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#5698441 Posted on: 08/08/2019 12:49 PM
For these prices the ryzen platform is quickly becoming more expensive than intel!!!
Now Ryzen 9 is much more expensive than i 9900k (800 USD vs 480 USD!!!) - nobody talks about that here - and Ryzen 7 3700x on amazon is between 460 - 500 USD while i 9900 k is 485 USD and motherboards for intel are cheaper.
Why would I consider a ryzen 3 cpu for gaming on a new platform when motherboards are so expensive and AMD CPU are in gaming less or equal with intel but with a bigger price for the platform.
After launch prices for ryzen (especially the high performance parts) went up a little too much...
Here (UK), on Amazon, 9900K is 50% more expensive than 3700x and 10% cheaper than 3900x
EDIT: checked Amazon.com prices... the $799 3900x is simply because of 3rd party sellers price-gouging it. It looks like Amazon itself doesn't have it in stock (same for 3700x), but its historical price when sold directly has been $499
For these prices the ryzen platform is quickly becoming more expensive than intel!!!
Now Ryzen 9 is much more expensive than i 9900k (800 USD vs 480 USD!!!) - nobody talks about that here - and Ryzen 7 3700x on amazon is between 460 - 500 USD while i 9900 k is 485 USD and motherboards for intel are cheaper.
Why would I consider a ryzen 3 cpu for gaming on a new platform when motherboards are so expensive and AMD CPU are in gaming less or equal with intel but with a bigger price for the platform.
After launch prices for ryzen (especially the high performance parts) went up a little too much...
Here (UK), on Amazon, 9900K is 50% more expensive than 3700x and 10% cheaper than 3900x
EDIT: checked Amazon.com prices... the $799 3900x is simply because of 3rd party sellers price-gouging it. It looks like Amazon itself doesn't have it in stock (same for 3700x), but its historical price when sold directly has been $499
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#5698442 Posted on: 08/08/2019 12:51 PM
Ryzen 7 3700X is actually 344€ and you can get it even with a 10% discount ( ~325€) here in Germany.
Where and how did you get those prices, man?
Moreover, more expensive than Intel is a overstatement, can we agree on that?
Ryzen 7 3700X is actually 344€ and you can get it even with a 10% discount ( ~325€) here in Germany.
Where and how did you get those prices, man?
Moreover, more expensive than Intel is a overstatement, can we agree on that?
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#5698444 Posted on: 08/08/2019 01:00 PM
I actually swapped to this board from an ASUS X570-E because the ASUS board kept powering off randomly. Few interesting things - It might be because Gigabyte has a newer bios then I had on the x570-E but I can maintain the 4.6Ghz rated boost on my 3900x way more on the Gigabyte then I could on the ASUS. Also the Gigabyte doesn't require you to remove like 9 shrouds to plug a M.2 in. The chipset fan is a little louder on the gigabyte and I prefer ASUS's UEFI layout more but overall I think the Gigabyte is the better board.
I actually swapped to this board from an ASUS X570-E because the ASUS board kept powering off randomly. Few interesting things - It might be because Gigabyte has a newer bios then I had on the x570-E but I can maintain the 4.6Ghz rated boost on my 3900x way more on the Gigabyte then I could on the ASUS. Also the Gigabyte doesn't require you to remove like 9 shrouds to plug a M.2 in. The chipset fan is a little louder on the gigabyte and I prefer ASUS's UEFI layout more but overall I think the Gigabyte is the better board.
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#5698445 Posted on: 08/08/2019 01:00 PM
Ryzen 7 3700X is actually 344€ and you can get it even with a 10% discount ( ~325€) here in Germany.
Where and how did you get those prices, man?
Moreover, more expensive than Intel is a overstatement, can we agree on that?
Ryzen 7 3700X is actually 344€ and you can get it even with a 10% discount ( ~325€) here in Germany.
Where and how did you get those prices, man?
Moreover, more expensive than Intel is a overstatement, can we agree on that?
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#5698447 Posted on: 08/08/2019 01:02 PM
Okay but it's $329 in stock at various retailers.
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-3700x/p/N82E16819113567
https://www.microcenter.com/product/608318/ryzen-7-3700x-36ghz-8-core-am4-boxed-processor-with-wraith-prism-cooler
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-octa-core-3-6-ghz-desktop-processor/6356277.p?skuId=6356277
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1485449-REG/amd-100-100000071box-ryzen-7-3700x-3-6.html
You're comparing marked up prices from 3rd party retailers trying to earn a buck to a MSRP Intel processor then making broad statements about overall costs of the platform.
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Okay but it's $329 in stock at various retailers.
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-3700x/p/N82E16819113567
https://www.microcenter.com/product/608318/ryzen-7-3700x-36ghz-8-core-am4-boxed-processor-with-wraith-prism-cooler
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-octa-core-3-6-ghz-desktop-processor/6356277.p?skuId=6356277
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1485449-REG/amd-100-100000071box-ryzen-7-3700x-3-6.html
You're comparing marked up prices from 3rd party retailers trying to earn a buck to a MSRP Intel processor then making broad statements about overall costs of the platform.
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#5698465 Posted on: 08/08/2019 02:01 PM
For these prices the ryzen platform is quickly becoming more expensive than intel!!!
Now Ryzen 9 is much more expensive than i 9900k (800 USD vs 480 USD!!!) - nobody talks about that here - and Ryzen 7 3700x on amazon is between 460 - 500 USD while i 9900 k is 485 USD and motherboards for intel are cheaper.
Why would I consider a ryzen 3 cpu for gaming on a new platform when motherboards are so expensive and AMD CPU are in gaming less or equal with intel but with a bigger price for the platform.
After launch prices for ryzen (especially the high performance parts) went up a little too much...
Just to note, you don't have to get an x750 board to use Zen 2.
Something to also think about, the 9900k and the chipset for it has been out longer. It's possible to have these cheaper considering how long they've been out, and supply and demand.
For these prices the ryzen platform is quickly becoming more expensive than intel!!!
Now Ryzen 9 is much more expensive than i 9900k (800 USD vs 480 USD!!!) - nobody talks about that here - and Ryzen 7 3700x on amazon is between 460 - 500 USD while i 9900 k is 485 USD and motherboards for intel are cheaper.
Why would I consider a ryzen 3 cpu for gaming on a new platform when motherboards are so expensive and AMD CPU are in gaming less or equal with intel but with a bigger price for the platform.
After launch prices for ryzen (especially the high performance parts) went up a little too much...
Just to note, you don't have to get an x750 board to use Zen 2.
Something to also think about, the 9900k and the chipset for it has been out longer. It's possible to have these cheaper considering how long they've been out, and supply and demand.
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#5698468 Posted on: 08/08/2019 02:08 PM
For these prices the ryzen platform is quickly becoming more expensive than intel!!!
Now Ryzen 9 is much more expensive than i 9900k (800 USD vs 480 USD!!!) - nobody talks about that here - and Ryzen 7 3700x on amazon is between 460 - 500 USD while i 9900 k is 485 USD and motherboards for intel are cheaper.
Why would I consider a ryzen 3 cpu for gaming on a new platform when motherboards are so expensive and AMD CPU are in gaming less or equal with intel but with a bigger price for the platform.
After launch prices for ryzen (especially the high performance parts) went up a little too much...
1. You can use B450 and X470, and even B350 and X370 motherboards for Ryzen 3000 CPUs without any performance or function loss. You can usually use a new Intel CPU with only new motherboards (there are exceptions but this is the usual case)
2. It's more than $400 on Amazon because currently Amazon is out of stock and you can buy it from 3rd parties. But even $440 is cheaper than $485, right?
3. Ryzen 9 starts from $500, having 12 cores, costs nearly the same as a 9900K with 8 cores and destroys it. 3950X is for $750 with twice the number of cores as a 9900K. That 3rd party price only tells that people are buying AMD CPUs like candies. It's 529 EUR on Mindfactory.
Please stop lying, thank you.
It's also funny to read this bs from someone buying a 2080Ti card for $1100-1200, overpriced by 60-70 to a 1080Ti. lol
Again, $440 is cheaper than $485, isn't it?
For these prices the ryzen platform is quickly becoming more expensive than intel!!!
Now Ryzen 9 is much more expensive than i 9900k (800 USD vs 480 USD!!!) - nobody talks about that here - and Ryzen 7 3700x on amazon is between 460 - 500 USD while i 9900 k is 485 USD and motherboards for intel are cheaper.
Why would I consider a ryzen 3 cpu for gaming on a new platform when motherboards are so expensive and AMD CPU are in gaming less or equal with intel but with a bigger price for the platform.
After launch prices for ryzen (especially the high performance parts) went up a little too much...
1. You can use B450 and X470, and even B350 and X370 motherboards for Ryzen 3000 CPUs without any performance or function loss. You can usually use a new Intel CPU with only new motherboards (there are exceptions but this is the usual case)
2. It's more than $400 on Amazon because currently Amazon is out of stock and you can buy it from 3rd parties. But even $440 is cheaper than $485, right?
3. Ryzen 9 starts from $500, having 12 cores, costs nearly the same as a 9900K with 8 cores and destroys it. 3950X is for $750 with twice the number of cores as a 9900K. That 3rd party price only tells that people are buying AMD CPUs like candies. It's 529 EUR on Mindfactory.
Please stop lying, thank you.
It's also funny to read this bs from someone buying a 2080Ti card for $1100-1200, overpriced by 60-70 to a 1080Ti. lol
Again, $440 is cheaper than $485, isn't it?
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#5698470 Posted on: 08/08/2019 02:12 PM
this is the price I can buy the 3700X
https://www.amazon.de/AMD-Ryzen-3700x-Cache-Wraith/dp/B07SXMZLPK/ref=sr-1-1?keywords=3700X&qid=1565269839&s=gateway&sr=8-1
Having Amazon Prime price is reduced to 321 euros. Is this more expensive than Intel's offer?
this is the price I can buy the 3700X
https://www.amazon.de/AMD-Ryzen-3700x-Cache-Wraith/dp/B07SXMZLPK/ref=sr-1-1?keywords=3700X&qid=1565269839&s=gateway&sr=8-1
Having Amazon Prime price is reduced to 321 euros. Is this more expensive than Intel's offer?
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#5698474 Posted on: 08/08/2019 02:32 PM
@barbacot I suggest to google-proof what you post on this forum because 99% of its members do.
We are nerds, we like technology and information, information as accurate as it may be found across the internet.
there is nothing to gain stating otherwise, and everything to lose if you are caught "trolling".
mind the quotations, that means that every individual is presumed NOT guilty until proven otherwise.
So, I wish you keen eyesight and best of luck in finding better prices...if you are to buy something or helping other forum members.
Cheers!
@barbacot I suggest to google-proof what you post on this forum because 99% of its members do.
We are nerds, we like technology and information, information as accurate as it may be found across the internet.
there is nothing to gain stating otherwise, and everything to lose if you are caught "trolling".
mind the quotations, that means that every individual is presumed NOT guilty until proven otherwise.
So, I wish you keen eyesight and best of luck in finding better prices...if you are to buy something or helping other forum members.
Cheers!
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#5698506 Posted on: 08/08/2019 04:14 PM
i managed to buy a Ryzen 3700x @£299 from Amazon UK , it arrives Saturday
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i had to trim my sails a bit this time on the motherboard, an Asus Strix Gaming - E will have to do 'cos the Hero v111 is extortion imho!.
my old FX8350 sits here on my desk, things have certainly changed a lot since i used it.....this is getting to be a very expensive "hobby" now
i managed to buy a Ryzen 3700x @£299 from Amazon UK , it arrives Saturday
.i had to trim my sails a bit this time on the motherboard, an Asus Strix Gaming - E will have to do 'cos the Hero v111 is extortion imho!.
my old FX8350 sits here on my desk, things have certainly changed a lot since i used it.....this is getting to be a very expensive "hobby" now
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#5698514 Posted on: 08/08/2019 04:46 PM
Thats not the regular product page on Amazon. Thats the sort of page you get when a product is out of stock so Amazon lists alternate sellers where its available from.
Thats not the regular product page on Amazon. Thats the sort of page you get when a product is out of stock so Amazon lists alternate sellers where its available from.
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#5698515 Posted on: 08/08/2019 04:46 PM
Do you really need an expensive mobo for a 3700x though? Every review says to leave the chip stock instead of trying for massive overclocks, which the chips aren't capable of anyway. I bought the cheapest X570 board I could find and it works a treat and has all the features I need. 435 total for mobo and 3700x. I would imagine X570 pricing will come down a bit too as time goes on.
Do you really need an expensive mobo for a 3700x though? Every review says to leave the chip stock instead of trying for massive overclocks, which the chips aren't capable of anyway. I bought the cheapest X570 board I could find and it works a treat and has all the features I need. 435 total for mobo and 3700x. I would imagine X570 pricing will come down a bit too as time goes on.
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#5698774 Posted on: 08/09/2019 01:10 PM
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/x570-aorus-master-review,5.html
"stages spread across 7 phases"
It's a 12+2 soc "real phases", no doublers actually. Only manufacturer with access (for now) to a new infineon 16 phase controller. The catch is the power stages are 50amp vs 60 used by the rest of the competition (at this price range). Tho the Extreme has 14+2 +70amp.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/x570-aorus-master-review,5.html
"stages spread across 7 phases"
It's a 12+2 soc "real phases", no doublers actually. Only manufacturer with access (for now) to a new infineon 16 phase controller. The catch is the power stages are 50amp vs 60 used by the rest of the competition (at this price range). Tho the Extreme has 14+2 +70amp.
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#5698793 Posted on: 08/09/2019 02:43 PM
Judging upon my personal experience and upon the info that I gather from the local service-technicians, for a many years now g-byte is the worst producer of mobos that one can find. I would not build my PC on their mobo if it was given to me as a present. And it USED to be a reliable brand (back in the Pentium II/III era)...
Judging upon my personal experience and upon the info that I gather from the local service-technicians, for a many years now g-byte is the worst producer of mobos that one can find. I would not build my PC on their mobo if it was given to me as a present. And it USED to be a reliable brand (back in the Pentium II/III era)...
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For these prices the ryzen platform is quickly becoming more expensive than intel!!!
Now Ryzen 9 is much more expensive than i 9900k (800 USD vs 480 USD!!!) - nobody talks about that here - and Ryzen 7 3700x on amazon is between 460 - 500 USD while i 9900 k is 485 USD and motherboards for intel are cheaper.
Why would I consider a ryzen 3 cpu for gaming on a new platform when motherboards are so expensive and AMD CPU are in gaming less or equal with intel but with a bigger price for the platform.
After launch prices for ryzen (especially the high performance parts) went up a little too much...