Reviews: Core i5 10600K and Core i9 10900K processors

#5794535 Posted on: 06/01/2020 04:32 AM

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Probably from a society of Intel fans.

False facts spreader and its propaganda poster doesn't even match. Screenshot says 2160p (4K).
Get that fake news away, thank you. Somebody got fact checked hard

Edit, from more trusted source: https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/metro-exodus-pc-graphics-performance-benchmarks,4.html

#5794553 Posted on: 06/01/2020 06:46 AM

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Probably from a society of Intel fans.

False facts spreader and its propaganda poster doesn't even match. Screenshot says 2160p (4K).
Get that fake news away, thank you. Somebody got fact checked hard

Edit, from more trusted source: https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/metro-exodus-pc-graphics-performance-benchmarks,4.html


It is from the Digital Foundry video that you can find on youtube under the title below. That's a cherry picked screenshot that lasts for about a second or two until things even out. The reviewer even states that early in the test all CPU's are pretty even until you get to that one section of the benchmark near the end. You can also find second long sections where 3700X is beating the 10900K, so not sure how relevant that single anecdotal example is for CPU buyers. Trying a little too hard to justify that purchase if you ask me

#5794554 Posted on: 06/01/2020 06:58 AM

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That's even more sad. Bet I can sell illuminati story in the Intel CPU fan club discord, just add single fact as cherry on top of the story and they gonna start wearing black robes right away

That's some cruel tunnel visioning and echo chamber effect going on.

#5794588 Posted on: 06/01/2020 09:45 AM

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Its when you say things like this no one takes you seriously.



Both of these points are wrong. Most people agree how much Intel has gotten out of 14nm is impressive. And if Intel was on 7nm, they would have pretty much the same power usage. You can't give all this credit to AMD for power usage when its the process that is helping in that area the most, not AMD.

And for the people that seem to think the difference in gaming is only a couple FPS: 1440p, btw.


You did not disprove neither of @PrMinisterGR 's statements.

Zen2 has higher IPC than intel in most of cases, you just clearly do not understand meaning of given term.
And his claim that AMD's CPUs tend to gulp less energy is true too. Clock to Clock, it is not that big difference, but since intel's chips are actually running quite higher clock in most of scenarios, difference is far from small.

Now to the image. Where the hell you got that from? I want to know, because it shows that person is not exactly doing his job right. Or is he?
Image shows much bigger difference than what Hilbert measured. (And that's with 2700X while image has 3700X.)
Then image claims that going from 9900K to 10900K will increase FPS by 26,5% on 4K. Do you really believe that?

Edit: Thanks @NCC1701D for source. As far as CPU "Bound" goes, DF got it wrong. (As is usual for them.)
While they evade showing actual bench of game as much as possible, they did show same area for 1080p. And they did show other areas too.
For example, as character goes to look shortly before train hits the "barricade", on 1080p there of FPS dip, on 1440p, there is smaller fps dip, on 4K there is FPS gain.
How does that happen? Well, engine does certain things per frame. One of them is Asset loading/pre-processing.
When game can pull in usual situation 140fps but goes to area where it can momentarily do 200fps on 1080p, it takes 5ms per frame to make frame. Add some limit for other not-well-optimized thing like loading to 4ms per frame and when it happens fps dips to 111 ... 9ms frametime. But with higher resolution Average areas are going to have lower fps, frametimes are going to be higher and impact of 4ms addition from some extra processing may even happen to look inversely as it does in that particular spot.

And little fun at the end. Depending on how engine is coded, faster storage may lead to bigger fps drops... Let's say engine gives some of its thread 2ms per frame to load data. Then other thread has to process it. But that processing thread is affecting main game thread = problem.

Basically when someone makes claims about something being CPU bound, they should at least provide basic CPU utilization data because there are many other things which may differ from system to system.

#5794589 Posted on: 06/01/2020 09:47 AM

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It is from the Digital Foundry video that you can find on youtube under the title below. That's a cherry picked screenshot that lasts for about a second or two until things even out. The reviewer even states that early in the test all CPU's are pretty even until you get to that one section of the benchmark near the end. You can also find second long sections where 3700X is beating the 10900K, so not sure how relevant that single anecdotal example is for CPU buyers. Trying a little too hard to justify that purchase if you ask me


Same vid at different point in the bench. 3700x, 9900k and 3900x beat the 10900k .




Source Digital Foundry review on YT.