killer Control Center 2.0 is also introduced. The new software is designed to give players more information and control over their network. As usual, priorities can be set for games, applications and web pages, as well as bandwidth limitations. In addition, GameFast and Intelligence Engine are introducing two new features. GameFast is designed to automatically pause processes that are not needed for gaming , providing up to 10 percent more CPU power and 20 percent more memory, according to the manufacturer. According to the manufacturer, players will experience a faster and more responsive gameplay. Intelligence Engine analyzes network health and automatically adjusts the killer settings to improve network performance. If it can not be auto-tuned, Intelligence Engine will suggest to the user how to optimize their network.
E3000 is DoubleShot Pro compatible
The Rivet Networks Killer E3000 is compatible with a killer wireless product DoubleShot Pro. The technology detects the fastest network connection and uses it for prioritized network traffic, while the other connection is used for the rest of the traffic. Users can also decide which applications use the wireless or wired connection.
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#5632303 Posted on: 01/28/2019 10:45 AM
Ah the snake oil company is back with another product that tries to solve a problem that doesn't really exist with a premium price tag.
My mobo has both the E2500 and Intel's 219 LAN ports.
Killer's software caused only problems including their own software freezes and crashes and made various web pages load slower than usual.
The only benefit I could find is playing an online game and downloading things in the background.
And even then it could improve the latency that much.
If you are downloading torrents then you can limit your torrent client's bandwidth so you don't need a "gaming" lan controller.
All in all these products are useless overpriced crap with your usual "gaming" tag on them.
Ah the snake oil company is back with another product that tries to solve a problem that doesn't really exist with a premium price tag.
My mobo has both the E2500 and Intel's 219 LAN ports.
Killer's software caused only problems including their own software freezes and crashes and made various web pages load slower than usual.
The only benefit I could find is playing an online game and downloading things in the background.
And even then it could improve the latency that much.
If you are downloading torrents then you can limit your torrent client's bandwidth so you don't need a "gaming" lan controller.
All in all these products are useless overpriced crap with your usual "gaming" tag on them.
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#5632308 Posted on: 01/28/2019 11:02 AM
I guess I'm not the only one avoiding Killer on any mainboard I buy...
I guess I'm not the only one avoiding Killer on any mainboard I buy...
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#5632355 Posted on: 01/28/2019 01:06 PM
Back when I was building this PC, I purposefully avoided any mobo model with a Killer controller. I had heard too many stories of the trouble they gave people.
Back when I was building this PC, I purposefully avoided any mobo model with a Killer controller. I had heard too many stories of the trouble they gave people.
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#5632366 Posted on: 01/28/2019 01:28 PM
There's nothing wrong with the hardware. Just manually install the driver by downloading the .inf file and direct towards it in the device manger. I do this for many years now and no problems at all.
No reason to avoid motherboards with Killer onboard.
I agree that the software is just one big bloatware mess that should be avoided at any and all costs. Just one big marketing scam.
Why would i need to download crapware do "manage" something with software what my EdgeRouter can do hardware based..
There's nothing wrong with the hardware. Just manually install the driver by downloading the .inf file and direct towards it in the device manger. I do this for many years now and no problems at all.
No reason to avoid motherboards with Killer onboard.
I agree that the software is just one big bloatware mess that should be avoided at any and all costs. Just one big marketing scam.
Why would i need to download crapware do "manage" something with software what my EdgeRouter can do hardware based..
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#5632469 Posted on: 01/28/2019 05:00 PM
What I want to know is how exactly is this software supposed to optimize gaming performance? The only thing I can think of is it detects which port wants to communicate and gives game ports top priority. But if you aren't downloading anything else in the background, all this will do is increase your ping/latency, since this is just 1 more layer the packet information has to go through.
Any sensible gamer would know that if you want to lower your ping, you want to stop downloading stuff.
What I want to know is how exactly is this software supposed to optimize gaming performance? The only thing I can think of is it detects which port wants to communicate and gives game ports top priority. But if you aren't downloading anything else in the background, all this will do is increase your ping/latency, since this is just 1 more layer the packet information has to go through.
Any sensible gamer would know that if you want to lower your ping, you want to stop downloading stuff.
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#5632519 Posted on: 01/28/2019 07:17 PM
What I want to know is how exactly is this software supposed to optimize gaming performance? The only thing I can think of is it detects which port wants to communicate and gives game ports top priority. But if you aren't downloading anything else in the background, all this will do is increase your ping/latency, since this is just 1 more layer the packet information has to go through.
Any sensible gamer would know that if you want to lower your ping, you want to stop downloading stuff.
using QoS, assuming you have everything properly set up on your home network.
What I want to know is how exactly is this software supposed to optimize gaming performance? The only thing I can think of is it detects which port wants to communicate and gives game ports top priority. But if you aren't downloading anything else in the background, all this will do is increase your ping/latency, since this is just 1 more layer the packet information has to go through.
Any sensible gamer would know that if you want to lower your ping, you want to stop downloading stuff.
using QoS, assuming you have everything properly set up on your home network.
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#5632541 Posted on: 01/28/2019 08:01 PM
99.5% of what the Killer software does, or try to do, is QoS. QoS is something that about every half decent router can do hardware based and nobody needs the piss poor software implementation that Killer software offers.
What I want to know is how exactly is this software supposed to optimize gaming performance?
99.5% of what the Killer software does, or try to do, is QoS. QoS is something that about every half decent router can do hardware based and nobody needs the piss poor software implementation that Killer software offers.
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#5632704 Posted on: 01/29/2019 01:23 AM
You all are ignorant. I am posting from the year 2020 with my Killer NIC because it made my latency negative. I get headshots on n00bs before they are even born now.
You all are ignorant. I am posting from the year 2020 with my Killer NIC because it made my latency negative. I get headshots on n00bs before they are even born now.
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#5632719 Posted on: 01/29/2019 02:18 AM
I thought the main advantage was how they handled interrupts. Something about limiting that queue and doing the processing of it on the card.
I thought the main advantage was how they handled interrupts. Something about limiting that queue and doing the processing of it on the card.
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#5632724 Posted on: 01/29/2019 02:37 AM
Did you also tell them that you did their mom before they were born?
You all are ignorant. I am posting from the year 2020 with my Killer NIC because it made my latency negative. I get headshots on n00bs before they are even born now.
Did you also tell them that you did their mom before they were born?
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#5632735 Posted on: 01/29/2019 04:40 AM
No no, that was me, I did their mom before they were born, he just PwN nOoBs...
Did you also tell them that you did their mom before they were born?
No no, that was me, I did their mom before they were born, he just PwN nOoBs...
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#5632736 Posted on: 01/29/2019 04:48 AM
"Killer". Guess they running out of ideas. Can someone name their Ethernet Controller a "Packet Killer"?
I really wish somebody could benchmark those gaming Ethernet solutions compared to normal ones. I bet there literally no change in ping. Maybe a few microseconds.
Selling overpriced hardware to clueless kids is awesome these days.
The "Killer" branding has been around for nearly 20 years.... If memory serves, it was originally started by BigFoot networks, it was later sold to Qualcomm, and now the branding belongs to a company called Rivet Networks.
Killer Wireless NICs were "benchmarked" against Intel Wireless NICs....
I thought the main advantage was how they handled interrupts. Something about limiting that queue and doing the processing of it on the card.
To my knowledge Killer NICs don't have any hardware level features that Intel NICs don't have...and Intel NICs are cheaper.... Without the additional software, the Killer NIC is just a basic NIC at a higher price.
"Killer". Guess they running out of ideas. Can someone name their Ethernet Controller a "Packet Killer"?
I really wish somebody could benchmark those gaming Ethernet solutions compared to normal ones. I bet there literally no change in ping. Maybe a few microseconds.
Selling overpriced hardware to clueless kids is awesome these days.
The "Killer" branding has been around for nearly 20 years.... If memory serves, it was originally started by BigFoot networks, it was later sold to Qualcomm, and now the branding belongs to a company called Rivet Networks.
Killer Wireless NICs were "benchmarked" against Intel Wireless NICs....
I thought the main advantage was how they handled interrupts. Something about limiting that queue and doing the processing of it on the card.
To my knowledge Killer NICs don't have any hardware level features that Intel NICs don't have...and Intel NICs are cheaper.... Without the additional software, the Killer NIC is just a basic NIC at a higher price.
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#5632743 Posted on: 01/29/2019 05:50 AM
I have a Killer NIC and a Intel NIC in my motherboard. No complaints. I use both. And as I understand, the Killer chips are designed and built by Intel.
https://www.killernetworking.com/products/killer-wireless-ac-1550/
I have a Killer NIC and a Intel NIC in my motherboard. No complaints. I use both. And as I understand, the Killer chips are designed and built by Intel.
https://www.killernetworking.com/products/killer-wireless-ac-1550/
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#5632747 Posted on: 01/29/2019 06:22 AM
Damn, I knew it sounded familiar. Gotta educate myself more.
Damn, I knew it sounded familiar. Gotta educate myself more.
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"Killer". Guess they running out of ideas. Can someone name their Ethernet Controller a "Packet Killer"?
I really wish somebody could benchmark those gaming Ethernet solutions compared to normal ones. I bet there literally no change in ping. Maybe a few microseconds.
Selling overpriced hardware to clueless kids is awesome these days.