Reviews: A GeForce GTX 1660 Threesome - MSI Ventus and Gaming X and Palit StormX

#5650738 Posted on: 03/16/2019 05:32 PM

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1. bit bus means nothing..... because the architectures are completely different. it's like comparing clocks between AMD and Nvidia, pointless
Nvidia has far better compression and VRAM management architecture, look at any performance level Nvidia will always do better with less bandwidth



it dos matter but not in the range of this cheap card
if this card was 256 bit 8g it would run better at higher resolutions and would pass their p/p range imho
nvidia seem to have petty damn good efficacy and they get away with it
believe me I have been bicthing at that since the 6800 to 7600gt days

#5651043 Posted on: 03/18/2019 01:21 AM

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What a shitty card. It is only about 15 percent faster than a GTX 1060, and costs the same as a 1060 did at launch. This card is completely pointless. Anyone looking for a midrange card on the Nvidia side should just buy a 1660 Ti instead for only a few bucks more.

#5651048 Posted on: 03/18/2019 02:12 AM

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GTX 1060 3GB $199 launch price
GTX 1660 $219 launch price
GTX 1060 6GB $249 launch price

I'm assuming you're talking about the 6GB model of the 1060, since the 1660 is a decent bit faster then the 3GB model, in some titles being twice as fast as the 3GB model. Again, assuming you're talking about the 6GB model as well due to the fact that the review on this website doesn't show the 3GB model, and the differences between GTX 1060 3GB and 6GB are not just memory, but overall performance.

So, the GTX 1660 is faster then the GTX 1060 6GB and cost less then it did originally, and much faster then the GTX 1060 3GB and cost more then it did originally.

But i agree to the point you should just get a GTX 1660 ti if you're in the ballpark for this price of graphics card.

Just an example of the differences, but obviously, there are way more games then assassins creed odyssey,

#5651062 Posted on: 03/18/2019 03:10 AM

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Fact is this: Do not care how much ram a graphics card is, UNLESS there is adequate, not one off situations, that show at your resolution you game at means a card with higher amount of ram would be better. ONLY take that singular game into the equation if it is the ONE game you plan on playing 99% of the time, which is up to you, but thats a YOU thing not an overall thing. Stop caring about the amount of ram a graphics card has, and start caring what the overall PERFORMANCE of the card is in the games YOU like to play is.

To be fair, the fact itself that the AMD VRAM hoggers have 1 or 2 games to fall back on in every thread makes the whole "VRAM is king" point moot. We're talking about 1 or 2 games out of hundreds. So yeah, it's actually an epeen muscle flex that just looks really childish.

There's hundreds of games that will completely ignore the 16gb HBM2 on RVII. Also, when you have 99 out of a 100 games not caring whether you have 8gb of VRAM or 11gb or 16gb. There's more to gpu performance than VRAM.

I've been seeing this "future proof" VRAM nonsense for years now. It used to be tiring. Now it's just funny.

"But bro, did you know that if you bought the 128gb R9 390x, it'll be more future proof than the RTX 9900x 16gb?"

Just lol.

#5651073 Posted on: 03/18/2019 06:01 AM

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To be fair, the fact itself that the AMD VRAM hoggers have 1 or 2 games to fall back on in every thread makes the whole "VRAM is king" point moot. We're talking about 1 or 2 games out of hundreds. So yeah, it's actually an epeen muscle flex that just looks really childish.

There's hundreds of games that will completely ignore the 16gb HBM2 on RVII. Also, when you have 99 out of a 100 games not caring whether you have 8gb of VRAM or 11gb or 16gb. There's more to gpu performance than VRAM.

I've been seeing this "future proof" VRAM nonsense for years now. It used to be tiring. Now it's just funny.

"But bro, did you know that if you bought the 128gb R9 390x, it'll be more future proof than the RTX 9900x 16gb?"

Just lol.
haha True!....a 2060 6gb wipes the floor with an 8gb 580 or 590 ...

Edit: I also have a rx480 4GB that will kick the snot out of any 470 8GB .....why waste the vram?

Edit#2: a 1060 3GB totally annihilates a 1050ti 4GB .....again, why waste the vram if you can't utilize it?
and don't get me started on the the more cores War!....
8600k has only 6 and yet




utilization is everything not big numbers......much like the megapixel myth.

#5651143 Posted on: 03/18/2019 11:43 AM

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haha True!....a 2060 6gb wipes the floor with an 8gb 580 or 590 ...

Edit: I also have a rx480 4GB that will kick the snot out of any 470 8GB .....why waste the vram?

Edit#2: a 1060 3GB totally annihilates a 1050ti 4GB .....again, why waste the vram if you can't utilize it?
and don't get me started on the the more cores War!....
8600k has only 6 and yet



It all comes down to making sure you buy the right card for what you're going to be using it for. Because nobody will convince me that a low end card (like r9 480) definitely needs 8gb vram when they're gaming on low/medium settings at 1080p.

#5651229 Posted on: 03/18/2019 04:37 PM

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But, but, but MuLTi-GPu!.!.!!

#5651232 Posted on: 03/18/2019 04:46 PM

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Texture setting is a luxury. Textures does not effect the framerate at all. Its either you have enough vram or you dont.

580 8gb can max out Apex Legends and 1660 6gb cant (insane texture setting) its simple as that.

@airbud7 yeah ok looks like i7 6850k is the fastest cpu right now.

#5651263 Posted on: 03/18/2019 06:17 PM

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Texture setting is a luxury. Textures does not effect the framerate at all. Its either you have enough vram or you dont.

580 8gb can max out Apex Legends and 1660 6gb cant (insane texture setting) its simple as that.

@airbud7 yeah ok looks like i7 6850k is the fastest cpu right now.

1660 ti, with 6GB of ram, gets better performance then the 580 and 590 in apex legends, maxed out, you're so-called theory that the RX 580 8GB is what allows the RX 580 to max it out over a 1660 is moot point at that point, since obviously, if the ti, with the same 6GB of ram, can out perform both the 580 8gb and 590 in apex, the mythical bottleneck you propose is non-existent.

In fact i can barely find any review websites that have tested the 1660 non-ti on apex legends, only one i can find is gamers nexus, which proves you wrong on their review



Now i'll grant you that says high, you said insane, i have not played apex legends so i can't say weather or not high is the highest, or if insane is an actual setting you do can, but point being, there are no reviews that have tested this, and yet you're coming out here claiming as though something is factual, when it's not.

Since you like youtubers so much



But again, it is tested with everything on high, i do see where it states: "Texture Streaming Budget" and that's not set to the highest. I have seen a few youtube channels set it to the highest (insane) and there does not seem to be a difference, that being said, that's not 100% accurate i'm certain since every youtuber i have found so far shows gameplay and fps but does not do a comparison to any other graphics cards.

So where is your mythical deduction about apex legends?



Seems to do "insane", just fine, something you literally, said it "can't"




580 8gb can max out Apex Legends and 1660 6gb cant (insane texture setting) its simple as that.

#5651321 Posted on: 03/18/2019 09:41 PM

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@Undying do you like liking someones post when they call you out and you have nothing to back up your claims? 2nd time you've done this, in this thread alone. Or is it an admit you're wrong like?

If you have something to back up your posts, do it, otherwise i don't understand why you continue to make such outlandish statements with nothing to back it up unless you like to troll, which it seems you do, if you can't back anything up.

You're reminding me of warlord more and more every day, are you two one and the same?

#5651332 Posted on: 03/18/2019 10:04 PM

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@Aura89 Undying is an AMD fan more than I would ever be. He loves his 580 I hate my 390X, no comparison. Lol.

Anyway less vram amount equals bigger performance drop in bigger resolutions in comparison with lower ones only if the amount is the limiter. Raw power overwhelms capacity. That's a well known law.

Useless ram and vram will never offer extra performance. And if any game allows you to play without crashing, then the vram and ram amount is irrelevant.

So, if any game is playable or any app is working with 6gb gtx16 series, it would perform the same even if it had 2 extra gigabytes. If the performance is underwhelming is due to architecture itself.

#5651362 Posted on: 03/19/2019 12:20 AM

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@Aura89 I concur if testing was done with "insane texture setting" but i see some of it is done on high. Its not the same. Anyway, why argue further when we cant agree.

Im actually interested what gpu do you have? You are person smartest here but how much games do you actually play?

Can you post some of yours experience in games or always others?