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#5611675 Posted on: 11/29/2018 02:28 AM
You could use Rammap and cacheset to purge the caches between tests
Correct, I have noticed that myself as well and have been noticing it ever since a recent Windows 10 update. I am still investigating but it looks like some sort of file-cache is kicking in and hindering that result set. I might need to remove that test completely in the future, but felt I should add it as I always present numbers as they are measured.
You could use Rammap and cacheset to purge the caches between tests
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#5611835 Posted on: 11/29/2018 03:46 PM
i'm sure you have a reason to say that. and i know it's anecdotal, but i've never had that problem. i keep several (full) ssd's and use a hot swap drive often. many times it's over 6 months between drive swaps.
Non-volatile memory easily leaks without sustained power through the time. A month would be enough to get few bad blocks (leaked cells) with non-fresh MLC.
i'm sure you have a reason to say that. and i know it's anecdotal, but i've never had that problem. i keep several (full) ssd's and use a hot swap drive often. many times it's over 6 months between drive swaps.
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#5611889 Posted on: 11/29/2018 07:20 PM
I got a 1TB 840 EVO a little over 4 years ago, $476 back than lol. It has something like 12+TB of writes and still kicking. I replaced it with a 2TB 860 EVO last month, $311. My game saves and important docs are in the cloud so I'm not too worried. At one point my main PC with the 1TB 840 EVO was powered off and unplugged for a full year in storage.
I got a 1TB 840 EVO a little over 4 years ago, $476 back than lol. It has something like 12+TB of writes and still kicking. I replaced it with a 2TB 860 EVO last month, $311. My game saves and important docs are in the cloud so I'm not too worried. At one point my main PC with the 1TB 840 EVO was powered off and unplugged for a full year in storage.
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#5612094 Posted on: 11/30/2018 12:15 PM
12TB isn't much, most of these drives are rated for 500TB+ depending on the make, Think my 850 2TB EVO is rated for 2000TB, most normal users will never hit this
I got a 1TB 840 EVO a little over 4 years ago, $476 back than lol. It has something like 12+TB of writes and still kicking. I replaced it with a 2TB 860 EVO last month, $311. My game saves and important docs are in the cloud so I'm not too worried. At one point my main PC with the 1TB 840 EVO was powered off and unplugged for a full year in storage.
12TB isn't much, most of these drives are rated for 500TB+ depending on the make, Think my 850 2TB EVO is rated for 2000TB, most normal users will never hit this
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#5612248 Posted on: 11/30/2018 10:30 PM
Well, @ ~$299 for 2TB the price is coming down nicely! A few months back I bought a 2TB HD drive for ~$80...so there's still a lot of room to maneuver yet, on the pricing front. If and when Samsung can get a 2TB drive down to ~$149 (or maybe even a bit less), I'd say that the platter drives are marked for certain obsolescence. But that 1TB price is mighty nice--~$149! That's just $40 more than I paid for my EVO 850 256GB S3 drive (now booting the wife's machine) and later a 960 EVO 256GB NVMe booting mine...! Be interesting to see how this works for NVMe drives! You still cannot beat HDDs for cost per GB--SSD's are still multiples more expensive--and HDDs are completely unmatched for capacities--but the writing seems to be on the wall. Like everything, it's just a matter of time, eh?
Speaking of HDDs...anyone hear anything lately about those internal RAID 0 platter drives under development? But even @ 350-400MBs/s (for largish files) the HDD's will still not catch even rudimentary Sata 3 SSD's in performance! Should be fun to see what develops!
Well, @ ~$299 for 2TB the price is coming down nicely! A few months back I bought a 2TB HD drive for ~$80...so there's still a lot of room to maneuver yet, on the pricing front. If and when Samsung can get a 2TB drive down to ~$149 (or maybe even a bit less), I'd say that the platter drives are marked for certain obsolescence. But that 1TB price is mighty nice--~$149! That's just $40 more than I paid for my EVO 850 256GB S3 drive (now booting the wife's machine) and later a 960 EVO 256GB NVMe booting mine...! Be interesting to see how this works for NVMe drives! You still cannot beat HDDs for cost per GB--SSD's are still multiples more expensive--and HDDs are completely unmatched for capacities--but the writing seems to be on the wall. Like everything, it's just a matter of time, eh?
Speaking of HDDs...anyone hear anything lately about those internal RAID 0 platter drives under development? But even @ 350-400MBs/s (for largish files) the HDD's will still not catch even rudimentary Sata 3 SSD's in performance! Should be fun to see what develops!
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#5612326 Posted on: 12/01/2018 05:15 AM
For some obnoxious reason I trust Samsung about their SSDs with closed eyes. Now I have 2 Samsung 850s but since I ordered a Z390 M/B I'll get one SATA 860 for the OS and one for one of the two M.2 NVMe slots.
For some obnoxious reason I trust Samsung about their SSDs with closed eyes. Now I have 2 Samsung 850s but since I ordered a Z390 M/B I'll get one SATA 860 for the OS and one for one of the two M.2 NVMe slots.
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#5612695 Posted on: 12/02/2018 06:25 PM
Well, @ ~$299 for 2TB the price is coming down nicely! A few months back I bought a 2TB HD drive for ~$80...so there's still a lot of room to maneuver yet, on the pricing front. If and when Samsung can get a 2TB drive down to ~$149 (or maybe even a bit less), I'd say that the platter drives are marked for certain obsolescence. But that 1TB price is mighty nice--~$149! That's just $40 more than I paid for my EVO 850 256GB S3 drive (now booting the wife's machine) and later a 960 EVO 256GB NVMe booting mine...! Be interesting to see how this works for NVMe drives! You still cannot beat HDDs for cost per GB--SSD's are still multiples more expensive--and HDDs are completely unmatched for capacities--but the writing seems to be on the wall. Like everything, it's just a matter of time, eh?
Speaking of HDDs...anyone hear anything lately about those internal RAID 0 platter drives under development? But even @ 350-400MBs/s (for largish files) the HDD's will still not catch even rudimentary Sata 3 SSD's in performance! Should be fun to see what develops!
I think those 'internal raid' drives were intended to be used in enterprise only, with a very short span of the heads.
So reduced storage as a lot of the fast enterprise drives, but double the R/W speed.
I think the average consumer would be better off doing his own raid 0 on the chipset for a lot cheaper.
At least giving it a try for a while.
As for data retention on SSD's, my main PC was off for a month, fully unplugged, and no problems (or leaks) so far.
I have some MLC m2 Sata SSD's i can test long term for data retention, but havent got any TLC or QLC ones.
Will have to look for a cheap one of each if possible (128/256GB).
edit : I have an old Intel SSD with windows 7 on it somewhere. that hasnt been booted up in two or more years, possibly 3 or 4. Have to find it first.
Well, @ ~$299 for 2TB the price is coming down nicely! A few months back I bought a 2TB HD drive for ~$80...so there's still a lot of room to maneuver yet, on the pricing front. If and when Samsung can get a 2TB drive down to ~$149 (or maybe even a bit less), I'd say that the platter drives are marked for certain obsolescence. But that 1TB price is mighty nice--~$149! That's just $40 more than I paid for my EVO 850 256GB S3 drive (now booting the wife's machine) and later a 960 EVO 256GB NVMe booting mine...! Be interesting to see how this works for NVMe drives! You still cannot beat HDDs for cost per GB--SSD's are still multiples more expensive--and HDDs are completely unmatched for capacities--but the writing seems to be on the wall. Like everything, it's just a matter of time, eh?
Speaking of HDDs...anyone hear anything lately about those internal RAID 0 platter drives under development? But even @ 350-400MBs/s (for largish files) the HDD's will still not catch even rudimentary Sata 3 SSD's in performance! Should be fun to see what develops!
I think those 'internal raid' drives were intended to be used in enterprise only, with a very short span of the heads.
So reduced storage as a lot of the fast enterprise drives, but double the R/W speed.
I think the average consumer would be better off doing his own raid 0 on the chipset for a lot cheaper.
At least giving it a try for a while.
As for data retention on SSD's, my main PC was off for a month, fully unplugged, and no problems (or leaks) so far.
I have some MLC m2 Sata SSD's i can test long term for data retention, but havent got any TLC or QLC ones.
Will have to look for a cheap one of each if possible (128/256GB).
edit : I have an old Intel SSD with windows 7 on it somewhere. that hasnt been booted up in two or more years, possibly 3 or 4. Have to find it first.
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#5674697 Posted on: 05/29/2019 04:01 PM
Hey you all !
About the SSD Samsung QVO this SSD is slow 70mb/s when the cache is full (I think 45Gb) I would like to know if there is a way to flush and empty the SSD disk cache to get full average transfert speed (around 450Mb/s).. I tried the emptystandbylist.exe but no result... Any clue anyone ? Thx
Hey you all !
About the SSD Samsung QVO this SSD is slow 70mb/s when the cache is full (I think 45Gb) I would like to know if there is a way to flush and empty the SSD disk cache to get full average transfert speed (around 450Mb/s).. I tried the emptystandbylist.exe but no result... Any clue anyone ? Thx
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for active storage (like game-storage) this looks good value
but for passive storage (archival purpose) i guess i need to wait abit, to see how reliability goes
i personally still prever HDD simply because it been tested/proved until now