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Review: Ryzen 7 3700X & Ryzen 9 3900X processors
It's time to actually test some ZEN2 base processors, join us as we review the new Ryzen 7 3700X & Ryzen 9 3900X processors from AMD. 7nm Zen2 processors have arrived. A new architecture, a chiplet design, X570 Chipsets and of course we have some procs to look at.
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#5688256 Posted on: 07/07/2019 04:16 PM
New bios is Online:
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-Crosshair-VIII-Hero-WI-FI/HelpDesk-BIOS/
OC potencial for Ryzen 3k is pretty bad. Explaned by Der8auer
I love the fact that Der8auer called AMD out, especially on their BS marketing videos they released prior to release.
New bios is Online:
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-Crosshair-VIII-Hero-WI-FI/HelpDesk-BIOS/
OC potencial for Ryzen 3k is pretty bad. Explaned by Der8auer
I love the fact that Der8auer called AMD out, especially on their BS marketing videos they released prior to release.
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#5688257 Posted on: 07/07/2019 04:17 PM
New bios is Online:
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-Crosshair-VIII-Hero-WI-FI/HelpDesk-BIOS/
OC potencial for Ryzen 3k is pretty bad. Explaned by Der8auer
Shh, don't show such graphs because people may realize its zen1 all over again.
New bios is Online:
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-Crosshair-VIII-Hero-WI-FI/HelpDesk-BIOS/
OC potencial for Ryzen 3k is pretty bad. Explaned by Der8auer
Shh, don't show such graphs because people may realize its zen1 all over again.
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#5688260 Posted on: 07/07/2019 04:19 PM
All cool
The takeaway message is that the group who purchase Intel over AMD is, shall we say, logically, going to get a lot smaller with this release. Be under no false illusions, common sense will prevail for the majority, at least.
Sure, Ryzen has its place and purpose. Its just once again AMD hype and the drip drip of leaks that do nothing to help once the real results come out.
Ryzen has value, but I'm sure AMD would rather people buy their CPUs, rather than say well we got Intel to drop their prices and then people buy them now cheaper.
All cool
The takeaway message is that the group who purchase Intel over AMD is, shall we say, logically, going to get a lot smaller with this release. Be under no false illusions, common sense will prevail for the majority, at least.
Sure, Ryzen has its place and purpose. Its just once again AMD hype and the drip drip of leaks that do nothing to help once the real results come out.
Ryzen has value, but I'm sure AMD would rather people buy their CPUs, rather than say well we got Intel to drop their prices and then people buy them now cheaper.
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#5688261 Posted on: 07/07/2019 04:21 PM
AMD is saying they restricted the CPU in some way with the bios in the review. What does this mean?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/c9wz58/1usmus-reassuring-statement-to-zen2-bios/?utm-medium=android-app&utm-source=share
AMD is saying they restricted the CPU in some way with the bios in the review. What does this mean?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/c9wz58/1usmus-reassuring-statement-to-zen2-bios/?utm-medium=android-app&utm-source=share
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#5688262 Posted on: 07/07/2019 04:21 PM
THIS is absurd. Many people buy these CPUs to tweak and overclock. Most reviews didn't even cover overclocking.
Okay, the new X570 layout wise look great, except for the stupid fans, but seriously AMD and them didn't have their BIOSs in order at launch ONCE AGAIN?! Do they ever learn? I saw quite a few reviews that said, oh the launch BIOS needs updating, it needs some more work. Sure, you can say its better than before, but come on. This does not help their case once you add everything else disappointing about the product.
Now waiting for updated overclock reviews.. If it is likle zen and zen+, we need to wait that MB OEMs and AMD fix their damn firmwares.. Which is pretty annoying. Hopefully for xmas most of the issues should be solved, even on 300 and 400 series MBs...
THIS is absurd. Many people buy these CPUs to tweak and overclock. Most reviews didn't even cover overclocking.
Okay, the new X570 layout wise look great, except for the stupid fans, but seriously AMD and them didn't have their BIOSs in order at launch ONCE AGAIN?! Do they ever learn? I saw quite a few reviews that said, oh the launch BIOS needs updating, it needs some more work. Sure, you can say its better than before, but come on. This does not help their case once you add everything else disappointing about the product.
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#5688263 Posted on: 07/07/2019 04:22 PM
5ghz Ryzen 3k
RIP
5ghz Ryzen 3k
RIP
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#5688268 Posted on: 07/07/2019 04:27 PM
5ghz Ryzen 3k
RIP
Calm down lol
5ghz Ryzen 3k
RIP
Calm down
lol
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#5688269 Posted on: 07/07/2019 04:28 PM
5ghz Ryzen 3k
RIP
Ryzen 3900x 4.2ghz RIP 1.45v. Just ask der8auer and Hardware Unboxed. Be careful overclocking this CPU, new owners.
5ghz Ryzen 3k
RIP
Ryzen 3900x 4.2ghz RIP 1.45v. Just ask der8auer and Hardware Unboxed. Be careful overclocking this CPU, new owners.
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#5688270 Posted on: 07/07/2019 04:28 PM
I have a feeling OC results will be better after the next BIOS update and more people investigating how to reach higher clocks. Frankly, 4.4GHz is plenty fast enough for 12 cores - you people are way too picky. But, I would like to see something higher for 8 cores and less.
I have a feeling OC results will be better after the next BIOS update and more people investigating how to reach higher clocks. Frankly, 4.4GHz is plenty fast enough for 12 cores - you people are way too picky. But, I would like to see something higher for 8 cores and less.
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#5688272 Posted on: 07/07/2019 04:31 PM
9900k is still the faster CPU in Gaming. With Nvidia 3000 series that gap will be even bigger in 2k resolution. That's all what matters to me.
9900k is still the faster CPU in Gaming. With Nvidia 3000 series that gap will be even bigger in 2k resolution. That's all what matters to me.
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#5688274 Posted on: 07/07/2019 04:32 PM
Sounds great, but let's see retail prices, because currently the 9900k is 480eur, and unless the 3700x is below 380, I don't see myself getting one.
Sounds great, but let's see retail prices, because currently the 9900k is 480eur, and unless the 3700x is below 380, I don't see myself getting one.
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#5688275 Posted on: 07/07/2019 04:34 PM
A new BIOS is not going to fix voltage requirements and heat. All core, a 3900x will struggle to reach 4.2ghz. The heat and voltage required is too high. Watch der8auer's video.
I have a feeling OC results will be better after the next BIOS update and more people investigating how to reach higher clocks. Frankly, 4.4GHz is plenty fast enough for 12 cores - you people are way too picky. But, I would like to see something higher for 8 cores and less.
A new BIOS is not going to fix voltage requirements and heat. All core, a 3900x will struggle to reach 4.2ghz. The heat and voltage required is too high. Watch der8auer's video.
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#5688277 Posted on: 07/07/2019 04:35 PM
ryzen 3700x runs hotter than i9 9900k?
ryzen 3700x runs hotter than i9 9900k?
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#5688278 Posted on: 07/07/2019 04:36 PM
High PBO + High LLC... bad idea.
In MT benchmarks, it does perform 50% better than 3700X in general.
In comparison to my 2700X it is 50~80% faster in productivity workloads.
Video you listed came with some 12~18IPC incresse, so even if 4.2GHz was all core boost, 12% above Zen+ would make it same as 4.7GHz Zen+. And 18% as 4.95GHz Zen+.
I think I am fine with those values. Or are we back in Bulldozer times of GHz race? How did you like that 4GHz comparison?
High PBO + High LLC... bad idea.
A new BIOS is not going to fix voltage requirements and heat. All core, a 3900x will struggle to reach 4.2ghz. The heat and voltage required is too high. Watch der8auer's video.
In MT benchmarks, it does perform 50% better than 3700X in general.
In comparison to my 2700X it is 50~80% faster in productivity workloads.
Video you listed came with some 12~18IPC incresse, so even if 4.2GHz was all core boost, 12% above Zen+ would make it same as 4.7GHz Zen+. And 18% as 4.95GHz Zen+.
I think I am fine with those values. Or are we back in Bulldozer times of GHz race? How did you like that 4GHz comparison?
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I'll be called a Intel fanboy... but outside the obvious downside of gaming performance. High voltages, disappointing headroom for overclocking. Hardware Unboxed managed to kill their 3900x. Voltages are higher and temps, strange considering power consumption is lower.
Oh well, its the best its been for AMD in a while, and that's good. But these will just bring prices down on Intel's end.
And while X570 boards finally have quality like Intel now, I hate the stupid fan and the only mobo I'd consider is the Gigabyte Xtreme, as it has no fan and better cooling, but it is ridiculously expensive.
All cool
The takeaway message is that the group who purchase Intel over AMD is, shall we say, logically, going to get a lot smaller with this release. Be under no false illusions, common sense (no offence to anyone with a 9900) will prevail for the majority, at least.
AMD have done very well and this is good news for everyone, in any camp.