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#5735464 Posted on: 11/27/2019 11:03 AM
Doesn't anyone else notice that history is starting to repeat itself? Only now the players swapped places?
Even the reason its the same. Investing in the GPU part of the tech.
Doesn't anyone else notice that history is starting to repeat itself? Only now the players swapped places?
Even the reason its the same. Investing in the GPU part of the tech.
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#5736066 Posted on: 11/29/2019 12:42 PM
Doesn't anyone else notice that history is starting to repeat itself? Only now the players swapped places?
Even the reason its the same. Investing in the GPU part of the tech.
Indeed. When Intel released their 1st dual core chip, it was two dies stuck together. Ridiculed for it.
Now we're moving back to sticking chips together to leverage scale and yields.
The chiplets will then get "bigger" and more complex as process node shrinks again.
It won't be long until we're in the hundreds of cores category.. Very similar to how GPU's are!
Doesn't anyone else notice that history is starting to repeat itself? Only now the players swapped places?
Even the reason its the same. Investing in the GPU part of the tech.
Indeed. When Intel released their 1st dual core chip, it was two dies stuck together. Ridiculed for it.
Now we're moving back to sticking chips together to leverage scale and yields.
The chiplets will then get "bigger" and more complex as process node shrinks again.
It won't be long until we're in the hundreds of cores category.. Very similar to how GPU's are!

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#5736108 Posted on: 11/29/2019 04:02 PM
Doesn't anyone else notice that history is starting to repeat itself? Only now the players swapped places?
Even the reason its the same. Investing in the GPU part of the tech.
infact every aspect of life is like that
"Life is like a wheel. Sooner or later, it always..." - Stephen King
Doesn't anyone else notice that history is starting to repeat itself? Only now the players swapped places?
Even the reason its the same. Investing in the GPU part of the tech.
infact every aspect of life is like that
"Life is like a wheel. Sooner or later, it always..." - Stephen King
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#5736613 Posted on: 12/01/2019 04:27 PM
3 vs 3 nvme slots
old nvme placement vs new L design
seems better no ? well no, not if you want to actually use your slots and connectors
- rear io ports : a win for Asus
- pcie slots : who really uses 4x pcie x16 ?...more about that below
- sata ports : it's not 8, it's not even 6 it's 4 "real" sata ports + 4x Asmedia from my experience and I'm not the only one asmedia are ok for HDDs not for SSDs while the sequential speeds are ok the random read/writes are way slower than what they should be the Msi has 6 real sata ports
- how many cases have 2x usb-c at the front but only 2 usb-a ? not my lian-li dynamic xl which instead does have 4x usb3.1 + 1x usb3.2 so the creator is perfect for it
- oh yeah I said 4 "real" + 4 asmedia SATA ? my mistake it's actually 4+2 because M2.3 nvme will disable 2 sata ports
- oh yeah again I said 4x pcie x16 ? my mistake it's actually 3+(1x4) as the M2.2 nvme will slow pcie slot no4 to x4 speed
- the main non-shared nvme slot is the one below the gpu pcie slot not very smart temperature wise (unlike msi m2.1 is down right, m2.2 is down left m2.3 is vertical up right)
anyway that is a lot of negatives for me
the people at msi on the other hand know what they are doing
I only found Thunderbolt in the GIGABYTE line... o_O
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Socket-sTRX4
They all have Thunderbolt header and the TRX40 DESIGNARE comes with the Thunderbolt card.
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/TRX40-DESIGNARE-rev-10#kf
The best audio interfaces are Thunderbolt or PCIe
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showpost.php?p=14004379&postcount=3210
The only USB audio interface with good latency is the RME Babyface Pro, all other USB models are meh...
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showpost.php?p=14004379&postcount=3210
EDIT : when I tell people to carefully read motherboards manual here's why
ASUS ROG ZENITH II EXTREME (in stock) vs MSI Creator TRX40 (2 weeks delay)
12 vs 10 usb ports on the rear io
4 pcie x16 slots vs 2+(2x8)
8 sata ports vs 6
2x usb3.2 + 1x usb3.1 vs 1x usb3.2 + 2x usb3.1 (front panel)
4 pcie x16 slots vs 2+(2x8)
8 sata ports vs 6
2x usb3.2 + 1x usb3.1 vs 1x usb3.2 + 2x usb3.1 (front panel)
3 vs 3 nvme slots
old nvme placement vs new L design
seems better no ? well no, not if you want to actually use your slots and connectors
- rear io ports : a win for Asus
- pcie slots : who really uses 4x pcie x16 ?...more about that below
- sata ports : it's not 8, it's not even 6 it's 4 "real" sata ports + 4x Asmedia from my experience and I'm not the only one asmedia are ok for HDDs not for SSDs while the sequential speeds are ok the random read/writes are way slower than what they should be the Msi has 6 real sata ports
- how many cases have 2x usb-c at the front but only 2 usb-a ? not my lian-li dynamic xl which instead does have 4x usb3.1 + 1x usb3.2 so the creator is perfect for it
- oh yeah I said 4 "real" + 4 asmedia SATA ? my mistake it's actually 4+2 because M2.3 nvme will disable 2 sata ports
- oh yeah again I said 4x pcie x16 ? my mistake it's actually 3+(1x4) as the M2.2 nvme will slow pcie slot no4 to x4 speed
- the main non-shared nvme slot is the one below the gpu pcie slot not very smart temperature wise (unlike msi m2.1 is down right, m2.2 is down left m2.3 is vertical up right)
anyway that is a lot of negatives for me

I only found Thunderbolt in the GIGABYTE line... o_O
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Socket-sTRX4
They all have Thunderbolt header and the TRX40 DESIGNARE comes with the Thunderbolt card.
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/TRX40-DESIGNARE-rev-10#kf
The best audio interfaces are Thunderbolt or PCIe
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showpost.php?p=14004379&postcount=3210
The only USB audio interface with good latency is the RME Babyface Pro, all other USB models are meh...
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showpost.php?p=14004379&postcount=3210
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Who wants to buy one? Now its chance to get the 3960x below retail price