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Guru3D Rig of the Month - December 2019
Review: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER (Reference/Founders edition)
We review the GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER, NVIDIA has launched a new Super graphics cards, as in super-charged in a super range of what they deem super products. GeForce RTX 2080 Super is based on a Turing TU104 chip and was paired with some snazzy fast GDDR6 graphics memory. So then, worth it? Let's find out.
Review: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six core processor - 07/22/2019 12:38 PM
We again review a six-core model Ryzen 5 3600 processor, you know, the one without an X. It's 200 MHz slower on the base and turbo clocks, but a whopping 50 bucks cheaper. Worth it? Yeah, we think so...
Review: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X Six core processor - 07/19/2019 12:36 PM
We recently reviewed the Ryzen 7 3700X & Ryzen 9 3900X processors from AMD. How about the 3600 series six core parts eh? Well, let's check out the new Ryzen 5 3600X in this review, which quite fr...
Review: Team Group T-Force 4133 MHz 16GB DDR4 - 07/18/2019 11:01 AM
We review an XTREEM 16GB kit from Team Group. The T-Force 4133 MHz 16GB memory is cool, fast and runs XMP 2.0 memory profiles on Intel platforms as well. Join us as we review some of the fastest clock...
Review: ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII HERO (Wi-fi) - 07/16/2019 01:06 PM
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Review: MSI MEG X570 Godlike Ryzen Series 3000 motherboard - 07/15/2019 01:28 PM
MSI offers something incredibly extreme with this X570 motherboard, meet the MSI MEG X570 Godlike. We check out this piece of hardware loaded with features, in combination with a Ryzen 7 3700X process...
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#5693703 Posted on: 07/23/2019 07:07 PM
HH , even thou the writing was perfect, I am sorry that some ppl get offended by every little word that is there ... I am afraid in a few years we will all be little sheep with no word to say !
I undersend @anthos but why we always need to apologize for something .
As far as the review goes , same opinion 2700S is the better road .
Hope I have't offended anyone now ! .
... Have all a grate night
HH , even thou the writing was perfect, I am sorry that some ppl get offended by every little word that is there ... I am afraid in a few years we will all be little sheep with no word to say !
I undersend @anthos but why we always need to apologize for something .
As far as the review goes , same opinion 2700S is the better road .
Hope I have't offended anyone now ! .
... Have all a grate night
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#5693709 Posted on: 07/23/2019 07:49 PM
A measly 8-9% increase wouldn't be enough to cause any regret.
Surely a small OC on the 2080 would close that gap considerably.
I'm with everyone else here, the 2070S seems to be the best performance/price ratio card available right now.
A measly 8-9% increase wouldn't be enough to cause any regret.
Surely a small OC on the 2080 would close that gap considerably.
I'm with everyone else here, the 2070S seems to be the best performance/price ratio card available right now.
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#5693715 Posted on: 07/23/2019 08:23 PM
I understand that you didn't do it with a malicious intent however it is difficult to give you pass on that and I ll tell you why.
In 2019 you reviewed a 2080 card and you gave it the "Guru3d recommended" badge. Someone out there might have trusted your opinion and went with it. Then a few months down the line he reads from the same person that if he bought a 2080 - within the timeframe you yourself advised him to - then it "sucks to be him". That immediately insults him and destroys any credibility he has towards you.
Anyway again it is not meant to be a jab against you, but I wanted to advise you of the way it could be perceived and the impact it could have.
p.s my card is an nvidia 610 just in case anyone starts to wonder different things...
Never realized that would be seen as offensive. I'll rewrite that a bit.
I understand that you didn't do it with a malicious intent however it is difficult to give you pass on that and I ll tell you why.
In 2019 you reviewed a 2080 card and you gave it the "Guru3d recommended" badge. Someone out there might have trusted your opinion and went with it. Then a few months down the line he reads from the same person that if he bought a 2080 - within the timeframe you yourself advised him to - then it "sucks to be him". That immediately insults him and destroys any credibility he has towards you.
Anyway again it is not meant to be a jab against you, but I wanted to advise you of the way it could be perceived and the impact it could have.
p.s my card is an nvidia 610 just in case anyone starts to wonder different things...
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#5693718 Posted on: 07/23/2019 08:36 PM
This card matches my 980 Ti SLI.
Will be upgrading next gen though
This card matches my 980 Ti SLI.
Will be upgrading next gen though
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#5693721 Posted on: 07/23/2019 08:39 PM
I understand that you didn't do it with a malicious intent however it is difficult to give you pass on that and I ll tell you why.
In 2019 you reviewed a 2080 card and you gave it the "Guru3d recommended" badge. Someone out there might have trusted your opinion and went with it. Then a few months down the line he reads from the same person that if he bought a 2080 - within the timeframe you yourself advised him to - then it "sucks to be him". That immediately insults him and destroys any credibility he has towards you.
Anyway again it is not meant to be a jab against you, but I wanted to advise you of the way it could be perceived and the impact it could have.
LOL, would be a sorry state if writing reviews had to be done with the same care a politician has to do when releasing statements. I seriously doubt anyone who is familiar with Hilberts light-hearted writing style would be offended. Having said that, the reviews go out beyond the forum, to a world-wide audience. This imo is more important as far as the wording is concerned. G3D is viewed as a serious and reputable site and here wording can influence perceptions on that front.
I understand that you didn't do it with a malicious intent however it is difficult to give you pass on that and I ll tell you why.
In 2019 you reviewed a 2080 card and you gave it the "Guru3d recommended" badge. Someone out there might have trusted your opinion and went with it. Then a few months down the line he reads from the same person that if he bought a 2080 - within the timeframe you yourself advised him to - then it "sucks to be him". That immediately insults him and destroys any credibility he has towards you.
Anyway again it is not meant to be a jab against you, but I wanted to advise you of the way it could be perceived and the impact it could have.
LOL, would be a sorry state if writing reviews had to be done with the same care a politician has to do when releasing statements. I seriously doubt anyone who is familiar with Hilberts light-hearted writing style would be offended. Having said that, the reviews go out beyond the forum, to a world-wide audience. This imo is more important as far as the wording is concerned. G3D is viewed as a serious and reputable site and here wording can influence perceptions on that front.
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#5693723 Posted on: 07/23/2019 08:41 PM
I understand that you didn't do it with a malicious intent however it is difficult to give you pass on that and I ll tell you why.
In 2019 you reviewed a 2080 card and you gave it the "Guru3d recommended" badge. Someone out there might have trusted your opinion and went with it. Then a few months down the line he reads from the same person that if he bought a 2080 - within the timeframe you yourself advised him to - then it "sucks to be him". That immediately insults him and destroys any credibility he has towards you.
Anyway again it is not meant to be a jab against you, but I wanted to advise you of the way it could be perceived and the impact it could have.
p.s my card is an nvidia 610 just in case anyone starts to wonder different things...
The 2080 was recommended at the time of writing, HH can't predict the future.
I think the "villain" here is Nvidia, which has basically released the third iteration of 1080ti in the span of 2+ years.
I understand that you didn't do it with a malicious intent however it is difficult to give you pass on that and I ll tell you why.
In 2019 you reviewed a 2080 card and you gave it the "Guru3d recommended" badge. Someone out there might have trusted your opinion and went with it. Then a few months down the line he reads from the same person that if he bought a 2080 - within the timeframe you yourself advised him to - then it "sucks to be him". That immediately insults him and destroys any credibility he has towards you.
Anyway again it is not meant to be a jab against you, but I wanted to advise you of the way it could be perceived and the impact it could have.
p.s my card is an nvidia 610 just in case anyone starts to wonder different things...
The 2080 was recommended at the time of writing, HH can't predict the future.
I think the "villain" here is Nvidia, which has basically released the third iteration of 1080ti in the span of 2+ years.
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#5693739 Posted on: 07/23/2019 10:01 PM
I have RTX 2080 and I lol when I read that part and thought it was the best part of the review.Also thanks for all the reviews.
Never realized that would be seen as offensive. I'll rewrite that a bit.
I have RTX 2080 and I lol when I read that part and thought it was the best part of the review.Also thanks for all the reviews.
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#5693744 Posted on: 07/23/2019 10:16 PM
I understand that you didn't do it with a malicious intent however it is difficult to give you pass on that and I ll tell you why.
In 2019 you reviewed a 2080 card and you gave it the "Guru3d recommended" badge. Someone out there might have trusted your opinion and went with it. Then a few months down the line he reads from the same person that if he bought a 2080 - within the timeframe you yourself advised him to - then it "sucks to be him". That immediately insults him and destroys any credibility he has towards you.
Anyway again it is not meant to be a jab against you, but I wanted to advise you of the way it could be perceived and the impact it could have.
p.s my card is an nvidia 610 just in case anyone starts to wonder different things...
BAH, it's not such a big deal, we all make our own choices here with regard to what we buy & when, it's not anyone else's responsibility, and besides no one really knows exactly what NVidia and AMD plan to release & when.
On a practical level I don't think RTX 2080 owners would have buyers remorse, as this product is only 9% better. It's possible that RTX 2060 & RTX 2070 could have a little remorse, given that the super versions of both of those cards are more like 20 percent faster (and cheaper? can't remember). But, then again, buying any of the Turing GPUs was a bit of monetary value nonsense if you already had a Pascal card.
I understand that you didn't do it with a malicious intent however it is difficult to give you pass on that and I ll tell you why.
In 2019 you reviewed a 2080 card and you gave it the "Guru3d recommended" badge. Someone out there might have trusted your opinion and went with it. Then a few months down the line he reads from the same person that if he bought a 2080 - within the timeframe you yourself advised him to - then it "sucks to be him". That immediately insults him and destroys any credibility he has towards you.
Anyway again it is not meant to be a jab against you, but I wanted to advise you of the way it could be perceived and the impact it could have.
p.s my card is an nvidia 610 just in case anyone starts to wonder different things...
BAH, it's not such a big deal, we all make our own choices here with regard to what we buy & when, it's not anyone else's responsibility, and besides no one really knows exactly what NVidia and AMD plan to release & when.
On a practical level I don't think RTX 2080 owners would have buyers remorse, as this product is only 9% better. It's possible that RTX 2060 & RTX 2070 could have a little remorse, given that the super versions of both of those cards are more like 20 percent faster (and cheaper? can't remember). But, then again, buying any of the Turing GPUs was a bit of monetary value nonsense if you already had a Pascal card.
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#5693760 Posted on: 07/23/2019 11:18 PM
lol I wouldnt worry too much about it.. everyday you wait to upgrade there will always be something newer, better, faster? out there regardless of price.
What would "suck" is if you bought a non-Super card for full price before the Super and you're not within the return window... or what sucks more is if you bought a 2070 at $500+ and the 2070 Super being a bigger bang for your buck upgrade comes out at the same price point.
If you bought it when it first came out (like I did) who cares as long as you had fun playing games with it and enjoying yourself making your money's worth.
I'm still happy with my card, still chugging at stock boost speeds lol:
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/7889501
lol I wouldnt worry too much about it.. everyday you wait to upgrade there will always be something newer, better, faster? out there regardless of price.
What would "suck" is if you bought a non-Super card for full price before the Super and you're not within the return window... or what sucks more is if you bought a 2070 at $500+ and the 2070 Super being a bigger bang for your buck upgrade comes out at the same price point.
If you bought it when it first came out (like I did) who cares as long as you had fun playing games with it and enjoying yourself making your money's worth.
I'm still happy with my card, still chugging at stock boost speeds lol:
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/7889501
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#5693786 Posted on: 07/24/2019 03:14 AM
Yeah I really don't see the point in this card, like others have said the 2070 S is where your bang for your buck is at.
Yeah I really don't see the point in this card, like others have said the 2070 S is where your bang for your buck is at.
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#5693788 Posted on: 07/24/2019 03:15 AM
No man, you tell it like it is. Great review.
Son, I am disappoint. I really thought this was going to be closer to the 2080ti and might be worth an upgrade over the 1080ti but not for 8-12 fps at UW1440p., no way. A three year old card and the only real upgrade will cost $1200, what a bummer. If someone is looking for a new card now with an older card this is great news though!
Never realized that would be seen as offensive. I'll rewrite that a bit.
No man, you tell it like it is. Great review.
Son, I am disappoint. I really thought this was going to be closer to the 2080ti and might be worth an upgrade over the 1080ti but not for 8-12 fps at UW1440p., no way. A three year old card and the only real upgrade will cost $1200, what a bummer. If someone is looking for a new card now with an older card this is great news though!
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#5693807 Posted on: 07/24/2019 05:35 AM
4fps at the worst, 10fps at the best hmmmmmmmmm......
4fps at the worst, 10fps at the best hmmmmmmmmm......
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#5693820 Posted on: 07/24/2019 07:12 AM
It's a nice card, in terms of value it crushes the 2080ti at that price range, think there was only a big gap whilst at 4k on some games... that said, it's just a small jump up from the last offerings. Nothing amazing for previous owners of either top end 10XX or 20XX series, which in some ways is fine .... save some money... Guess im curious about what the 3000 series will bring and what the full fat amd card will offer at this stage.
Right now i'm waiting on a card that offers around 70-100% more performance than my 1080ti before i make another jump, the 2080ti is more around 20-30% depending on the game
Son, I am disappoint. I really thought this was going to be closer to the 2080ti and might be worth an upgrade over the 1080ti but not for 8-12 fps at UW1440p., no way. A three year old card and the only real upgrade will cost $1200, what a bummer. If someone is looking for a new card now with an older card this is great news though!
Yeah, and that card for it's price just isn;t worth it for just a small jump, Hopefully the 3080ti or whatever they call it won't be as insanely priced... or least have the performance increase show the price. can't say i'd mind it being 1200-1500, if it gave 80-100% more performance over last years model
It's a nice card, in terms of value it crushes the 2080ti at that price range, think there was only a big gap whilst at 4k on some games... that said, it's just a small jump up from the last offerings. Nothing amazing for previous owners of either top end 10XX or 20XX series, which in some ways is fine .... save some money... Guess im curious about what the 3000 series will bring and what the full fat amd card will offer at this stage.
Right now i'm waiting on a card that offers around 70-100% more performance than my 1080ti before i make another jump, the 2080ti is more around 20-30% depending on the game
Son, I am disappoint. I really thought this was going to be closer to the 2080ti and might be worth an upgrade over the 1080ti but not for 8-12 fps at UW1440p., no way. A three year old card and the only real upgrade will cost $1200, what a bummer. If someone is looking for a new card now with an older card this is great news though!
Yeah, and that card for it's price just isn;t worth it for just a small jump, Hopefully the 3080ti or whatever they call it won't be as insanely priced... or least have the performance increase show the price. can't say i'd mind it being 1200-1500, if it gave 80-100% more performance over last years model
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#5693844 Posted on: 07/24/2019 08:57 AM
Hilbert you mention a few times how 2080S is faster and cheaper but isnt any cheaper at all. It have the same 700$ price tag as original and thats FE, something like asus strix will carry a price premium.
If i bought a 2080 last year i would be meh, 9% faster for a year of waiting. Isnt worth pulling the hair out.
To be honest one should just get 2070S and save 200$.
Moreover, the 2070 Super is also an absolutely poop priced GPU. And yes, again, a 2080 Super gets a Recommended reward... interesting. I think it's absolutely NOT recommended.
Hilbert you mention a few times how 2080S is faster and cheaper but isnt any cheaper at all. It have the same 700$ price tag as original and thats FE, something like asus strix will carry a price premium.
If i bought a 2080 last year i would be meh, 9% faster for a year of waiting. Isnt worth pulling the hair out.
To be honest one should just get 2070S and save 200$.
Moreover, the 2070 Super is also an absolutely poop priced GPU. And yes, again, a 2080 Super gets a Recommended reward... interesting. I think it's absolutely NOT recommended.
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How the allmighty 1080Ti has fallen...Getting beat by even the 5700XT in some.
On the other hand, I do match the stock 2080S fps(1440p) in FC:New Dawn when lightly OC'ed( ~2000-2012/+500 mem).
All in all I see a nice performance from the 2080S tbh but imho the general concensus since last year concerning the turing cards, still holds if I would say.
Bit better now tho I should add, just to give credit where credit's due.
Will quote HH from the conclusion as he nailed it: