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Reviews: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 Armor 8G
In this review, we check out the new GeForce RTX 2070 ARMOR edition from MSI. This 499 USD product could be the more interesting product in the GeForce RTX product stack.
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Reviews: ASUS GeForce RTX 2070 Turbo 8GB - 10/16/2018 02:00 PM
NVIDIA today has lifted the embargo for the GeForce RTX 2070. We start off with two reviews today, both will be offered at 499 USD. We have the MSI GeForce RTX 2070 Armor 8G edition and the ASUS Turb...
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In this review we'll check out the all founders' edition from Nvidia, the GeForce GTX 1070 Ti FE. The new 1070 Ti is aimed at and against the Radeon Rx Vega 56 from AMD and obviously sits in-between...
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#5596863 Posted on: 10/16/2018 02:22 PM
Sort of what was expected. Same Timespy score as my old 1080(watercooled) that I gave away.
Shame to see RTX2070 not beating GTX1080Ti. Tradition ruined, or not, cause it's not GTX.
Thanks for review
Well, considering the 2080 pretty much equals 1080ti, I don't think that 2070 beating was/is even a possibility.
Sort of what was expected. Same Timespy score as my old 1080(watercooled) that I gave away.
Shame to see RTX2070 not beating GTX1080Ti. Tradition ruined, or not, cause it's not GTX.
Thanks for review
Well, considering the 2080 pretty much equals 1080ti, I don't think that 2070 beating was/is even a possibility.
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#5596867 Posted on: 10/16/2018 02:30 PM
As expected. 2070 Cheaper and faster than Vega RX.
Another nail to Vegas coffin. RTX 2070 new or 1080ti used is the way now. AMD needs to respond at least with a huge price cut.
Great review as always HH.
As expected. 2070 Cheaper and faster than Vega RX.
Another nail to Vegas coffin. RTX 2070 new or 1080ti used is the way now. AMD needs to respond at least with a huge price cut.
Great review as always HH.
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#5596868 Posted on: 10/16/2018 02:31 PM
Yeah, you right. But Nvidia did some good job on it.
Kinda shame to see Nvidia competing against itself with GTX vs RTX. GTX1070 ($379 MSRP) is still stand its ground for price/performance.
However RTX2070 ($499 MSRP) performs better on DX12 and overall same with DX11 with GTX1080 ($549 MSRP).
So RTX2070 seems like a good pick over GTX1080.
Well, considering the 2080 pretty much equals 1080ti, I don't think that 2070 beating was/is even a possibility.
Yeah, you right. But Nvidia did some good job on it.
Kinda shame to see Nvidia competing against itself with GTX vs RTX. GTX1070 ($379 MSRP) is still stand its ground for price/performance.
However RTX2070 ($499 MSRP) performs better on DX12 and overall same with DX11 with GTX1080 ($549 MSRP).
So RTX2070 seems like a good pick over GTX1080.
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#5596871 Posted on: 10/16/2018 02:35 PM
As expected. 2070 Cheaper and faster than Vega RX.
Another nail to Vegas coffin. RTX 2070 new or 1080ti used is the way now. AMD needs to respond at least with a huge price cut.
Great review as always HH.
Nah they just have to keep delivering RX 5x0 cards at the 120-200$ pricemark and they'll be golden. nvidia doing a 33% price increase for a 12% performance increase is a bit naff.
As expected. 2070 Cheaper and faster than Vega RX.
Another nail to Vegas coffin. RTX 2070 new or 1080ti used is the way now. AMD needs to respond at least with a huge price cut.
Great review as always HH.
Nah they just have to keep delivering RX 5x0 cards at the 120-200$ pricemark and they'll be golden. nvidia doing a 33% price increase for a 12% performance increase is a bit naff.
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#5596872 Posted on: 10/16/2018 02:35 PM
As expected. 2070 Cheaper and faster than Vega RX.
Another nail to Vegas coffin. RTX 2070 new or 1080ti used is the way now. AMD needs to respond at least with a huge price cut.
Great review as always HH.
No no no no no. We are not doing this. Your posts have been trolling AMD, that's not what this topic or this forum is for.
On topic, I think with driver optimizations the 2070 will mature. Might be a decent alternative.
As expected. 2070 Cheaper and faster than Vega RX.
Another nail to Vegas coffin. RTX 2070 new or 1080ti used is the way now. AMD needs to respond at least with a huge price cut.
Great review as always HH.
No no no no no. We are not doing this. Your posts have been trolling AMD, that's not what this topic or this forum is for.
On topic, I think with driver optimizations the 2070 will mature. Might be a decent alternative.
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#5596873 Posted on: 10/16/2018 02:36 PM
thermopads under backplate ?
thermopads under backplate ?
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#5596874 Posted on: 10/16/2018 02:36 PM
Yeah, you right. But Nvidia did some good job on it.
Kinda shame to see Nvidia competing against itself with GTX vs RTX. GTX1070 ($379 MSRP) is still stand its ground for price/performance.
However RTX2070 ($499 MSRP) performs better on DX12 and overall same with DX11 with GTX1080 ($549 MSRP).
So RTX2070 seems like a good pick over GTX1080.
It's 599... not 499.
Yeah, you right. But Nvidia did some good job on it.
Kinda shame to see Nvidia competing against itself with GTX vs RTX. GTX1070 ($379 MSRP) is still stand its ground for price/performance.
However RTX2070 ($499 MSRP) performs better on DX12 and overall same with DX11 with GTX1080 ($549 MSRP).
So RTX2070 seems like a good pick over GTX1080.
It's 599... not 499.
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#5596877 Posted on: 10/16/2018 02:38 PM
AIB cards start at 499, NV Founders is 599.
It's 599... not 499.
AIB cards start at 499, NV Founders is 599.
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#5596878 Posted on: 10/16/2018 02:40 PM
No no no no no. We are not doing this. Your posts have been trolling AMD, that's not what this topic or this forum is for.
On topic, I think with driver optimizations the 2070 will mature. Might be a decent alternative.
Trolling stating obvious things? Where is my trolling? Remove my comments then the ones you don't like I kindly want you do so. Sorry for ruining your experience.
No no no no no. We are not doing this. Your posts have been trolling AMD, that's not what this topic or this forum is for.
On topic, I think with driver optimizations the 2070 will mature. Might be a decent alternative.
Trolling stating obvious things? Where is my trolling? Remove my comments then the ones you don't like I kindly want you do so. Sorry for ruining your experience.
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#5596880 Posted on: 10/16/2018 02:41 PM
This is not up for debate, any more of this conversation will lead to points.
Trolling stating obvious things? Where is my trolling? Remove my comments then the ones you don't like I kindly want you do so. Sorry for ruining your experience.
This is not up for debate, any more of this conversation will lead to points.
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#5596881 Posted on: 10/16/2018 02:42 PM
Why do 2000 series keep getting "recommended"?
They are all obviously bad value, in this case a 2070 is 770 euros and upwards right now.
Sure, maybe in 6 months they'll drop in price and be the new amazing cards every kid and his dog has, but RIGHT NOW they are STILL extremely bad value.
And a 3rd party 1080 which is more or less equal in performance with the tested cards (actually faster on a good model that touches 2000 Mhz boost) costs as low as 520 euro, completely new !
Why in the world would anyone buy 2070 over 1080 for a 50% markup, same performance, same ram size, and NO FREEKING SLI !!!??
This is insane.
Hilbert, please, put NOT YET RECOMMENDED at the end of article.
But ok, I'm barking at the moon here...
Why do 2000 series keep getting "recommended"?
They are all obviously bad value, in this case a 2070 is 770 euros and upwards right now.
Sure, maybe in 6 months they'll drop in price and be the new amazing cards every kid and his dog has, but RIGHT NOW they are STILL extremely bad value.
And a 3rd party 1080 which is more or less equal in performance with the tested cards (actually faster on a good model that touches 2000 Mhz boost) costs as low as 520 euro, completely new !
Why in the world would anyone buy 2070 over 1080 for a 50% markup, same performance, same ram size, and NO FREEKING SLI !!!??
This is insane.
Hilbert, please, put NOT YET RECOMMENDED at the end of article.
But ok, I'm barking at the moon here...
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#5596883 Posted on: 10/16/2018 02:44 PM
But we all know that's never going to happen.
AIB cards start at 499, NV Founders is 599.
But we all know that's never going to happen.
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#5596884 Posted on: 10/16/2018 02:45 PM
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
I might missed it, but GTX1080 numbers in these benchmark are stand for GTX1080 NV Founders edition?
You have issues with announced price? What will happen is up to markets supply and demand.
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
I might missed it, but GTX1080 numbers in these benchmark are stand for GTX1080 NV Founders edition?
But we all know that's never going to happen.
You have issues with announced price? What will happen is up to markets supply and demand.
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#5596885 Posted on: 10/16/2018 02:46 PM
Why do 2000 series keep getting "recommended"?
They are all obviously bad value, in this case a 2070 is 770 euros and upwards right now.
Sure, maybe in 6 months they'll drop in price and be the new amazing cards every kid and his dog has, but RIGHT NOW they are STILL extremely bad value.
And a 3rd party 1080 which is more or less equal in performance with the tested cards (actually faster on a good model that touches 2000 Mhz boost) costs as low as 520 euro, completely new !
Why in the world would anyone buy 2070 over 1080 for a 50% markup, same performance, same ram size, and NO FREEKING SLI !!!??
This is insane.
Hilbert, please, put NOT YET RECOMMENDED at the end of article.
But ok, I'm barking at the moon here...
I mean it's not bad, it's about where performance is for the x70 cards compared to previous generations.
Why do 2000 series keep getting "recommended"?
They are all obviously bad value, in this case a 2070 is 770 euros and upwards right now.
Sure, maybe in 6 months they'll drop in price and be the new amazing cards every kid and his dog has, but RIGHT NOW they are STILL extremely bad value.
And a 3rd party 1080 which is more or less equal in performance with the tested cards (actually faster on a good model that touches 2000 Mhz boost) costs as low as 520 euro, completely new !
Why in the world would anyone buy 2070 over 1080 for a 50% markup, same performance, same ram size, and NO FREEKING SLI !!!??
This is insane.
Hilbert, please, put NOT YET RECOMMENDED at the end of article.
But ok, I'm barking at the moon here...
I mean it's not bad, it's about where performance is for the x70 cards compared to previous generations.
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Shame to see RTX2070 not beating GTX1080Ti. Tradition ruined, or not, cause it's not GTX.
Thanks for review