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Review: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER and 2070 SUPER
NVIDIA today launches the first two cards in their new Super series. We review the GeForce RTX 2060 Super and 2070 Super and check out if they are actually that, super that is, of course with an aim to bring you a super review. Mind you, they will be announcing a GeForce RTX 2080 Super as well, but that one will actually launch later this month.
Read our review right here.
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#5686434 Posted on: 07/02/2019 05:31 PM
A wise move by Nvidia but still not that appealing, pricing could’ve been better.
Hopefully the 2080 Super will come relatively close to the 2080 TI, now that would be interesting.
A wise move by Nvidia but still not that appealing, pricing could’ve been better.
Hopefully the 2080 Super will come relatively close to the 2080 TI, now that would be interesting.
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#5686436 Posted on: 07/02/2019 05:35 PM
Navi 5700 and 5700XT will offer similiar performance as these super cards. It all comes down to pricing and features.
Somehow whatever nvidia do rtx cards are still not interesting. Gtx turing cards are even worse.
What? The 2060S is faster than the now defunct 2070 by about 2-5% that puts it head to head in DX12 (minus the BF5 outliers) and winning in DX11 against the $449 5700xt. The 2070S will destroy the 5700xt 50th for the same price.
So no AMD will offer lower performance for more or the same money.
Navi, as much as I like where it is headed, looks like it's DOA with it current prices.
Navi 5700 and 5700XT will offer similiar performance as these super cards. It all comes down to pricing and features.
Somehow whatever nvidia do rtx cards are still not interesting. Gtx turing cards are even worse.
What? The 2060S is faster than the now defunct 2070 by about 2-5% that puts it head to head in DX12 (minus the BF5 outliers) and winning in DX11 against the $449 5700xt. The 2070S will destroy the 5700xt 50th for the same price.
So no AMD will offer lower performance for more or the same money.
Navi, as much as I like where it is headed, looks like it's DOA with it current prices.
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#5686437 Posted on: 07/02/2019 05:36 PM
Kinda weird how they seem to be cannibalizing their own sales. The 2070 Super is pretty damn good compared to the 2080.
If they had a GTX 1770 (or whatever it'd be called) that was basically the 2070 Super without RTX for a $100 price drop, I'd be very enticed to get that.
What sales?
In the details shared by NVIDIA, the market to market revenue chart shows that Gaming was able to make $954 million in Q4 FY19 compared to $1764 million in the previous quarter. Not only does that make it a 46% decline from the previous quarter, but looking at Year-To-Year results, NVIDIA also saw a 45% decline.
They are loosing sales to their ridiculous pricing scheme. And will continue to loose them (imho) until something mainstream like 2060 gets back to ~250$ range instead of trying to be the 400$ part. No one cares for ray tracing, especially on card like 2060 that can't even do it properly.
PS. We as customers SHOULD NOT CARE about how much money nVidia (or anyone else for that matter) invested into the tech. That's their problem.
Kinda weird how they seem to be cannibalizing their own sales. The 2070 Super is pretty damn good compared to the 2080.
If they had a GTX 1770 (or whatever it'd be called) that was basically the 2070 Super without RTX for a $100 price drop, I'd be very enticed to get that.
What sales?
NVIDIA Reports 45% Revenue Drop in Gaming Sales, Cites Lower Than Expected Sales of GeForce RTX 2080 and GeForce RTX 2070 Graphics Cards
In the details shared by NVIDIA, the market to market revenue chart shows that Gaming was able to make $954 million in Q4 FY19 compared to $1764 million in the previous quarter. Not only does that make it a 46% decline from the previous quarter, but looking at Year-To-Year results, NVIDIA also saw a 45% decline.
They are loosing sales to their ridiculous pricing scheme. And will continue to loose them (imho) until something mainstream like 2060 gets back to ~250$ range instead of trying to be the 400$ part. No one cares for ray tracing, especially on card like 2060 that can't even do it properly.
PS. We as customers SHOULD NOT CARE about how much money nVidia (or anyone else for that matter) invested into the tech. That's their problem.
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#5686442 Posted on: 07/02/2019 05:48 PM
If only the 2070's was like 50-70$ less, they'd be in the right spot imo. I know they probably have have to charge this price due to RD/production cost of the (currently) rather fluff Tensor/RT cores, which i think they should have kept as a premium choice only aka. on the 2080+ cards until it matured and becomes mainstream.
As it is, i'll likely (praying to the AMD gods) be going with 5700xt/5800 depending on the price/performance it settles at.
And then a question to those that are tech-savvy: the TDP... what would happen to the 'normal' 2070 if it was allowed +40 watt ?. I assume the architecture of the 2 cards are similar, or is it the extra transistors that calls for that extra TDP (maybe a silly question, NOT that technical minded... )
If only the 2070's was like 50-70$ less, they'd be in the right spot imo. I know they probably have have to charge this price due to RD/production cost of the (currently) rather fluff Tensor/RT cores, which i think they should have kept as a premium choice only aka. on the 2080+ cards until it matured and becomes mainstream.
As it is, i'll likely (praying to the AMD gods) be going with 5700xt/5800 depending on the price/performance it settles at.
And then a question to those that are tech-savvy: the TDP... what would happen to the 'normal' 2070 if it was allowed +40 watt ?. I assume the architecture of the 2 cards are similar, or is it the extra transistors that calls for that extra TDP (maybe a silly question, NOT that technical minded... )
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2070S looks a bit better now, same price/aka improved price/performance which was by far the biggest issue with that card. Kinda ruined the 2060 with the S variant tho, lower price performance for their entry level card doesn't seem like a wise choice.