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Revised AMD Wraith Prism RGB CPU cooler surfaces, has 6 opposed to 4 heatpipes.
If you have bought a high-end Ryzen processor in the past year or so, chances are pretty good that you've received that nice WRAITH Prism cooler bundled with it. Initially, it was released with four heat pipes.
Over in Asia at the Xfastest forums somebody noticed something alright, it seems that a new revision of the Wraith Prism is inbound, this round with six heat pipes which should offer better cooling performance. Currently, Wraith Prism offers support up-to 105 a TDP of 105W.
An interesting fact is that the new revision ahs the exact same model number (712-000075 Rev: C) as the existing model, so it looks like AMD simply will be replacing the old one, with this new one.
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#5753534 Posted on: 01/23/2020 03:27 PM
Probably necessary honestly.. I was having a problem with my computer randomly shutting off (turned out to be a wire short that took me months to find) but part of me figuring out wtf was happening was pulling my computer from my case and running it with the stock wraith cooler. I was constantly hitting like 86-90c with essentially an open test bed in a ~22c room. Was louder than I'd imagine it to be as well.
Probably necessary honestly.. I was having a problem with my computer randomly shutting off (turned out to be a wire short that took me months to find) but part of me figuring out wtf was happening was pulling my computer from my case and running it with the stock wraith cooler. I was constantly hitting like 86-90c with essentially an open test bed in a ~22c room. Was louder than I'd imagine it to be as well.
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#5753555 Posted on: 01/23/2020 04:17 PM
For me these coolers are always handy as back-ups. Especially if you own an AIO, it can happen that it breaks down and unless you want to be "stranded" for 2-3 weeks until the RMA goes through, you'll end up buying some cheap air cooler anyway.
For me these coolers are always handy as back-ups. Especially if you own an AIO, it can happen that it breaks down and unless you want to be "stranded" for 2-3 weeks until the RMA goes through, you'll end up buying some cheap air cooler anyway.
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#5753558 Posted on: 01/23/2020 04:26 PM
I'm using the wraith prism on my 3700X and I can't really complain about the noise unless I'm doing an AVX stress test.
I would have preferred if they simply stopped shipping coolers with CPUs. My Ryzen 2600 stock cooler fan makes a noise I'm not used with (I had a scythe with a 92mm fan that was noiseless). Let us chose what we want.
I'm using the wraith prism on my 3700X and I can't really complain about the noise unless I'm doing an AVX stress test.
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#5753577 Posted on: 01/23/2020 05:17 PM
the new one seem have 6 but more thin?
maybe it is for that they have the same revision 6 thin or 4 thick that have the same heat dissipation.
the new one seem have 6 but more thin?
maybe it is for that they have the same revision 6 thin or 4 thick that have the same heat dissipation.
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#5753590 Posted on: 01/23/2020 07:02 PM
The point of the embedded cooler is that many DIY first timers could buy a wrong cooler.
Completely theyr fault, ok, but an headache for sellers/company/bad advertisement.
Most of us can buy the right cooler, but someone would overshoot, buying an expensive cooler maybe, getting a different impression on the price/performance ratio.
There are a lot of reasons why i think company should provide a tailor made right cooler in retail cpu, or go with the tray version if you can access it.
I remember in the old time of the first p3 on the socket, after the slot one, tray cpus were fairly common and coolers also fairly simple. Still many were not good enough.
The point of the embedded cooler is that many DIY first timers could buy a wrong cooler.
Completely theyr fault, ok, but an headache for sellers/company/bad advertisement.
Most of us can buy the right cooler, but someone would overshoot, buying an expensive cooler maybe, getting a different impression on the price/performance ratio.
There are a lot of reasons why i think company should provide a tailor made right cooler in retail cpu, or go with the tray version if you can access it.
I remember in the old time of the first p3 on the socket, after the slot one, tray cpus were fairly common and coolers also fairly simple. Still many were not good enough.
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#5753625 Posted on: 01/23/2020 08:40 PM
I guess I'm on the other end of the fence, but I like that they include such a nice stock cooler with the proc. A little more cooling potential with a new heat pipe design is even better. The fact that it's snap in is also pretty appealing. Makes for a nice quick build. I would never use the Intel junk coolers, but the wraith variants are pretty decent. I always used hyper 212's on my other builds, so this is pretty similar and a lot easier to install.
I guess I'm on the other end of the fence, but I like that they include such a nice stock cooler with the proc. A little more cooling potential with a new heat pipe design is even better. The fact that it's snap in is also pretty appealing. Makes for a nice quick build. I would never use the Intel junk coolers, but the wraith variants are pretty decent. I always used hyper 212's on my other builds, so this is pretty similar and a lot easier to install.
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#5753682 Posted on: 01/23/2020 11:55 PM
The cooler is adequate, but the fan produces a noise working, I can't describe it as I never heard something similar. A 120 fan can push much more air at low RPM and would be a much better option imo.
I'm using the wraith prism on my 3700X and I can't really complain about the noise unless I'm doing an AVX stress test.
The cooler is adequate, but the fan produces a noise working, I can't describe it as I never heard something similar. A 120 fan can push much more air at low RPM and would be a much better option imo.
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#5753704 Posted on: 01/24/2020 01:39 AM
Is it audible when playing a game?
I'm using the wraith prism on my 3700X and I can't really complain about the noise unless I'm doing an AVX stress test.
Is it audible when playing a game?
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#5753710 Posted on: 01/24/2020 02:00 AM
The cooler is adequate, but the fan produces a noise working, I can't describe it as I never heard something similar. A 120 fan can push much more air at low RPM and would be a much better option imo.
That doesn't really justify doing away with "stock" coolers. Everyone has the option to purchase a cooler from a 3rd party if the noise bothers them.
the new one seem have 6 but more thin?
maybe it is for that they have the same revision 6 thin or 4 thick that have the same heat dissipation.
From the pictures, there doesn't appear to be much difference in heatpipe size. Maybe 1mm difference.....
The cooler is adequate, but the fan produces a noise working, I can't describe it as I never heard something similar. A 120 fan can push much more air at low RPM and would be a much better option imo.
That doesn't really justify doing away with "stock" coolers. Everyone has the option to purchase a cooler from a 3rd party if the noise bothers them.
the new one seem have 6 but more thin?
maybe it is for that they have the same revision 6 thin or 4 thick that have the same heat dissipation.
From the pictures, there doesn't appear to be much difference in heatpipe size. Maybe 1mm difference.....
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#5753717 Posted on: 01/24/2020 02:31 AM
it is but it’s not obnoxious
Is it audible when playing a game?
it is but it’s not obnoxious
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#5753724 Posted on: 01/24/2020 03:30 AM
There no much people who mess with coolers. Most people are happy with stock coolers that come with it. Built 2200g system for a family and having cooler coming with CPU helps a lot.
You won't safe much money by removing cooler, and separating CPU with coolers and not, will add costs. You want better cooler, buy it for yourself.
I would have preferred if they simply stopped shipping coolers with CPUs. My Ryzen 2600 stock cooler fan makes a noise I'm not used with (I had a scythe with a 92mm fan that was noiseless). Let us chose what we want.
There no much people who mess with coolers. Most people are happy with stock coolers that come with it. Built 2200g system for a family and having cooler coming with CPU helps a lot.
You won't safe much money by removing cooler, and separating CPU with coolers and not, will add costs. You want better cooler, buy it for yourself.
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#5753727 Posted on: 01/24/2020 03:44 AM
I love that AMD include decent coolers with all their Ryzen CPU's. As a system builder it just makes them that much more price competitive and easy to work with, 99% of the people i deal with don't want to overclock and for stock settings even the stock cooler for the 3600X (has no heatpipes) keeps it under 90c under full CPU stress/burn test in a 30c room (my standard testing for every system i build), for gaming stress tests its normally bellow 70c.
Of course if my customer wants premium cooling or wants to overclock ill replace it with something better, but being able to have the option to save both myself and my customer some cash is always a good thing.
I love that AMD include decent coolers with all their Ryzen CPU's. As a system builder it just makes them that much more price competitive and easy to work with, 99% of the people i deal with don't want to overclock and for stock settings even the stock cooler for the 3600X (has no heatpipes) keeps it under 90c under full CPU stress/burn test in a 30c room (my standard testing for every system i build), for gaming stress tests its normally bellow 70c.
Of course if my customer wants premium cooling or wants to overclock ill replace it with something better, but being able to have the option to save both myself and my customer some cash is always a good thing.
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#5753785 Posted on: 01/24/2020 09:30 AM
Adequate coolers are nice to be bundled would be nice to see both tray and box versions so who ever wants can save about 10 bucks from something they do not need.i think the vast majority sticks with stock coolers even when they are criminally inadequate.
Adequate coolers are nice to be bundled would be nice to see both tray and box versions so who ever wants can save about 10 bucks from something they do not need.i think the vast majority sticks with stock coolers even when they are criminally inadequate.
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#5753810 Posted on: 01/24/2020 10:54 AM
That doesn't really justify doing away with "stock" coolers. Everyone has the option to purchase a cooler from a 3rd party if the noise bothers them.
From the pictures, there doesn't appear to be much difference in heatpipe size. Maybe 1mm difference.....
1mm is a huge difference in the lengh of a heatpipe...
but as picture are not precise, we don't know
That doesn't really justify doing away with "stock" coolers. Everyone has the option to purchase a cooler from a 3rd party if the noise bothers them.
From the pictures, there doesn't appear to be much difference in heatpipe size. Maybe 1mm difference.....
1mm is a huge difference in the lengh of a heatpipe...
but as picture are not precise, we don't know
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I would have preferred if they simply stopped shipping coolers with CPUs. My Ryzen 2600 stock cooler fan makes a noise I'm not used with (I had a scythe with a 92mm fan that was noiseless). Let us chose what we want.