Corsair Scimitar Elite RGB gaming mouse review
Cougar 700K Evo keyboard review
Aorus Liquid Cooler 360 review
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X review
Corsair A500 CPU air cooler review
Palit GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER GamingPRO review
Lamptron SM436 PCI fan/RGB controller review
Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora 360 review
PowerColor Radeon RX 5600 XT Red Dragon review
GALAX HOF Pro PCIe 4.0 NVMe review
Review: Strange Brigade PC graphics card benchmark analysis
AMD has added a funny new game towards its software lineup, Strange Brigade is bundled with their selected cards. We wanted to fab a bit of a performance review as the game supports both Vulkan and DirectX 12 but also has a DirectX ASync Compute switch available. That all by itself is handy to check out the current state of Vulkan, and DirectX 12.
Read the performance review here.
Review: Guru3D Rig of the Month - August 2018 - 08/31/2018 08:11 AM
It's the last week of the month, and you know what that means. The August edition of the Guru3D Rig of the month 2018 comes from Belgium, meet Tony, who assembles trucks for a living - his rig lookin...
Review: Samsung X5 Portable SSD (Thunderbolt 3 NVMe) @ 2800 MB/s - 08/31/2018 07:22 AM
Have you ever seen a portable storage unit reach 2800 MB/sec? Well hey now, we review the Samsung X5 Portable SSD (1000GB). This, by far, is the fastest portable storage to date as it is NVMe and Thun...
Quick review: GeChic On-Lap 1102H Portable External Display - 08/30/2018 08:08 AM
So you're on vacation, have a small console but need a display? Or you're working overseas on your laptop but need that bit more screen space? Well, the GeChic On-Lap 1102H Portable External Display...
Review: Asustor AS4004T 10 Gigabit Consumer NAS - 08/28/2018 10:08 AM
Slowly but steadily Multi Gig Ethernet is arriving into the consumer domain. ASUSTOR has released a new NAS with 10 Gigabit Ethernet for the consumer market. Armed with a dual-core processor the AS400...
Review: Codemasters F1 2018 graphics card performance analysis - 08/26/2018 01:34 PM
Codemasters F1 2018 is once again a fun title serving a very specific audience bumped up a notch from the 2017 edition. We'll test the game on the PC platform relative towards graphics card performan...
cryohellinc
Senior Member
Posts: 2903
Joined: 2014-10-20
Senior Member
Posts: 2903
Joined: 2014-10-20
#5580066 Posted on: 08/31/2018 02:54 PM
Great optimization there! How's the game btw?
Great optimization there! How's the game btw?
fatboyslimerr
Junior Member
Posts: 12
Joined: 2015-04-14
Junior Member
Posts: 12
Joined: 2015-04-14
#5580069 Posted on: 08/31/2018 03:06 PM
Maybe it's just me but I thought DX12 and, to an extent, Vulcan were both able to leverage more cores and weren't just about those GHz. Less CPU overhead or at least more balanced CPU overhead or something like that.
It would be more interesting to see these APIs tested on say a 1060, 1080, 570 and Vega 64 with say an FX 8300, Ryzen 5 and something like i7 2600 vs your standard test bench.
Maybe it's just me but I thought DX12 and, to an extent, Vulcan were both able to leverage more cores and weren't just about those GHz. Less CPU overhead or at least more balanced CPU overhead or something like that.
It would be more interesting to see these APIs tested on say a 1060, 1080, 570 and Vega 64 with say an FX 8300, Ryzen 5 and something like i7 2600 vs your standard test bench.
Brisse
Member
Posts: 99
Joined: 2015-05-28
Member
Posts: 99
Joined: 2015-05-28
#5580077 Posted on: 08/31/2018 03:32 PM
IMO you are not praising Vulkan highly enough here. It is an open and portable standard, unlike d3d12 which is proprietary locked down crap. The fact that the developers implemented it alongside d3d12 and that it performs on par is awesome for those of us who doesn't use Windows. While this game has no Linux-port as far as I know, it would still run awesomely on Linux using compatibility layers like Proton or Wine. With Vulkan, it would have pretty much zero extra overhead since the graphics API doesn't have to be translated by the compatability layer. A shame it has Denuvo though, as it's rootkit-like functionallity often causes trouble for compatibility layers. Here's to hoping they remove that crap ASAP.
Doom 2016 is a great example of how awesome compatibility layers can be when using Vulkan:
IMO you are not praising Vulkan highly enough here. It is an open and portable standard, unlike d3d12 which is proprietary locked down crap. The fact that the developers implemented it alongside d3d12 and that it performs on par is awesome for those of us who doesn't use Windows. While this game has no Linux-port as far as I know, it would still run awesomely on Linux using compatibility layers like Proton or Wine. With Vulkan, it would have pretty much zero extra overhead since the graphics API doesn't have to be translated by the compatability layer. A shame it has Denuvo though, as it's rootkit-like functionallity often causes trouble for compatibility layers. Here's to hoping they remove that crap ASAP.
Doom 2016 is a great example of how awesome compatibility layers can be when using Vulkan:
Raider0001
Senior Member
Posts: 412
Joined: 2006-11-25
Senior Member
Posts: 412
Joined: 2006-11-25
#5580078 Posted on: 08/31/2018 03:37 PM
Maybe it's just me but I thought DX12 and, to an extent, Vulcan were both able to leverage more cores and weren't just about those GHz. Less CPU overhead or at least more balanced CPU overhead or something like that.
It would be more interesting to see these APIs tested on say a 1060, 1080, 570 and Vega 64 with say an FX 8300, Ryzen 5 and something like i7 2600 vs your standard test bench.
U do not really need CPU power for games, these are not that complicated tasks (like calculating proteins), U just need something to handle the graphic cards driver according to the performance it is capable of doing and then some for the AI and sound and engine
Maybe it's just me but I thought DX12 and, to an extent, Vulcan were both able to leverage more cores and weren't just about those GHz. Less CPU overhead or at least more balanced CPU overhead or something like that.
It would be more interesting to see these APIs tested on say a 1060, 1080, 570 and Vega 64 with say an FX 8300, Ryzen 5 and something like i7 2600 vs your standard test bench.
U do not really need CPU power for games, these are not that complicated tasks (like calculating proteins), U just need something to handle the graphic cards driver according to the performance it is capable of doing and then some for the AI and sound and engine
Agonist
Senior Member
Posts: 2767
Joined: 2008-10-13
Senior Member
Posts: 2767
Joined: 2008-10-13
#5580079 Posted on: 08/31/2018 03:41 PM
HOLY S***, look at the Fury X go at 4k. Even then 1080p, 1440p results are really good.
HOLY S***, look at the Fury X go at 4k. Even then 1080p, 1440p results are really good.
Fox2232
Senior Member
Posts: 9938
Joined: 2012-07-20
Senior Member
Posts: 9938
Joined: 2012-07-20
#5580080 Posted on: 08/31/2018 03:41 PM
Frametime graphs reads microseconds...
Frametime graphs reads microseconds...
Brisse
Member
Posts: 99
Joined: 2015-05-28
Member
Posts: 99
Joined: 2015-05-28
#5580082 Posted on: 08/31/2018 03:43 PM
Good proof for 4GiB being enough despite seing higher memory usage on cards with >4GiB.
HOLY S***, look at the Fury X go at 4k. Even then 1080p, 1440p results are really good.
Good proof for 4GiB being enough despite seing higher memory usage on cards with >4GiB.
JonasBeckman
Senior Member
Posts: 16034
Joined: 2009-02-25
Senior Member
Posts: 16034
Joined: 2009-02-25
#5580094 Posted on: 08/31/2018 03:57 PM
Deferred render contexts for one thing.
https://docs.nvidia.com/gameworks/content/gameworkslibrary/graphicssamples/d3d-samples/d3d11deferredcontextssample.htm
For AMD I'm not too sure how that works at the moment, doesn't seem to be immediately doable but then again they do use multi-threaded rendering as well so, well I have a lot more to learn on the subject.
https://github.com/GPUOpen-LibrariesAndSDKs/AGS-SDK/issues/20
I do know a lot of games create render threads though, Final Fantasy XV ideally wants a 6 core processor, Assassin's Creed Origins creates a whooping 8 of them and Monster Hunter World has some bug in it so it creates 32 unless restrained though that's not strictly just render threads from how I understand it.
And it's improved or even part of DirectX 12 and Vulkan already without extras or other add-on bits though used well it should improve overall CPU usage but it's spread across more cores and games like AC:O don't scale down very well so it's 8 or nothing and thus quad cores see a bit of stuttering though hexa cores do alright in most situations though CPU usage is pretty high. (Though the game also spends a lot of resources on the WMI thread for some undetermined reason.)
Though I suppose technically you would still be correct, it's less about power (clock speed.) and more about using the additional cores logical or physical for modern processors more fully though it doesn't hurt to have both especially with modern PC ports being a bit, wonky, and that's being generous for how some of them turned out ha ha.
(Although a few are also genuinely demanding and push hardware to it's limits adding various enhancements in the process.)
I suppose efficiency doesn't hurt either, depending on extensions and what type of instruction it is modern processors can be quite a bit faster but overall I guess a GPU limit is still the most common but CPU and RAM certainly helps too, sometimes surprisingly so.
U do not really need CPU power for games, these are not that complicated tasks (like calculating proteins), U just need something to handle the graphic cards driver according to the performance it is capable of doing and then some for the AI and sound and engine
Deferred render contexts for one thing.
https://docs.nvidia.com/gameworks/content/gameworkslibrary/graphicssamples/d3d-samples/d3d11deferredcontextssample.htm
For AMD I'm not too sure how that works at the moment, doesn't seem to be immediately doable but then again they do use multi-threaded rendering as well so, well I have a lot more to learn on the subject.
https://github.com/GPUOpen-LibrariesAndSDKs/AGS-SDK/issues/20
I do know a lot of games create render threads though, Final Fantasy XV ideally wants a 6 core processor, Assassin's Creed Origins creates a whooping 8 of them and Monster Hunter World has some bug in it so it creates 32 unless restrained though that's not strictly just render threads from how I understand it.
And it's improved or even part of DirectX 12 and Vulkan already without extras or other add-on bits though used well it should improve overall CPU usage but it's spread across more cores and games like AC:O don't scale down very well so it's 8 or nothing and thus quad cores see a bit of stuttering though hexa cores do alright in most situations though CPU usage is pretty high. (Though the game also spends a lot of resources on the WMI thread for some undetermined reason.)
Though I suppose technically you would still be correct, it's less about power (clock speed.) and more about using the additional cores logical or physical for modern processors more fully though it doesn't hurt to have both especially with modern PC ports being a bit, wonky, and that's being generous for how some of them turned out ha ha.
(Although a few are also genuinely demanding and push hardware to it's limits adding various enhancements in the process.)
I suppose efficiency doesn't hurt either, depending on extensions and what type of instruction it is modern processors can be quite a bit faster but overall I guess a GPU limit is still the most common but CPU and RAM certainly helps too, sometimes surprisingly so.
-Tj-
Senior Member
Posts: 16548
Joined: 2012-05-18
Senior Member
Posts: 16548
Joined: 2012-05-18
#5580107 Posted on: 08/31/2018 04:26 PM
Good to see it released.
Runs great too, but the price is a bit steep atm, will wait a bit unless I get a good deal.
And I see they jumped on that bs dlc season pass too
About threading, their engine was never really optimized for multicore, although things changed since avp2010, nazi zombie army was a lot better.
And from what I saw it's the same vibe now, nothing bad, but to hire same voice actor for story is a bit meh.. always reminds me of NZA series.
Good to see it released.
Runs great too, but the price is a bit steep atm, will wait a bit unless I get a good deal.
And I see they jumped on that bs dlc season pass too
About threading, their engine was never really optimized for multicore, although things changed since avp2010, nazi zombie army was a lot better.
And from what I saw it's the same vibe now, nothing bad, but to hire same voice actor for story is a bit meh.. always reminds me of NZA series.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Don Vito Corleone
Posts: 36965
Joined: 2000-02-22
Don Vito Corleone
Posts: 36965
Joined: 2000-02-22
#5580108 Posted on: 08/31/2018 04:26 PM
Guys the frame time and pacing plots have been updated. I made a mistake and used the improper data-set (totally stupid), that propagated into the plots. This has been updated and fixed now!
Guys the frame time and pacing plots have been updated. I made a mistake and used the improper data-set (totally stupid), that propagated into the plots. This has been updated and fixed now!
Venix
Senior Member
Posts: 1062
Joined: 2016-08-01
Senior Member
Posts: 1062
Joined: 2016-08-01
#5580113 Posted on: 08/31/2018 05:02 PM
i have a feeling this is going to be the new ashes of benchularity ! great performance review HH !
i have a feeling this is going to be the new ashes of benchularity ! great performance review HH !
AlRayes_BRN
Junior Member
Posts: 3
Joined: 2014-03-17
Junior Member
Posts: 3
Joined: 2014-03-17
#5580116 Posted on: 08/31/2018 05:05 PM
This game is awesome, im having a lot of fun playing it!
This game is awesome, im having a lot of fun playing it!
Yakk
Senior Member
Posts: 144
Joined: 2014-12-09
Senior Member
Posts: 144
Joined: 2014-12-09
#5580119 Posted on: 08/31/2018 05:22 PM
Well optimized game, and the Fury X works really, really well with Async.
Older cards like R9 490x and even to a lesser degree the R9 280x should also have surprisingly good results and punch way above what would be expected leaving their old competition behind.
HOLY S***, look at the Fury X go at 4k. Even then 1080p, 1440p results are really good.
Well optimized game, and the Fury X works really, really well with Async.
Older cards like R9 490x and even to a lesser degree the R9 280x should also have surprisingly good results and punch way above what would be expected leaving their old competition behind.
Paulo Narciso
Senior Member
Posts: 1219
Joined: 2007-02-21
Senior Member
Posts: 1219
Joined: 2007-02-21
#5580127 Posted on: 08/31/2018 05:45 PM
Same engine as sniper elite 4 and runs about the same, https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/sniper-elite-4-pc-graphics-performance-benchmark-review,7.html
Same engine as sniper elite 4 and runs about the same, https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/sniper-elite-4-pc-graphics-performance-benchmark-review,7.html
Click here to post a comment for this news story on the message forum.
Senior Member
Posts: 3070
Joined: 2008-03-08
I have not heard of the game either,but it looks like something I would like to play.Thanks for the review.