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#5627403 Posted on: 01/14/2019 10:33 PM
Ray tracing seems untouched by overclocking, it is within error margin or load out differences.
I kinda wonder why rtx series deny the same or identical boost of non ray tracing benchmarks.
Yeah, I noticed that too, and I'd like to know the reason why. Ray tracing performance is one area where these cards would really benefit from an overclock of the ray tracing portion of the card. Maybe the ray tracing part of the GPU operates at different clock speeds, similar to how the old old generations (e.g. 8600 GT) of NVidia cards functioned, where there was a seperate core clock, and shader clock, and memory clock - so when you overclocked you could overclock each of them individually. I remember I got best results from overclocking each of those 3 clocks to the max that they would each achieve individually. Maybe in the future overclocking programs will include seperate sliders for overclocking of the RT part of the card. These are just ideas, I don't know if that's how it could even operate, but would be good to get some answers on these questions we have.
Ray tracing seems untouched by overclocking, it is within error margin or load out differences.
I kinda wonder why rtx series deny the same or identical boost of non ray tracing benchmarks.
Yeah, I noticed that too, and I'd like to know the reason why. Ray tracing performance is one area where these cards would really benefit from an overclock of the ray tracing portion of the card. Maybe the ray tracing part of the GPU operates at different clock speeds, similar to how the old old generations (e.g. 8600 GT) of NVidia cards functioned, where there was a seperate core clock, and shader clock, and memory clock - so when you overclocked you could overclock each of them individually. I remember I got best results from overclocking each of those 3 clocks to the max that they would each achieve individually. Maybe in the future overclocking programs will include seperate sliders for overclocking of the RT part of the card. These are just ideas, I don't know if that's how it could even operate, but would be good to get some answers on these questions we have.
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#5627405 Posted on: 01/14/2019 10:38 PM
6GB is too small, needs a 8GB option. call it 2060Ti or something.
6GB is too small, needs a 8GB option. call it 2060Ti or something.
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#5627407 Posted on: 01/14/2019 10:45 PM
With SLI/MGPU getting rarer, could this be an upgrade for myself?
I play zero new games due to not liking to compromise with visuals, so i don't know how rare it is nowadays, but i don't see many people with SLI/CF anymore.
EDIT: Just had a better look at the results, even with 100% scaling this card could be better than 970x2.
With SLI/MGPU getting rarer, could this be an upgrade for myself?
I play zero new games due to not liking to compromise with visuals, so i don't know how rare it is nowadays, but i don't see many people with SLI/CF anymore.
EDIT: Just had a better look at the results, even with 100% scaling this card could be better than 970x2.
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#5627408 Posted on: 01/14/2019 10:47 PM
No it will ruin 2070 sales. Thats the difference between the two.
6GB is too small, needs a 8GB option. call it 2060Ti or something.
No it will ruin 2070 sales. Thats the difference between the two.
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#5627409 Posted on: 01/14/2019 10:48 PM
With SLI/MGPU getting rarer, could this be an upgrade for myself?
I play zero new games due to not liking to compromise with visuals, so i don't know how rare it is nowadays, but i don't see many people with SLI/CF anymore.
Yah it would be better even in games where the 970's scale 100%.
Edit: Err just saw your edit lol
With SLI/MGPU getting rarer, could this be an upgrade for myself?
I play zero new games due to not liking to compromise with visuals, so i don't know how rare it is nowadays, but i don't see many people with SLI/CF anymore.
Yah it would be better even in games where the 970's scale 100%.
Edit: Err just saw your edit lol
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#5627410 Posted on: 01/14/2019 10:52 PM
I should have paid more attention, since i know how well GTAV scales i should have went there first.
I am planning on moving to 4k soon though, so it's not exactly futureproof and with SLI no longer being available...
Still, great review as always and a very nice card if it does sell at near to MRRP.
I should have paid more attention, since i know how well GTAV scales i should have went there first.
I am planning on moving to 4k soon though, so it's not exactly futureproof and with SLI no longer being available...
Still, great review as always and a very nice card if it does sell at near to MRRP.
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#5627447 Posted on: 01/15/2019 02:10 AM
As for 1440p being the new mainstream; perhaps in 60Hz circles.
As for 1440p being the new mainstream; perhaps in 60Hz circles.
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#5627450 Posted on: 01/15/2019 02:21 AM
Dam thats a fast xx60 card...has any x60 card ever beat/tied/ the previous generation x80?
Dam thats a fast xx60 card...has any x60 card ever beat/tied/ the previous generation x80?
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#5627453 Posted on: 01/15/2019 02:32 AM
Not as i remember. But there is also no xx60 card before that costed 350$.
Dam thats a fast xx60 card...has any x60 card ever beat/tied/ the previous generation x80?
Not as i remember. But there is also no xx60 card before that costed 350$.
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#5627471 Posted on: 01/15/2019 04:26 AM
a little too noisy for me
JetStream are less noisy, aren't they?
39dba isn't very loud at all.
a little too noisy for me
JetStream are less noisy, aren't they?
39dba isn't very loud at all.
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#5627511 Posted on: 01/15/2019 08:29 AM
Ray tracing seems untouched by overclocking, it is within error margin or load out differences.
I kinda wonder why rtx series deny the same or identical boost of non ray tracing benchmarks.
Maybe memory bandwidth is limiting factor here. While SM and RT cores see decrease similar to performance loss, even reference 2060 is clocked higher than reference 2070. Therefore its RT already suffers from other source. That may mean memory OC can do some good for it, or maybe timing tuning would be better way around this high granularity workload.
As of Hilbert's results which show reference card too.
But results already showing only ~4% improvement over stock w/o OC and ~10% improvement over reference when this card is OCed by 22% on core and 15% on memory.
It is possible that using software OC for memory allows nVidia's driver to worsen timings. Tuning it in VBIOS would likely do more good.
With that OC clock, it should by all means be equal to 2070 in all workloads except those where memory bandwidth/latency is not sufficient.
Ray tracing seems untouched by overclocking, it is within error margin or load out differences.
I kinda wonder why rtx series deny the same or identical boost of non ray tracing benchmarks.
Maybe memory bandwidth is limiting factor here. While SM and RT cores see decrease similar to performance loss, even reference 2060 is clocked higher than reference 2070. Therefore its RT already suffers from other source. That may mean memory OC can do some good for it, or maybe timing tuning would be better way around this high granularity workload.
As of Hilbert's results which show reference card too.
Reference This sample Overclocked
Core Clock 1680 1830 2050
Memory Clock 14000 14000 16100
Core Clock OC 0 8.927 22.02
Memory Clock OC 0 0 15
Core Clock 1680 1830 2050
Memory Clock 14000 14000 16100
Core Clock OC 0 8.927 22.02
Memory Clock OC 0 0 15
But results already showing only ~4% improvement over stock w/o OC and ~10% improvement over reference when this card is OCed by 22% on core and 15% on memory.
It is possible that using software OC for memory allows nVidia's driver to worsen timings. Tuning it in VBIOS would likely do more good.
With that OC clock, it should by all means be equal to 2070 in all workloads except those where memory bandwidth/latency is not sufficient.
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#5627573 Posted on: 01/15/2019 11:24 AM
393euros in romania ...okkkkk , and funny enough it's the cheapest RTX2060 you can find here , meanwhile asus want's 510e for it's ROG model :| , same price as the cheapest RTX2070
393euros in romania ...okkkkk , and funny enough it's the cheapest RTX2060 you can find here , meanwhile asus want's 510e for it's ROG model :| , same price as the cheapest RTX2070
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#5627746 Posted on: 01/15/2019 04:41 PM
For this price and performance, Nvidia just killed RTX 2070. I wouldn't pay 200 dollars more to have only 5% more performance.
For this price and performance, Nvidia just killed RTX 2070. I wouldn't pay 200 dollars more to have only 5% more performance.
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#5627757 Posted on: 01/15/2019 05:06 PM
Its not only about raw performance. With 2070 you get more Vram and higher number of RT cores.
Nvidia knows what they are doing.
For this price and performance, Nvidia just killed RTX 2070. I wouldn't pay 200 dollars more to have only 5% more performance.
Its not only about raw performance. With 2070 you get more Vram and higher number of RT cores.
Nvidia knows what they are doing.
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How on Earth is that card matching an RTX 2070?