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#5406314 Posted on: 03/14/2017 09:18 AM
Great review. Thank you.
These Ryzens are great deals if you're a PC user who creates more content.
I wanted to build a Ryzen rig (build itch) to replace my i7, but as a gamer, it just isn't doing it. It's beating the old FX series but still really nowhere near Intel. Any windows fixes aren't closing that gap.
Great review. Thank you.
These Ryzens are great deals if you're a PC user who creates more content.
I wanted to build a Ryzen rig (build itch) to replace my i7, but as a gamer, it just isn't doing it. It's beating the old FX series but still really nowhere near Intel. Any windows fixes aren't closing that gap.
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#5406332 Posted on: 03/14/2017 10:20 AM
Thanks for testing with a aircooler. I am glad that you can get good enough overclock =)
Thanks for testing with a aircooler. I am glad that you can get good enough overclock =)
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#5406351 Posted on: 03/14/2017 11:10 AM
Great review. Thank you.
These Ryzens are great deals if you're a PC user who creates more content.
I wanted to build a Ryzen rig (build itch) to replace my i7, but as a gamer, it just isn't doing it. It's beating the old FX series but still really nowhere near Intel. Any windows fixes aren't closing that gap.
It's still fine in gaming nothing to worry about FPS wise, that intel is on the top by 15+fps doesen't mean the CPU is "Bad" for gaming. So the CPU is a good deal for both the users Gaming/Content. Intel will be on the top aslong as they wan't unless users like you invest in AMD. Okay perhaps you have no reason to upgrade gaming wise. Anyway I'm getting one to build a new ESXI homelab once the CPU is supported. Great RAW performance!
Don't choose intel over those 10/15FPS
invest in competition aswell.
Great review. Thank you.
These Ryzens are great deals if you're a PC user who creates more content.
I wanted to build a Ryzen rig (build itch) to replace my i7, but as a gamer, it just isn't doing it. It's beating the old FX series but still really nowhere near Intel. Any windows fixes aren't closing that gap.
It's still fine in gaming nothing to worry about FPS wise, that intel is on the top by 15+fps doesen't mean the CPU is "Bad" for gaming. So the CPU is a good deal for both the users Gaming/Content. Intel will be on the top aslong as they wan't unless users like you invest in AMD. Okay perhaps you have no reason to upgrade gaming wise. Anyway I'm getting one to build a new ESXI homelab once the CPU is supported. Great RAW performance!
Don't choose intel over those 10/15FPS
invest in competition aswell.
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#5406352 Posted on: 03/14/2017 11:22 AM
Great review. Thank you.
These Ryzens are great deals if you're a PC user who creates more content.
I wanted to build a Ryzen rig (build itch) to replace my i7, but as a gamer, it just isn't doing it. It's beating the old FX series but still really nowhere near Intel. Any windows fixes aren't closing that gap.
In games where the ccx is not causing issues its just there with 6900k np. But mostly yes it is somewhat behind.
Great review. Thank you.
These Ryzens are great deals if you're a PC user who creates more content.
I wanted to build a Ryzen rig (build itch) to replace my i7, but as a gamer, it just isn't doing it. It's beating the old FX series but still really nowhere near Intel. Any windows fixes aren't closing that gap.
In games where the ccx is not causing issues its just there with 6900k np. But mostly yes it is somewhat behind.
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#5406353 Posted on: 03/14/2017 11:27 AM
It's still fine in gaming nothing to worry about FPS wise, that intel is on the top by 15+fps doesen't mean the CPU is "Bad" for gaming. So the CPU is a good deal for both the users Gaming/Content. Intel will be on the top aslong as they wan't unless users like you invest in AMD. Okay perhaps you have no reason to upgrade gaming wise. Anyway I'm getting one to build a new ESXI homelab once the CPU is supported. Great RAW performance!
Don't choose intel over those 10/15FPS invest in competition aswell.
Well it's not just 10 fps. In some games the difference is 25-30 fps. In the future and as GPUs get stronger the Ryzen system may be a greater bottleneck. It's a tough decision. I think if you plan to game only an i5 or an i7 is better option. As for future proofing yes games may utilise more cores and threads but maybe not. Even on heavy threaded games Ryzen is still behind. So this tells me that the performance may not improve so much in the future. It's a very good CPU but not for exclusive gaming. If you are one of those who heavily multi task or stream Ryzen is a better option yes but if you plan to game and only game then it's not.
It's still fine in gaming nothing to worry about FPS wise, that intel is on the top by 15+fps doesen't mean the CPU is "Bad" for gaming. So the CPU is a good deal for both the users Gaming/Content. Intel will be on the top aslong as they wan't unless users like you invest in AMD. Okay perhaps you have no reason to upgrade gaming wise. Anyway I'm getting one to build a new ESXI homelab once the CPU is supported. Great RAW performance!
Don't choose intel over those 10/15FPS
invest in competition aswell.
Well it's not just 10 fps. In some games the difference is 25-30 fps. In the future and as GPUs get stronger the Ryzen system may be a greater bottleneck. It's a tough decision. I think if you plan to game only an i5 or an i7 is better option. As for future proofing yes games may utilise more cores and threads but maybe not. Even on heavy threaded games Ryzen is still behind. So this tells me that the performance may not improve so much in the future. It's a very good CPU but not for exclusive gaming. If you are one of those who heavily multi task or stream Ryzen is a better option yes but if you plan to game and only game then it's not.
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#5406356 Posted on: 03/14/2017 11:33 AM
Great review. Thank you.
These Ryzens are great deals if you're a PC user who creates more content.
I wanted to build a Ryzen rig (build itch) to replace my i7, but as a gamer, it just isn't doing it. It's beating the old FX series but still really nowhere near Intel. Any windows fixes aren't closing that gap.
I very much doubt that you will be playing on 1080p with 1080 Ti in order to see the difference. And if there is a difference it is only on your Afterburner OSD, you cannot see it with your eyes (120fps vs 140fps).
Great review. Thank you.
These Ryzens are great deals if you're a PC user who creates more content.
I wanted to build a Ryzen rig (build itch) to replace my i7, but as a gamer, it just isn't doing it. It's beating the old FX series but still really nowhere near Intel. Any windows fixes aren't closing that gap.
I very much doubt that you will be playing on 1080p with 1080 Ti in order to see the difference. And if there is a difference it is only on your Afterburner OSD, you cannot see it with your eyes (120fps vs 140fps).
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#5406358 Posted on: 03/14/2017 11:40 AM
The gaming perf is not an issue in every and any situation. If you purchase a GeForce GTX 1080 or 1080 Ti and game in a CPU bound resolution (1080p) yes, you will see a loss in performance (which varies per title). On average 10% 'ish in extremes however that can run up-to a ridiculous 40% (Tomb Raider).
The second you get more GPU bound, you are not going to notice that perf differential. Even with that 1080 in 2560x1440 you'll have a hard time spotting the perf drop. But the reality remains that Ryzen 7 is underperforming compared to Intel in gaming at CPU bound situations. It is what it is, at this point if you plan to build a nice gaming rig and say a GTX 1060 or RX 480 is your sweet spot for gaming and budget, Ryzen 7 1700 makes total sense at 329 USD with desktop perf that is ridiculously fast for the money.
It's in the high-end and enthusiast segment where the true problem sits. For anything below that segment, Ryzen offers superb value/perf wise.
I wish I could tell a different story on Ryzen 7, but that is the reality of it.
The gaming perf is not an issue in every and any situation. If you purchase a GeForce GTX 1080 or 1080 Ti and game in a CPU bound resolution (1080p) yes, you will see a loss in performance (which varies per title). On average 10% 'ish in extremes however that can run up-to a ridiculous 40% (Tomb Raider).
The second you get more GPU bound, you are not going to notice that perf differential. Even with that 1080 in 2560x1440 you'll have a hard time spotting the perf drop. But the reality remains that Ryzen 7 is underperforming compared to Intel in gaming at CPU bound situations. It is what it is, at this point if you plan to build a nice gaming rig and say a GTX 1060 or RX 480 is your sweet spot for gaming and budget, Ryzen 7 1700 makes total sense at 329 USD with desktop perf that is ridiculously fast for the money.
It's in the high-end and enthusiast segment where the true problem sits. For anything below that segment, Ryzen offers superb value/perf wise.
I wish I could tell a different story on Ryzen 7, but that is the reality of it.
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#5406359 Posted on: 03/14/2017 11:42 AM
True, however it's still fine in doing so, It's a personal choice of-course as an owner you wan't the best for your daily tasks. However healthy competition is only generated if we but them even if they are "Less" in performance. Better is not always better on the end
Well it's not just 10 fps. In some games the difference is 25-30 fps. In the future and as GPUs get stronger the Ryzen system may be a greater bottleneck. It's a tough decision. I think if you plan to game only an i5 or an i7 is better option. As for future proofing yes games may utilise more cores and threads but maybe not. Even on heavy threaded games Ryzen is still behind. So this tells me that the performance may not improve so much in the future. It's a very good CPU but not for exclusive gaming. If you are one of those who heavily multi task or stream Ryzen is a better option yes but if you plan to game and only game then it's not.
True, however it's still fine in doing so, It's a personal choice of-course as an owner you wan't the best for your daily tasks. However healthy competition is only generated if we but them even if they are "Less" in performance. Better is not always better on the end
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#5406360 Posted on: 03/14/2017 11:43 AM
I don't really think that would be the case. I think that it might be a tough sell now. Bit future-proof wise it is golden. 1080p gaming is gping to ve conpletely over in months. Maybe a year tops and in 2k and up, most games are gpu bound and will continue tp ve for the subsequent years as 1080p was until 1-2 years ago.
Sooooo, I think this is a must have for the future as all will begin to be more multi threaded and less speed dependant.
Well it's not just 10 fps. In some games the difference is 25-30 fps. In the future and as GPUs get stronger the Ryzen system may be a greater bottleneck. It's a tough decision. I think if you plan to game only an i5 or an i7 is better option. As for future proofing yes games may utilise more cores and threads but maybe not. Even on heavy threaded games Ryzen is still behind. So this tells me that the performance may not improve so much in the future. It's a very good CPU but not for exclusive gaming. If you are one of those who heavily multi task or stream Ryzen is a better option yes but if you plan to game and only game then it's not.
I don't really think that would be the case. I think that it might be a tough sell now. Bit future-proof wise it is golden. 1080p gaming is gping to ve conpletely over in months. Maybe a year tops and in 2k and up, most games are gpu bound and will continue tp ve for the subsequent years as 1080p was until 1-2 years ago.
Sooooo, I think this is a must have for the future as all will begin to be more multi threaded and less speed dependant.
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#5406361 Posted on: 03/14/2017 11:43 AM
The gaming perf is not an issue in every and any situation. If you purchase a GeForce GTX 1080 or 1080 Ti and game in a CPU bound resolution (1080p) yes, you will see a loss in performance (which varies per title). On average 10% 'ish in extremes however that can run up-to a ridiculous 40% (Tomb Raider).
The second you get more GPU bound, you are not going to notice that perf differential. Even with that 1080 in 2560x1440 you'll have a hard time spotting the perf drop. But the reality remains that Ryzen 7 is underperforming compared to Intel in gaming at CPU bound situations. It is what it is, at this point if you plan to build a nice gaming rig and say a GTX 1060 or RX 480 is your sweet spot for gaming and budget, Ryzen 7 1700 makes total sense at 329 USD with desktop perf that is ridiculously fast for the money.
It's in the high-end and enthusiast segment where the true problem sits. For anything below that segment, Ryzen offers superb value/perf wise.
I wish I could tell a different story on Ryzen 7, but that is the reality of it.
Couldn't say it any better
The gaming perf is not an issue in every and any situation. If you purchase a GeForce GTX 1080 or 1080 Ti and game in a CPU bound resolution (1080p) yes, you will see a loss in performance (which varies per title). On average 10% 'ish in extremes however that can run up-to a ridiculous 40% (Tomb Raider).
The second you get more GPU bound, you are not going to notice that perf differential. Even with that 1080 in 2560x1440 you'll have a hard time spotting the perf drop. But the reality remains that Ryzen 7 is underperforming compared to Intel in gaming at CPU bound situations. It is what it is, at this point if you plan to build a nice gaming rig and say a GTX 1060 or RX 480 is your sweet spot for gaming and budget, Ryzen 7 1700 makes total sense at 329 USD with desktop perf that is ridiculously fast for the money.
It's in the high-end and enthusiast segment where the true problem sits. For anything below that segment, Ryzen offers superb value/perf wise.
I wish I could tell a different story on Ryzen 7, but that is the reality of it.
Couldn't say it any better
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#5406363 Posted on: 03/14/2017 11:52 AM
It's still fine in gaming nothing to worry about FPS wise, that intel is on the top by 15+fps doesen't mean the CPU is "Bad" for gaming. So the CPU is a good deal for both the users Gaming/Content. Intel will be on the top aslong as they wan't unless users like you invest in AMD. Okay perhaps you have no reason to upgrade gaming wise. Anyway I'm getting one to build a new ESXI homelab once the CPU is supported. Great RAW performance!
Don't choose intel over those 10/15FPS invest in competition aswell.Funny, I've been to a few forums and the sentiment is, if it loses to, say, and Intel 7700K, it MUST suck. The thing is, it handles games just fine, may not be the fastest, but fast enough to keep framerate smooth....plus, it's an awesome CPU for uses other than gaming.
It's still fine in gaming nothing to worry about FPS wise, that intel is on the top by 15+fps doesen't mean the CPU is "Bad" for gaming. So the CPU is a good deal for both the users Gaming/Content. Intel will be on the top aslong as they wan't unless users like you invest in AMD. Okay perhaps you have no reason to upgrade gaming wise. Anyway I'm getting one to build a new ESXI homelab once the CPU is supported. Great RAW performance!
Don't choose intel over those 10/15FPS
invest in competition aswell.Funny, I've been to a few forums and the sentiment is, if it loses to, say, and Intel 7700K, it MUST suck. The thing is, it handles games just fine, may not be the fastest, but fast enough to keep framerate smooth....plus, it's an awesome CPU for uses other than gaming.
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#5406364 Posted on: 03/14/2017 11:53 AM
Awesome, thank you HH! Now I just need the mobo's to be in stock.
Awesome, thank you HH! Now I just need the mobo's to be in stock.
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#5406379 Posted on: 03/14/2017 12:39 PM
Hilbert, I need help, all ryzen CPUs have unlocked multiplier's, and all of then clock the same (3.9~4.1Ghz), its hard to see any reason to buy the 1700X and 1800X when they achieve the same overclocks, if you put all Ryzen 7 at 4ghz the 1700 will consume more voltage and power then the other two? Thx for the review
Hilbert, I need help, all ryzen CPUs have unlocked multiplier's, and all of then clock the same (3.9~4.1Ghz), its hard to see any reason to buy the 1700X and 1800X when they achieve the same overclocks, if you put all Ryzen 7 at 4ghz the 1700 will consume more voltage and power then the other two? Thx for the review
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#5406383 Posted on: 03/14/2017 12:54 PM
The gaming perf is not an issue in every and any situation. If you purchase a GeForce GTX 1080 or 1080 Ti and game in a CPU bound resolution (1080p) yes, you will see a loss in performance (which varies per title). On average 10% 'ish in extremes however that can run up-to a ridiculous 40% (Tomb Raider).
The second you get more GPU bound, you are not going to notice that perf differential. Even with that 1080 in 2560x1440 you'll have a hard time spotting the perf drop. But the reality remains that Ryzen 7 is underperforming compared to Intel in gaming at CPU bound situations. It is what it is, at this point if you plan to build a nice gaming rig and say a GTX 1060 or RX 480 is your sweet spot for gaming and budget, Ryzen 7 1700 makes total sense at 329 USD with desktop perf that is ridiculously fast for the money.
It's in the high-end and enthusiast segment where the true problem sits. For anything below that segment, Ryzen offers superb value/perf wise.
I wish I could tell a different story on Ryzen 7, but that is the reality of it.
Might sound a bit petty but for me it's a simple thing of pricing it too high. Let's say $50-100.
If it were this it would look a lot healthier. But then if these "patches" do do something then again another 10 or so fps would help sales.
I dont think Ryzen is competitive at all myself as arent the lower end segment looking at the next chips rather than this bunch? If I were to upgrade my current chip why would I get anything other than say a 7700k?
The other problem is overclockability. 4ghz to me isnt what am after when I can hit 5ghz on air with some chips...
But as you rightly point out perhaps am more high-end so for me intel still is king. (I actually think I just about sit in high-end..obviously not now as I need an upgrade but next upgrades I will be going up a res from 1920x1200).
p.s am a bit miffed by what Amd want to achieve. Are they trying to say hey look our chips are as good therefore pay the same as Intel? Then that's moving away from what previously people regarded them as.
I.e You would pay say $100 less but lose out on a fair chunk of performance but then as more of a casual/lower end gamer this wasnt a deal breaker.
When I was a student that's how I started into the hobby. The £50 saving was quite a bit and meant a better gpu etc etc...
Curent prices here in UK for 1700 are £329! Exactly the same as the 7700K!!!
The gaming perf is not an issue in every and any situation. If you purchase a GeForce GTX 1080 or 1080 Ti and game in a CPU bound resolution (1080p) yes, you will see a loss in performance (which varies per title). On average 10% 'ish in extremes however that can run up-to a ridiculous 40% (Tomb Raider).
The second you get more GPU bound, you are not going to notice that perf differential. Even with that 1080 in 2560x1440 you'll have a hard time spotting the perf drop. But the reality remains that Ryzen 7 is underperforming compared to Intel in gaming at CPU bound situations. It is what it is, at this point if you plan to build a nice gaming rig and say a GTX 1060 or RX 480 is your sweet spot for gaming and budget, Ryzen 7 1700 makes total sense at 329 USD with desktop perf that is ridiculously fast for the money.
It's in the high-end and enthusiast segment where the true problem sits. For anything below that segment, Ryzen offers superb value/perf wise.
I wish I could tell a different story on Ryzen 7, but that is the reality of it.
Might sound a bit petty but for me it's a simple thing of pricing it too high. Let's say $50-100.
If it were this it would look a lot healthier. But then if these "patches" do do something then again another 10 or so fps would help sales.
I dont think Ryzen is competitive at all myself as arent the lower end segment looking at the next chips rather than this bunch? If I were to upgrade my current chip why would I get anything other than say a 7700k?
The other problem is overclockability. 4ghz to me isnt what am after when I can hit 5ghz on air with some chips...
But as you rightly point out perhaps am more high-end so for me intel still is king. (I actually think I just about sit in high-end..obviously not now as I need an upgrade but next upgrades I will be going up a res from 1920x1200).
p.s am a bit miffed by what Amd want to achieve. Are they trying to say hey look our chips are as good therefore pay the same as Intel? Then that's moving away from what previously people regarded them as.
I.e You would pay say $100 less but lose out on a fair chunk of performance but then as more of a casual/lower end gamer this wasnt a deal breaker.
When I was a student that's how I started into the hobby. The £50 saving was quite a bit and meant a better gpu etc etc...
Curent prices here in UK for 1700 are £329! Exactly the same as the 7700K!!!
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4GHz... Niceuuuu. If I were upgrading I'd definitely consider the R7 1700.