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#5724785 Posted on: 10/28/2019 10:03 AM
@angelgraves13
glad that the planet wide sales dont care if you think dlss is or isn't dead.
you how many said that about gsync, which required more expensive monis (and add-on board) to work?
@ all
i dont agree with aura often, but he is right about products/pricing etc.
buy or dont buy, and with large enough numbers it will have an impact.
(amd - intel anyone?)
that said, with the Nv 5xx series, i stopped being the "i-always-buy-the-2nd-biggest-chip" moron,
and decided to buy a card that fits my perf needs, and if my budget allows something better, so be it.
i had planned to swap my 1080 for a friends ti, as i saw the bigger vram (vs perf increase of the 20xx chips) more important for "ultra" settings/4K res.
but still havent gotten a 4K screen yet and i'm able to sell my card for a decent price right now, and decided i rather get a LC 20xx card (so i can drop case fans below audible).
seeing i can get a gpu that is level/faster than a 1080ti while costing way less (for air cooled),
the 20(60)/70S are great performers for the price.
@angelgraves13
glad that the planet wide sales dont care if you think dlss is or isn't dead.
you how many said that about gsync, which required more expensive monis (and add-on board) to work?
@ all
i dont agree with aura often, but he is right about products/pricing etc.
buy or dont buy, and with large enough numbers it will have an impact.
(amd - intel anyone?)
that said, with the Nv 5xx series, i stopped being the "i-always-buy-the-2nd-biggest-chip" moron,
and decided to buy a card that fits my perf needs, and if my budget allows something better, so be it.
i had planned to swap my 1080 for a friends ti, as i saw the bigger vram (vs perf increase of the 20xx chips) more important for "ultra" settings/4K res.
but still havent gotten a 4K screen yet and i'm able to sell my card for a decent price right now, and decided i rather get a LC 20xx card (so i can drop case fans below audible).
seeing i can get a gpu that is level/faster than a 1080ti while costing way less (for air cooled),
the 20(60)/70S are great performers for the price.
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#5724950 Posted on: 10/28/2019 05:52 PM
Hum same chip just renamed is mostly what i would call a rebrand. I would expect a "refresh" to add to the same chip. Here's the definition of the word refresh :
re·fresh
verb
give new strength or energy to; reinvigorate.
You don't refresh a web page expecting the same result. You refresh it to have an updated version of it. You don't refresh your closet and put the same clothes in it and call it a day. It would be called a clean up.
I would expect a refresh to be the same chip with higher clock and/or unlocked shaders (and maybe more ram).
A refresh is the same chip renamed... 980 ti and 1080 ti are much bigger chips than their non-ti counterparts, and has absolutely nothing to do with a refresh...
Hum same chip just renamed is mostly what i would call a rebrand. I would expect a "refresh" to add to the same chip. Here's the definition of the word refresh :
re·fresh
verb
give new strength or energy to; reinvigorate.
You don't refresh a web page expecting the same result. You refresh it to have an updated version of it. You don't refresh your closet and put the same clothes in it and call it a day. It would be called a clean up.
I would expect a refresh to be the same chip with higher clock and/or unlocked shaders (and maybe more ram).
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#5724961 Posted on: 10/28/2019 06:21 PM
@angelgraves13
i see it the same way (regarding IQ), but that doesnt mean thats the case for everyone on this planet.
same reason ppl are driving +2M $ bugattis, while (most) others will drive a car for 100 times less, but that doesnt mean we shouldn't have them, or that no one will buy stuff "not really needed".
@angelgraves13
i see it the same way (regarding IQ), but that doesnt mean thats the case for everyone on this planet.
same reason ppl are driving +2M $ bugattis, while (most) others will drive a car for 100 times less, but that doesnt mean we shouldn't have them, or that no one will buy stuff "not really needed".
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#5724964 Posted on: 10/28/2019 06:32 PM
Hum same chip just renamed is mostly what i would call a rebrand. I would expect a "refresh" to add to the same chip. Here's the definition of the word refresh :
re·fresh
verb
give new strength or energy to; reinvigorate.
You don't refresh a web page expecting the same result. You refresh it to have an updated version of it. You don't refresh your closet and put the same clothes in it and call it a day. It would be called a clean up.
I would expect a refresh to be the same chip with higher clock and/or unlocked shaders (and maybe more ram).
You can argue semantics all you want.
Fact of the matter is that a refresh with higher clocks, but otherwise identical chip, or a "rebrand" with identical clocks is the same thing... they will both clock to exactly the same point in msi afterburner, making any pre OC clock differences mean absolute jack sh1t.
680 that got refreshed/rebranded to 770 is a perfect example of this.
Hum same chip just renamed is mostly what i would call a rebrand. I would expect a "refresh" to add to the same chip. Here's the definition of the word refresh :
re·fresh
verb
give new strength or energy to; reinvigorate.
You don't refresh a web page expecting the same result. You refresh it to have an updated version of it. You don't refresh your closet and put the same clothes in it and call it a day. It would be called a clean up.
I would expect a refresh to be the same chip with higher clock and/or unlocked shaders (and maybe more ram).
You can argue semantics all you want.
Fact of the matter is that a refresh with higher clocks, but otherwise identical chip, or a "rebrand" with identical clocks is the same thing... they will both clock to exactly the same point in msi afterburner, making any pre OC clock differences mean absolute jack sh1t.
680 that got refreshed/rebranded to 770 is a perfect example of this.
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certain members here try and diagnose every single word you said yet only quote something that they can disagree with.....arrogant.
Not good for a new member to experience....always try and be helpful and nice.